--- Log opened Tue Mar 05 00:00:18 2024 08:26 <@Mirage> Sam Rockwell ALWAYS has to work in dancing somewhere in his movies.. 08:29 <@Dagmar> oooo... You didn't _know_ about that mess yet 08:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah, you can't really trust any "teensy wifi antenna connectors" to be any given thing 08:31 <@Dagmar> ...although most are RP SMA when it comes to cell phones and laptops, there's two other sizes I've seen at that "scale" 08:31 < aestetix> is inflation still a big problem in the US? 08:31 < aestetix> (it is in germany, very much) 08:31 <@Dagmar> Is fire still hot in Germany? 08:31 < aestetix> ok so yes it is a problem in the US 08:31 <@Dagmar> Most of our inflation at the moment is mainly caused by corporate greed 08:32 < aestetix> sounds about right 08:35 <@Mirage> The whole thing isn't really making any sense to me, though. Stock market and such is solid but "the economy is bad", unemployment is low, and we're still dealing with inflation/shrinkflation. Why?! All I can say is that the corp types are taking full advantage of the GOP rhetoric and cashing in. 08:36 <@Mirage> So yeah, what Dag said while I wasn't paying attention 08:37 <@Mirage> Watching Argylle... 08:38 <@Mirage> Of course the GOP couldn't give a shit less because it just feeds their fire and puts more $$ in the pockets of the ones who fill their coffers 08:39 < aestetix> well 08:39 <@Dagmar> Mainly the GOP is talking shit about the economy to make Biden look bad and try and scare people into voting for them 08:39 < aestetix> I think Biden is trying to pretend the economy is good so he can get re-elected 08:39 < aestetix> but everyone who is not a rich asshole sees through that 08:39 <@Dagmar> No, the economy is actually doing fairly well 08:40 < aestetix> interesting, then why do I keep seeing reports of layoffs? 08:40 <@Dagmar> It's just that whether or not the economy is doing well as a whole isn't in any way affected by how over half the country can't actually afford rent and is slowly draining their savings 08:40 < aestetix> ahhh ok 08:41 < aestetix> so the issue is not "the economy" but the fact that it doesn't really reflect what you just said 08:41 <@Dagmar> This business of all the rental companies raising rates by X every year where X is substantially higher than people's incomes increase for almost thirty years has now become a major problem 08:41 < aestetix> yep 08:42 <@Dagmar> "The economy" is producing goods and services 08:43 < aestetix> which nobody can afford to buy 08:43 < aestetix> like ok how about this one 08:43 < aestetix> what the fuck did apple think putting out a VR headset for $3500 08:43 < aestetix> I don't know anyone who can afford that 08:43 <@Dagmar> What the fuck do they ever think pricing a new gadget at 2-3x everyone else? 08:44 <@Dagmar> "Dipshits will pay it" 08:44 < aestetix> Even the dipshits were complaining about the price 08:44 <@Dagmar> Unfortunately they're making the case for literally everyone to buy a Meta 3 instead 08:45 < aestetix> and yeah, I have heard an argument that "companies are raising wages to reflect inflation" and my response is bullshit 08:46 < aestetix> I think companies are working to get employees as cheaply as they can 08:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah another thing that's not helping is people like Fox are still spinning details about everything into a bizarro-world narrative as fast as they can so there's always "controversy" about this shit that's essentially basic math 08:50 <@Dagmar> ...which the GOP is capitalizing on to use as a smokescreen to do more dumb shit 08:50 < aestetix> oh man 08:50 < aestetix> I used to read fox news just to get their view 08:50 < aestetix> but it's really hard to read it without having a very negative emotional reaction 08:51 < aestetix> they deliberately run stories and headlines that piss people off 08:51 <@Dagmar> That's because they're completely embracing "lying for our corporate masters" 08:51 <@Mirage> I still do. Of course I've never been the 'trust the media' type. I try to get my news from as many sources as possible and then make my own opinion. 08:51 <@Dagmar> I keep having to remind Audra that this whole Roe vs Wade rollback has not one damn thing to do with reproductive rights 08:51 <@Dagmar> It's entirely and 100% performative GOP bullshit 08:52 < aestetix> Mirage: yeah, but I'm used to europe, which is way less sensationalized. Fox News is.... it's like this blaring siren you can't turn off 08:52 <@Dagmar> The entire goal is to _look_ like they believe they're doing something their voters want, while simultaneously making everyone get mad at _each other_ about it 08:52 <@Dagmar> You've seen me carp about this pattern before 08:53 <@Mirage> I visited a friend over the weekend and his parents had NewsMax on. It was agonizing.. 08:53 < aestetix> I imagine similar is true for CNN, but I can't read it anymore 08:53 < aestetix> I guess if I routed by browser through a proxy.... 08:54 <@Dagmar> Everyone stays busy yelling at each other about fetsuses, and the government rolls out a school voucher program with no provision to make sure the schools getting the money are actually schools at all 08:54 <@Mirage> If only there was some free VPN service or something you could use.. 08:55 <@Dagmar> Everyone stays busy yelling at each other about IVF, and the government steamrolls in some zoning changes allowing single person homes to be torn down and replaced with pairs of shotgun homes which will rent for the same price, while claiming they're making housing more affordable 08:55 <@Dagmar> Both of those things are going on in TN right the fuck now 08:57 <@Dagmar> I've seen a few people trying to wave it all away saying "Well, the government has always been doing this" and those people are fucking idiots 08:57 <@Dagmar> There has been a distinct change in the last 8 years 08:57 <@Dagmar> Growing up shit was _never_ this brazen 08:58 <@Dagmar> Corrupt politicians did not generally work together except by accident 08:58 <@Dagmar> Occasionally there would be a party-oriented goal they'd all get together on and try to bully the other out of any say about 08:59 <@Dagmar> This current shit is organized and bereft of subtlety or morality 08:59 <@Dagmar> What the GOP are claiming to represent is about 5% of the population 08:59 <@Dagmar> ...and mainly, they're only representing an entirely different 1% 09:00 <@Dagmar> That's one of the ways you can tell it's performative bullshit. There's no way they're so stupid they think more than a sliver of the population wants this kind of birth control or anti-abortion shit 09:00 <@Dagmar> None. 09:03 <@Dagmar> Audra complains that they're stupid because they won't listen to reason 09:03 <@Dagmar> I have to keep reminding her that their decision-making wasn't based on reason. It's a position that was chosen to keep people distracted. 09:05 <@Dagmar> You can't use logic and reason to sway them because they didn't use logic and reason to _decide_ to do these things. Some think tank came up with them as hot button interests that would cause the most arguing so people wouldn't have time to focus on that the GOP are no longer serving anyone's interests but their own 09:06 <@Dagmar> Folks need to stop engaging with that and go ahead and burn some politicians to death 09:09 <@Dagmar> Those guys have spent the better part of hte last two decades changing the rules of the system to where they can keep their jobs no matter what as long as they can avoid getting caught on camera sodomizing baby, and now they're making use of that 09:10 <@Dagmar> Expect riots this fall 09:20 <@Mirage> Given how the trailers made it appear vs how it actually is, I can see why Argylle didn't do as well as expected in theatres 09:21 < Evilpig> I saw that come in this morning but havne't looked at i tyet 09:21 <@Dagmar> I don't care how it "does" in theatres 09:21 <@Dagmar> I wanna watch it 09:21 <@Dagmar> That's what counts 09:22 <@Mirage> Yeah. Do yourself a favor and forget expectations of the plot line, etc when you start watching it 09:22 <@Dagmar> ...and it doesn't really matter if a movie does well or not, because various news agencies are going to *say* it did well or not depending on their whim 09:31 < Evilpig> weird. i've been logged out of facebook and it says my password is wrong 09:31 <@Dagmar> uh oh 09:32 < Evilpig> and more weird, when I went to update the password it said "something went wrong" 09:32 < Evilpig> this feels like my account has been banned or somethign 09:32 <@Mirage> I was on a bit ago and now has me logged out. 09:33 < Evilpig> okay so it's not just me 09:33 < Evilpig> facebook outage. lol 09:33 < Evilpig> oh yeah 09:33 < Evilpig> https://downdetector.com/ 09:33 < PigBot> 403