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06:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0 h0 h0ez!
06:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning!
06:30  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:55 < aestetix> https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/12/07/nashville-woman-suing-local-barbeque-restaurant-because-the-smell-of-grilling-smoked-meat-is-a-nuisance/
06:55 < PigBot> Nashville Woman Suing Local Barbeque Restaurant Because The Smell Of Grilling & Smoked Meat Is A “Nuisance” | Whiskey Riff (at www.whiskeyriff.com) https://tinyurl.com/ym68zhus
06:57 <@Dolemite> Well, people can sue for pretty much any reason.  Doesn't give it merit.
07:06 < aestetix> Is there any penalty for people who keep filing useless lawsuits?
07:10 <@Dolemite> The court can penalize someone that abuses the system...  but only after they have abused the system with meritless lawsuits
07:10 <@Dolemite> and it's completely the court's discretion
07:11 <@Dolemite> so there's no hard number of stupid lawsuits
07:54 < Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hk1vqjt558uhav2ss059t/Screenshot-2023-12-11-at-7.42.33-AM.png?rlkey=k218f7rsbw6jttccwd0wz0fbp&dl=0
07:54 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screenshot 2023-12-11 at 7.42.33 AM.png - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) https://tinyurl.com/ylarxwsb
07:54 < Evilpig> is this is polite response or can it be construed in any way that it isn't?
07:55 < Evilpig> just had a blow out with ash that her sister is causing shit between ash and their dad that this trip we were planning on taking down there in the spring we won't see her sister, sabrina's mom, because I don't like her
07:56 < Evilpig> and this was supposedly the communication between the kid and her mom that set it off 
07:56 <@Dolemite> That seems polite enough
07:57 <@Dolemite> So is planning for as far out as Spring actually happening?
07:57 < Evilpig> sabrina came to me to tell me that her mom kept sending her pictures of animals and was making her uncomfortable about going over there
07:57 < Evilpig> fuck if I know.  I stopped planning when she started this other shit
07:58 < Evilpig> I found a nice airbnb for 1/3 the cost of the normal published rates at the place we were going to book anyway and didn't book it
07:58 < Evilpig> someone has a condo at the timeshare place and renting it on air bnb vs the timeshare rental people themselves.  seemed like the best situation for us. stay where we wanted for 1/3 the cost
07:59 <@Dolemite> yeah as long as their BS fees don't add up to the same price
07:59 <@Dolemite> I've seen some AirBnBs where the cleaning fee was more than the nightly fee
07:59 < nihil-> that's how they get ya
07:59 <@Dolemite> plus they expect you to clean it before checking out
07:59 <@Dolemite> Which makes you wonder...  WTF is the cleaning fee for?
08:00 < Evilpig> I looked at the fees and even after the fees it was way chepaer.  even with the straight timeshare rental they expect you to put the sheets in the washer
08:00 < nihil-> to make you feel like there is someone that actually cleans it properly even though it was just the last person that cleaned it
08:04 <@Dolemite> nihil-: likely
08:09 <@Dagmar> The cleaning fee is to make sure they don't have to hire someone to clean, or to clean themselves, and the upside it makes their listing show up higher in the list
08:10 <@Dagmar> ...and it's a shit practice when it's an outrageous amount
08:21 <@Dagmar> It's fairly absurd when you consider that most hotels just add cleaning into the price without doubling their costs
10:23 < aestetix> did any of you play talos principle 2?
10:52 < Evilpig> nope
13:31 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure if I have the patience to deal with it.
13:32 <@Dagmar> Granted, I have a wildly different approach to another class of "complex" game, namely settlement builders
13:33 <@Dagmar> I see streamers micromanaging everything, whereas I just occasionally pause them, tweak their job priorities and then set the game to run at maximum speed again until something that matters happens.
13:34 <@Dagmar> If the complexity involves remembering a dozen things and then running all over the place to do that dozen things in an exacting order, I'm bored.
13:34 <@Dagmar> That's too much like work.
13:41 <@Dagmar> aestetix: _In theory_ what one might pull from a Debian 12 repo today should have 6.1.0-15 which has all the necessary backports from 6.1.66 and should _not_ be impacted by the ext4 issue
13:41 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I just watched it pull that into a jump host, so... we'll see
13:41 < Evilpig> so Dagmar you aren't gonna try your hand at Factorio?
13:41 <@Dagmar> Factorio I've done, and I'll probably go back to it eventually
13:42 <@Dagmar> THe only thing that stopped me before was that the somewhat-obligatory combat was painful
13:42 < Evilpig> it gets easier
13:42 < Evilpig> once you get the exosuit upgrades and selfcontained lasers
13:43 < Evilpig> when I get some free time I want to get back to playing with the train track switching controls more
13:43 <@Dagmar> I don't find it or Dyson Sphere Project (which I've spent a lot of time) as tedious because all those tasks can be organized into sub-tasks which make sense, so you get that nice little dopamine hit to keep you from being bored at a much steadier pace
13:44 <@Dagmar> ...and DSP has apparently gotten considerably more complex since I last played with it.
13:44 <@Dagmar> LIke, I set it aside before they added competing robotic factions to get underfoot
13:45 <@Dagmar> Right now i'm in the middle of stomping Stranded Alien Dawn into submission.
13:45 < Evilpig> i'm in the middle of patching some ldap servers. 
13:46 <@Dagmar> ah goddamnit
13:47 <@Dagmar> I needed to add more disk space to my jump host, so I shut it down
13:47 <@Dagmar> Guess which box I typically use virt-manager from
13:47 < Evilpig>  /nelson haha
13:47 <@Dagmar> At least I think I remember which vmhost it's on
13:51 <@Dagmar> Hah.  Started to freak out a bit because I forgot to add --all to virsh list
13:53 <@Dagmar> Oh thank goodness it's not going to argue with me about the increase in disk size since it was fully powered off
13:55 <@Dagmar> Goddamnit debian did the dumb thing beause I didn't manhandle it at installation time
13:55 <@Dagmar> It put the LVM PV inside a bloody extended partition
13:57 <@Dagmar> Crossing fingers and rebooting
14:00 <@Dagmar> Okay.  I didn't know if Debian followed the same lassez-faire approach towards LVM configurations that I do, or if they'd decided to put stuff into a config file like lunatics
14:00 <@Dagmar> Thankfully it didn't get a bit excited because the PV moved from /dev/vda5 to /dev/vda2
14:01 < Evilpig> damnit!  it's already 2?!  where's the day gone
14:01 <@Dagmar> I know where it went
14:02 <@Dolemite> It's already 3
14:02 <@Dagmar> I spent half of it arguing about a terrible process based on people kicking files around via sftp which desperately needs to stop being managed like that
14:03 <@Dagmar> Every problem we've had with it stems from us _not_ just immediately reassembling these data dumps into a contiguous timeline the very moment we first see them, storing them in a database, and then generating new data files for the people that need them *from* the data in that database
14:03 <@Dagmar> Since the accountants will invariably become involved and want to immediately start talking about change management shit, I may just set it all up first and then say "Look.  Here it is.  It's done."
14:04 <@Dagmar> They'll do this _while_ I'm still working out how to make it all work in the first place3
14:04 <@Dagmar> I'm just not doing change management procedures for the 0.9beta version fo something when it's involving three different languages and I'm the only person who is any good at any of them
14:04 <@Dagmar> Noooooo.
15:56 <@Mirage> Watching the CO election trial..  The guy arguing against Trump is making pretty weak arguments and the guy for Trump is just another wack job that wants to dismiss Jan 6th and being blown out of proportion
16:11 <@Dagmar> It's cute that they think ignoring that the defendants were very much caught red handed AF shoudlnt' be a problem
16:12 <@Dagmar> Not too many criminals sign notarized statements and take photo ops
16:12 <@Dagmar> I can't imagine why
18:13 <@Mirage> Anyone wanna place bets on how the Supreme Court votes on the Trump prosecution question?
18:25 <@newpipecity> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8NYgR_TPqc
18:25 < PigBot> Watch live: SpaceX Falcon Heavy to launch secretive X-37B military spaceplane - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/ylxymtqu
19:30 -!- newpipecity is now known as eryc
20:49 <@eryc> who has a quarter million to spend on an adventure
20:50 <@eryc> i'm talking fdic maxed
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