--- Log opened Tue Oct 03 00:00:42 2023
06:15 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:26 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Any updates on Bumper-gate?
06:27 < Evilpig> I was just looking for email on that, haven't heard shit
06:27 < Evilpig> gotta email this fiverr dude back about a logo for my dad's new business idea too
06:32 < Evilpig> yeah.  he said give them one business day to evaluate and that was thursday afternoon. so I should have heard something yesterday
06:33 < Evilpig> i've emailed him asking for a status update
06:36 <@Dolemite> These ethics refresher training videos are absolutely riveting
06:37 < Evilpig> lol
06:37 < Evilpig> I have some stuff in there due in december I think.
06:41 < Evilpig> I get the pleasure of going to a HS choir performance this evening and if the other students have done as much work at home as sabrina has it should be an experience
06:41 <@Dolemite> lol
06:42 < Evilpig> I repeatedly told my parents they do not have to come down for this but they have insisted to show support for sabrina.  oye
06:44 < Evilpig> She's also gone and signed up for "honor choir" whatever the hell that is.  when I picked her up the other day she informed me that she got her music for that and I asked when she is supposed to be meeting for practice since she never does it at home.  she very smugly asked me how she was supposed to practice at home if she didn't have the music
07:02 <@Dolemite> well if it's honors maybe she'll get a GPA booster for being in it
07:25 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: You may want to add this to Sonarr.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsZVmVPn4E
07:26 < PigBot> Scavengers Reign | Official Teaser | Max - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/ys3gzcug
07:26 <@Mirage> Our honors/ap classes were worth an extra .5 on the scale.   Of course they switched from 4pt to 12pt my Sr year, which was just weird
07:33 <@Dolemite> OMG, I can't believe this one.  https://www.cnn.com/travel/typhoon-lagoon-disney-sued-over-injuries-wedgie-water-slide/index.html
07:33 < PigBot> Disney sued over ‘severe’ injuries allegedly caused by ‘wedgie’ from water slide | CNN (at www.cnn.com) https://tinyurl.com/yqe9vh6k
07:33 <@Dolemite> “Specifically, when a rider of The Slide reached the bottom of the ride and traveled into the pool of water designed to stop further travel, the force of the water can push loose garments into a person’s anatomy - an event known as a ‘wedgie,’” the suit says. “Because of a woman’s anatomy, the risk of a painful ‘wedgie’ is more common and more serious than it is for a man.”
07:33 <@opticron> yeah, but from what I read it was lacerations and exposed bowel
07:34 <@opticron> which is a tad more extreme than "wedgie"
07:34 <@Dolemite> That certainly would be
07:43 < Evilpig> I liked the headline best though, because if she wins that's enough to send a slew of people trying to repeat for trauma endured in childhood and go after the public education system for allowing it to happen
07:44 < Evilpig> honor choir is extra curricular like bowling
07:44 < Evilpig> not a class
07:45 < Evilpig> It should have a different name like "district choir"  because it's made up of students from multiple schools in the district
07:47 < Evilpig> Dolemite: i've added that.  I also added this last night because it looks like it could be amusing.  https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/228308-fright-krewe
07:47 < PigBot> Fright Krewe (TV Series 2023- ) — The Movie Database (TMDB) (at www.themoviedb.org) https://tinyurl.com/ys2e25au
07:48 <@Dolemite> Wannabe Mystery Inc!
07:48 < Evilpig> but with actual ghosts
07:49 < Evilpig> not creepy mr kidtoucher in a mask
08:05 < Evilpig> "I had to resend the comparable you sent over to me yesterday. There should be an update today.
08:05 < Evilpig> "
08:05 < Evilpig> I just checked and all three of the links I sent them are still listed today. unlike the ones they gave me as comparable.  turds
08:28 <@Dagmar> Any idea why the links they sent no longer work?>
08:29 < Evilpig> could hav ebeen sold?  they listed their source as dealer advertisement.  and that could have been one they scanned from a month earlier
08:29 < Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lfu0lb7cn3fwix01oylzn/Market-Valuation-Report.pdf?rlkey=npe8bdfbujxpp2cuo0z6m8v10&dl=0
08:29 < PigBot> Dropbox - Market Valuation Report.pdf - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) https://tinyurl.com/29pkobje
08:30 < Evilpig> page 8 of that
08:32 <@Dagmar> Could be they already sold.  Could also be they were just fake listings to trick people into showing up
08:32 < Evilpig> just noticed they had a fourth listed.  https://www.hondaofcleveland.com/used-vehicles/?q=ranger&_paymentType=our_price
08:32 < PigBot> 403 <!DOCTYPE html>
08:32 < Evilpig> it's also not available
08:32 < Evilpig> but they have that one listed as $6k which is in line with what I sent them as the actual cost to replace right now
08:33 < Evilpig> from the description that woul dhave been a 6cyl automatic too though
08:40  * Dagmar wants to stab
08:41 <@Dagmar> Someone complaining about their efax users getting their efaxes marked as spam, but they can't seem to tell us where the fucking mails are originating
08:41 <@Dagmar> Get me details or GTFO
08:41 < Evilpig> can't send you a header either?
08:41 <@Dagmar> I'll find out later today once they finally send me one instead of just complaining about it
08:44 <@Dagmar> ...and now we've got motherfuckers speculating as to reasons why it could be getting flagged as spam, without knowing a goddamn thing for sure about where the mail is being sent from
08:44 <@Dagmar> *mutes the teams call for awhile*
08:45 <@Dagmar> I think I'm justifiably grumpy about this considering how much time I've spent carefully deploying DKIM and SPF shit
08:45 < Evilpig> I had a ticket in with m$ about all my tautulli emails getting rejected by gmail because it was flagged as coming from a spam server which was office 365
08:45 < Evilpig> I had dkim/spf in place and no matter what I did it got flagged as spam everytime at the gateway
08:46 < Evilpig> they told me it was a gmail problem and nothing they could do.  so I eventually set up a gmail account, set that account up to send as my tautulli user plex@wilpig.com or whatever I used for that and then have it send to gmail people via that
08:46 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm about tired of complaints because some goddamn org or other I've never heard of is getting their mails that *they are spoofing our goddamn domain on* flagged as spam becuase they're not listed in our _soft-fail_ SPF
08:46 < Evilpig> giant pain in the ass
08:46 <@Dagmar> I'm sorely tempted to start just being a dick to this particular class of dumbassery
08:47 <@Dagmar> DKIM probably shoudln't be used to decide if a mail is spam or not
08:48 <@Dagmar> SPF on the other hand, what's pissing me off is that if I set this shit as hard fail then *everyone's* mail servers would be rejecting their crap
08:48 <@Dagmar> ...and they're coming to us like we should delete our SPF record and that can happen after I am no longer working for NHC
08:49 <@Dagmar> I'm just waiting for someone important to get burned by a spoofed mail, and then I'm going to bring up the point of "If we were actually using hard-fail, this would not have been possible"
08:50 <@Dagmar> The outside orgs that are the reason we're not using hard-fail are all the biggest class of fuckwits, too
08:50 <@Dagmar> SPF has been around long enough that they should have altered their infrastructure by now
08:51 <@Dolemite> Just set a separate SPF policy for fuckwits.nhc.com and make them send out as @fuckwits.nhc.com.  :)
08:51 <@Dagmar> That's what I'd like to do _but they're too dumb to change their systems_
08:51 <@Dagmar> "But we have to send using the email address of the user"
08:52 <@Dagmar> These are the kinds of people Ben doesn't generally want me in touch with because I am fairly cold-hearted about things like someone who acts like fixing their broken architecture is simply impossible
08:53 <@Dagmar> Hell I have nagios mails going out as noreply at nagios.domain.com now and I'm about to flip the SPF record for that over to hard fail
08:53 <@Dolemite> Setup a raspberry pi relay server for them to put on premise and have it do cert based auth to your main outbound :)
08:54 <@Dagmar> That's kind of tempting just because they would never be able to figure out how to do that, but it would just become my problem to teach them
08:55 <@Dagmar> We finally got our domains out of Netsol by the way
08:56 <@Dagmar> I'm still just shocked that for having existed as long as they have, their transfer procedure are an utter shitshow
08:56 <@Dagmar> ...and clearly their support staff are _well trained_ to never admit that this is some purest fuckery on their part
08:56 <@Dagmar> You can't set up zone records in advance, and any zone records you add could take 12-24 hours to propagate
08:57 <@Dagmar> ...so if you transfer a domain _to_ netsol, expect some fuckin' downtime
08:57 <@Dagmar> Oh and their GTLD server hooks are _not synchronized_
08:57 < Evilpig> I used to like netsol, but after the heartburn they caused with me vandy and signing a domain.  they're dead to me
08:58 <@Dagmar> For a period of about four hours I was getting different results back from a dig that started with the dot
08:58 <@Mirage> Found a wonderfully terrible show on Amazon.. "Todd and the Book of Pure Evil"
08:59 <@Dagmar> I would agree that it's halfway decent, despite sounding like something some untalented hack living out of their car in LA wrote
09:00 < Evilpig> god damn google.  I put in a calendar reminder for tomorrow to pre-order ash the new pixel and it just popped up
09:01 < Evilpig> "On the same day at 9am"
09:02 <@Dagmar> I still like my PPro 6 on Fi
09:02 < Evilpig> me too, but I have to replace the case
09:03 < Evilpig> she's still on the Pixel 4 though and it ends updates this month so it's time to upgrade
09:03 <@Dagmar> Ah
09:03 < Evilpig> theyre saying the 8 is going to have 7 years of updates.  but it's unclear if that is 5 years of os and 2 years of security or just straight 7 years of updates
09:03 <@Dagmar> Yeah about the only thing you could do there is flip it over to a CM firmware, and I have never been able to get a straight answer from anyone about whether or not it works with Fi
09:04 <@Dagmar> It _better_ be 7 years of security updates
09:04 <@Dagmar> I'm still fairly unimpressed that they stopped doing security updates on the Pixel 3
09:04 <@Mirage> I'm still just fine w/ my Pixel 3a
09:05 < Evilpig> Mirage: I REALLY like the camera on the 6pro.  it's been very nice
09:06 <@Dagmar> I do kinda hope they resume putting the fingerprint sensor on the back tho
09:06 <@Dagmar> There is literally nothing convenient about having it under the damn screen
09:07 <@Dolemite> +++
09:07 < Evilpig> no shit there
09:07 < Evilpig> that was the BEST thing
09:07 < Evilpig> it's still there on sabrina's 5
09:07 <@Dagmar> It was pretty much automatically unlocked when the authorized user picked it up
09:09 < Evilpig> Dolemite is sitting here right now chuckling at my work plight
09:12 <@opticron> I think I'd prefer the power button fingerprint reader to the in-screen one
09:12 <@opticron> does *anything* modern offer a rear FP reader?
09:13 <@Dolemite> Other than the camera being better on my Pixel 6 Pro, my LG phones were definitely the best quality mades ones I'd ever had
09:13 <@Dagmar> The Pixel 3 is still "modern"
09:13 <@Dolemite> And the LG's had the rear fingerprint reader
09:13 <@Dolemite> The freebie 5G phone from T-Mobile - the Revvl 5G - has a rear fingerprint reader
09:14 <@Dolemite> That's what we saddled the kids with.   Oh such torture that they only get such a basic phone.
09:14 <@opticron> that's disappointing that's it's moved to the cheapo stuff but not on higher end
09:14 <@opticron> I'm currently on a Sony Xperia 5 IV and it's a piece of shit
09:14 < Evilpig> didn't they put the fingerprint reader on the back of the 7a ?  it was definitely there on the 6a
09:15 <@opticron> I thought 7a moved to front
09:15 <@Dagmar> It seems like they decided that putting it under the screen was fancy enough they should try and put it in everything and use it as a selling point whether it's useful or not
09:15 < Evilpig> the 7 definitely did.  
09:15 <@opticron> 6a also had front reader
09:16 <@opticron> it also cuts down on external holes they have to waterproof
09:16 < Evilpig> I really miss that back reader.
09:17 <@Dagmar> Waterproofing isn't that damn hard
09:17 <@Dolemite> The back readers simply work better
09:17 <@opticron> no, but they're getting lazy
09:17 <@opticron> ever since apple decided to get brave and start removing ports
09:17 <@Dagmar> If your phone is subject to water at high pressure for extended periods of time, you have a lifestyle problem
09:18 <@opticron> lol, a quick dip in the pool killed my fitbit charge 5 and it's supposed to be a damn fitness tracker
09:19 <@Dagmar> The front-facing reader is just fuckin' awkward
09:19 <@opticron> it even has a swim mode for gods sake
09:19 <@Dagmar> At no point does one generally place the pad of their finger on their phone screen.  It's always the tip.
09:19 <@Dagmar> That route is like the gorilla finger problem with tablets in reverse
09:21 <@opticron> I'm trying to decide between a zenfone 10 and a pixel 8 at the moment, the former is smaller and the latter has all the software camera magic
09:40 <@Dagmar> It's gonna be a fun week
09:41 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to convince this AD admin we need to ask Microsoft to explain WTF O365 is marking some of the mails we're basically sending to ourself as spam
09:43 < Evilpig> I almost feel bad for these foreign web developers cold calling every new domain registration that pops up
09:44 <@Dagmar> Don't
09:44 <@Dagmar> If they haven't already figured out they are working for assholes and imbeciles, it's their problem '
09:45 <@Dolemite> Gotta love AI generated ads.  "We noticed that you bought a new stove last month.   Here are some more stoves for you to look at."
09:46 < Evilpig> dude just called "i'm so and so from whatever dev co and looking for wilbur"     me: "you found me how can I help you"   uselesstwat: "did you recently purchase kozzytinyhomes.com and are you looking for a devel...."   me: "I did and I didn't put out any request for services"  uselesswat: "yes I know that I am just checking since you got a new domain"  me: "so you know I didn't request services but you called anyway so you know what part comes next right?"  uselesstwat: "ye.."  me: "*click*"
09:46 <@Dolemite> I could understand if I'd paid cash, but I used the damn Home Depot Credit Card to buy the stove at Home Depot.  I don't need another stove at this point.
09:46 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Your cell phone isn't in the Do Not Call list?
09:46 < Evilpig> it 100% is
09:46 <@Dagmar> At this point, anyone *not* vetting their calls against that is *absolutely* engaged in one or more types of crime
09:46 < Evilpig> but I also have it listed in my whois info
09:47 <@Dolemite> As if overseas spam callers give a shit about the DNC registry
09:47 <@Dagmar> That doesn't mean it's a pre-existing business relationship between yourself and the cold caller
09:47 <@Dagmar> Either way, it's a tacit admission they're a shifty fuck no one wants to deal with
09:47 < Evilpig> I did get one to call me back after I hung up on him the other day and he asked me why I was acting like a dirty prostitute.  I laughed at that one.  he obviously hit his breaking point that day
09:48 <@Dagmar> If they could still form coherent words, you have failed
09:48 <@Dagmar> I'm usually aiming to make them so mad all they can do is scream
09:49 <@Dagmar> They could generally make more money giving handjobs in back alleys
09:49 < Evilpig> I was in the middle of picking sabrina up or something and wasn't in the mood to play games at that exact moment.  but him calling back did tickle me
09:49 <@Dagmar> ...and then at least they'd get to see their mom more.
09:50 <@Dagmar> _THat_ one has been shopped to a razor's edge
09:50 <@Dagmar> If you don't explicitly say their mom gives handjobs in alleys, it leaves them nowhere to run
09:51 <@Dagmar> They can't rebut it because you can scold them for shaming their own mother for her career choices
09:51 <@Dagmar> She was still able to raise "*ahem* people like you".  All sorts of good stuff
09:52 <@Dagmar> ...and they literally _could_ be making more money giving handjobs in alleys, _and they know it_
09:52 <@Dagmar> You can absolutely reduce someone to incoherent rage with that in the toolkit
10:11 <@jb7od> I super hate a cold caller. Used to have a frontdesk that was supposed to triage calls for everybody, but I got lots that shouldn't have gotten through. 
10:12 <@jb7od> "No, we have a department. Sorry I'm not able to help, but thoses are board level decisions and this is a Helpdesk Support Line."
10:13 < Evilpig> I just had a request from our tier 2 support folks on how to install cuda
10:13 <@jb7od> The nvidia thing?
10:14 <@jb7od> @_@
10:14 < Evilpig> yup
10:14 < Evilpig> I had to give him step by step what to type because he couldn't read it for himself somehow
10:14 <@jb7od> don't burn on em too bad i guess. 
10:14 < Evilpig> https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html#ubuntu
10:14 < PigBot> 1. Introduction — cuda-installation-guide-linux 12.2 documentation (at docs.nvidia.com) https://tinyurl.com/y8vaj2lo
10:15 < Evilpig> the worst he got was "here let me hold your hand"
10:16 < Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mxbhlkimkvbeyk67zdkxa/Screenshot-2023-10-03-at-11.16.01-AM.png?rlkey=xksr3jg6v7uleuqtnmguyd0dt&dl=0
10:17 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screenshot 2023-10-03 at 11.16.01 AM.png - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) https://tinyurl.com/ysrhempm
10:17 <@jb7od> That's benevolent- 
10:17 < Evilpig> I can get along 
10:19 <@jb7od> That's good tho, bad cop doesn't always get it done. 
10:20 <@jb7od> (without avoidable suffering)
10:43 < aestetix> man I fucking hate systemd
11:06 <@jb7od> Headline today says CRISPR now has on/off. @_@ https://www.freethink.com/science/new-base-editor
11:06 < PigBot> New base editor has an “on/off" switch (at www.freethink.com) https://tinyurl.com/ymktv26d
11:15 < Evilpig> usaa wants to offer me $3700 for my truck on a "buyback"
11:15 < Evilpig> where I keep the truck and they claim that they paid me for the total loss and I purchased the truck back
11:20 <@Dagmar> ...and now you have a salvage title
11:22 <@Dagmar> You might want to check with _your_ insurance company about this 
11:23 <@Dagmar> Basically, it's a near-certainty they're fuckin' up to something by even approaching the subject of them _owning_ your car as a result of the collision
11:24 <@Dagmar> How the fuck is a simple bumper repair incurring such a complex web of paperwork in the first place
11:25 <@Dagmar> Oh they ARE looking to fuck you over
11:26 <@Dagmar> https://www.tn.gov/revenue/title-and-registration/vehicle-titling/salvage.html#:~:text=If%20your%20vehicle%20is%20deemed,on%20the%20roadways%20of%20Tennessee.
11:26 < PigBot> Salvage (at www.tn.gov) https://tinyurl.com/yorghmd4
11:26 <@Dagmar> Tell them to fuck right off
11:27 <@Dagmar> Like, head south, and keep on fucking off until they get to fuck off town, tehn hang a left and keep on fucking off forever with that
11:28 <@Dagmar> There's a strong possibility that them declaring the vehicle totaled will render it _unusable_ because you won't be able to get a title/registration again
11:32 <@Dagmar> It's time to ask them how much they think a lawyer is going to cost to defend this case which has video evidence
11:33 <@Dagmar> What you wanna bet the adjustor has told the salvager what they could get out of it in parts and someone's looking to make more than $3700 by scrapping your truck
11:44 <@Dagmar> Their obligation, if this comes before a judge, is going to be to make you "whole", which doesn't include a bunch of song and dance that benefits them alone
11:47 < Evilpig> I'm about to call progressive now and get them to go at it
11:48 <@Dagmar> At the very least there's paperwork you'll have to file, possibly an inspection of the vehicle, and two rounds of titling fees
11:48 < Evilpig> I agree on that point and I told him "so you're fixing it?  your client hit me, you're making me right"
11:48 <@Dagmar> Fuuuuck USAA and what they want
11:49 < Evilpig> I already knew about the salvage to rebuilt title dance, my insurance agent told me about it when I called her the first time
11:49 <@Dagmar> It's sort of "undefined" what happens with that for vehicles more than 10 years old
11:49 < Evilpig> I just emailed this clown back on his bullshit and said I want everything in writing.  nobody will accept a verbal deal on anything.
12:30 <@Dagmar> What does Progressive say about the title affecting your insurance rates?  ;)
12:31 <@Dolemite> You likely can't get insured for anything but liability on a Rebuilt Title
12:34 <@Dagmar> I think that's all pretty much anyone gets on a 10+ year old beater anyway
12:38 <@Dolemite> No, we still have collision on the 1997 Nissan Maxima
13:09 < Evilpig> i've emailed my insurance gal.  i'll let you know
13:09 < Evilpig> I've only got liability on the truck anyhow.  that changed a few years back because of the age and value of hte truck.  it's dumb, but whatever
13:10 < Evilpig> reality is if I can get a check for $3700 out of them and getting the title straight isn't a giant hassle I'll likely live with the bumper being bent
13:12 <@Dolemite> that'd be my philosophy
13:30 <@Dagmar> Well, I wouldnm't call it "dumb" since generally one would expect that someone else hitting your truck would result in them or their insurance company f**king paying to have it fixed instead of trying to take it
13:46 < Evilpig> the way the law is written if the cost of the repair is greater than 70% of the value of the vehicle they can declare it a total loss and start this retarded process
13:47 <@Dolemite> That's because TN Dept of Insurance and Revenue does not protect consumers, it protects the industry
14:02 < Evilpig> yup
14:38 <@Dagmar> They can, _if they own it_
14:41 <@Dagmar> Highly professional outfit these people.... https://ultipro.com http://ultipro.com
14:41 < PigBot> HTTPSConnectionPool(host='ultipro.com', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: / (Caused by SSLError(SSLError(1, '[SSL: SSLV3_ALERT_HANDSHAKE_FAILURE] sslv3 alert handshake failure (_ssl.c:749)'),)) (at ultipro.com) https://tinyurl.com/yxh9nv6j
14:41 < PigBot> 403 <!DOCTYPE html>
15:16 < Evilpig> http://ultipro.com/
15:16 < PigBot> 403 <!DOCTYPE html>
15:16 < Evilpig> it uyou hit it http it comes up as a prohibited IP
15:20 < Evilpig> looking at the wayback machine their site has been broken garbage for well over a year
15:21 < Evilpig> https://web.archive.org/web/20200928102253/http://ultipro.com/
15:21 < PigBot>  (at web.archive.org) https://tinyurl.com/yo34tmho
15:21 < Evilpig> they redirected that site to https://www.ultimatesoftware.com/  which redirects to someplace else now too
15:21 < PigBot> HR and workforce management solutions | UKG (at www.ultimatesoftware.com) https://tinyurl.com/y5hwnnwy
19:25 < nihil> https://www.patreon.com/posts/time-to-preserve-78074244
19:25 < PigBot> 403 <!DOCTYPE html><html lang="en-US"><head><title>Just a moment...< (at www.patreon.com) https://tinyurl.com/yv8pca5w
19:27 < nihil> yall see that? was pretty wild
19:27 < nihil> the ancient floppy disk acquitting some dudes
19:42 < Evilpig> so we have a new speaker of the house ?  or just a vacancy until they have another vote?  this is comical
19:45 < nihil> for not letting the government shut down?
19:46 < nihil> divide and conquer i tell ya wut
19:46 < Evilpig> for depending on votes from the dems to get stuff passed apparently
19:47 < Evilpig> how dare try to get both sides on an issue, it's us or them 
19:48 < nihil> yeah, they don't even care what it's about anymore so long as you're not on their side 
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