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08:26 < dasunt> Not really sure where Redhat thinks it's going with it's new policy.
08:35 <@Dagmar> Forcing all those darn freeloaders to get licences by eliminating their competition, of course
08:35 <@Dagmar> Also, burning their userbase to the ground
08:53 < dasunt> Well, I know I'll totally pay for a RHEL license for my homelab.
08:53 < dasunt> If only other distros existed so I wouldn't be forced to, but alas, we don't live in that reality.  ;)
08:56 <@Mirage> dasunt: Pay?  Just sign up for the free sub... https://developers.redhat.com/articles/faqs-no-cost-red-hat-enterprise-linux
08:56 < PigBot> No-cost Red Hat Enterprise Linux Individual Developer Subscription: FAQs | Red Hat Developer (at developers.redhat.com) https://tinyurl.com/y4x8ut8l
09:05 < dasunt> Mirage: I believe I'm signed up for that, actually.  I remember the licensing being slightly annoying though.
09:07 <@Mirage> The only thing annoying is that you have to sign back up for it again each year and they don't notify you that your sub is going to or has expired via email
09:07 <@Dagmar> I don't see any point in bothering with their mess anymore
09:08 <@Mirage> Oh and you don't "re-up" the sub, you request a new one..so you have to go in and re-subscribe all your systems w/ the new key or creds
09:44 < dasunt> That's what I'm probably thinking of.
09:45 < dasunt> So I was using CentOS and Rocky instead for my RHEL test boxes.
09:45 < dasunt> But kill them, and I'll probably just not bother.
09:57 < dasunt> Oooh, think I pissed off someone before 10 am.  That may be a new record.  
09:59 < dasunt> It's easy to make people angry here when you point out that the only place knowledge is recorded is in one person's head, then that's a problem.
11:25 < Evilpig> Mirage: I think all my systems re-attached to my new sub this year
11:35 <@Mirage> I re-reg'd my two right after i signed up again.  Didn't even try w/o having done so
12:00 < Evilpig> almost all of my stuff is automated so I didn't have to think about it after I redid that dev agreement
12:02 < Evilpig> since red hat is eternally behind on some things.  I added a drop in to dnf-automatic to add this
12:02 < Evilpig> [Service]
12:02 < Evilpig> ExecStopPost=/usr/bin/postpatch
12:03 < Evilpig> and then in that postpatch it runs the needs-restarting utility from the yum-utils package and if it needs to be rebooted post updates it reboots
12:03 < Evilpig> that shoudl just be a setting in /etc/dnf-automatic.conf or whatever of reboot=when-needed or whatever but noooooo
12:04 < Evilpig> and cuda, does not trigger a reboot. damn nvidia
12:06 <@Dagmar> That would in theory mean that the cuda modules weren't loaded when needs-restarting was run
12:07 <@Dagmar> ...or that the package managed to unload them and reload the new modules itself
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12:15 < Evilpig> it didn't unload the previous kernel module but compiled the new one rendering the encoder useless until you reboot 
12:15 < Evilpig> so when you run nvidia-smi it comes up with an error about an incompatible driver
12:45 < Evilpig> gift cards are the worst.  
12:46 < Evilpig> I hate trying to get every last cent off these things.  it's gotten to the point now I just save up several and then convert them into amazon where we routinely use stuff
12:46 < Evilpig> or nintendo cards because I use those regularly too
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