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06:22 < aestetix> https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/06/11/videos-show-nazi-flags-desantis-sign-disney-world/70310731007/
06:22 < PigBot> Videos show people with Nazi flags, DeSantis sign outside Disney World (at eu.usatoday.com) https://tinyurl.com/22u4lnk6
07:19 < Evilpig> I saw that last night and it isn't surprising.  trump's got his fair share of them too, likely the exact same group
07:22 < aestetix> How hard would it for Trump and that florida guy to just come out and condemn that
07:23 < aestetix> desomething
07:23 < aestetix> desantis I think
07:23 < aestetix> it's not a left/right issue. it's a reasonable people vs nazis issue
07:45 <@Mirage> Evilpig: no, I drove..  Only an ~11.5hr drive.
07:46 <@Mirage> To me it made more sense AND I get to avoid the TSA and all the rest of the BS of flying
08:09 <@Mirage> Wife works every other weekend and cousin has to schedule any outings w/ his PO, so I would have either had to park for a week at the airport or taken an uber/cab down there.  Then would have had a rental car for a week already anyway while I'm here, so I decided I may as well just get a rental local and drive it up/there/back.
08:11 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:11 <@Mirage> Going solo I only stopped 3 times.  Twice for bio break and to clean off all the bugs on the windshield, once for the same plus gas.  Arrived at the hotel ~10m later than the GPS predicted when I first plugged in the address in TX when I left out.
08:12 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Yeah, I'm driving to Milwaukee in 2 weeks.  Pamela can come with me since I'm driving and it's only 11 hours - and I get to avoid all the airport BS.
08:17 <@Mirage> I also got to being 2 laptops, docking station, external bluetooth speakers (so I could listen to KXT radio's stream in decent speakers), coffee/coffee maker, etc.   Also brought one of my old FireTV sticks so I could watch my prime/netflix/hulu/plex instead of their shitty cable
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08:44 <@Dolemite> Yeah, we're going up 5 days early to toodle around Lake Superior and are also going to go meet up with Sara & Ian for dinner on Monday night
08:54 < Evilpig> Reading an RFC this morning and want a second opinion.  https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2818.txt
08:54 < PigBot> None (at www.rfc-editor.org) https://tinyurl.com/2yneh487
08:54 < Evilpig> If I am understanding this right, IF you have a subjectAltName(san) defined the list of names in the SAN also has to include the common name
08:55 <@Dolemite> Correct
08:56 < Evilpig> that's what I was thinking.  just adding in some data validation to correct some mistakes of the past being propigated by some others
08:56 <@Dolemite> Although last I'd read there's a proposal at CA Browser Forum to basically disregard the CN completely and only use the SAN list
08:56 < Evilpig> I saw mention of that too, but if you aren't using a SAN that request mkes no sense.
08:56 < Evilpig> just makes the process more complicated to make all certs use the san solely
08:57 <@Dolemite> Eh.  The CA can inject that name into an empty SAN during the enrollment if necessary.
08:57 <@Dolemite> That's why I have certmgr auto adding the CN into the SAN if it's not already there
08:58 <@Dolemite> As long as CA's still charge different prices for a single name cert vs. multi, I see people pushing back on that rule
08:58 <@Dolemite> But yeah, the command line openssl csr generation isn't SAN friendly at all
09:03 <@Dagmar> That's because you're not meant to add extended attributes through the command line.  Use a config file.
09:03 <@Dolemite> Yes, I know that.  It's just not user friendly.
09:03 <@Dagmar> It's dead easy with a configuration file.
09:04 <@Dolemite> It's dead easy through the CSR generator on the web app that I wrote, but I still have to walk some "admins" through the process.
09:04 <@Dagmar> That's because you still want to pretend stupid people should be allowed to work in IT
09:04 <@Dagmar> THat's on you.
09:04 <@Dolemite> I have no say over who gets hired
09:04 <@Dagmar> I have a guy who was trying to get *me* to generate his cert and cert request, for his Windows webserver
09:04 <@Dolemite> So it's not on me, but it's my job to support our customer base
09:05 <@Dagmar> I'm not pretending he's not an idiot.
09:05 <@Dagmar> Also the guy has gotten a cert from us _twice_ and still doesn't appear to be using either of them because he can't figure out how to install them in his IIS server
09:05 <@Dagmar> I have hopes we'll just dump their goddamn contract
09:06 <@Dolemite> Yes, I have to sometimes support people like that
09:07 <@Dagmar> The next time those users have a problem with the contractor's server underperforming I'm going to start openly questioning why we continue to work with them
09:07 <@Dagmar> I'm getting a little tired of troubleshooting our network connections to them for no reason other than their support fucks don't want to restart their shithole of a server instance
09:08 <@Dagmar> ...but i"m figuring the AWS bill will start making that argument for me very soon
09:08 <@Dagmar> ...and like at least once every 14 days it comes to us that we need to check out the VPN and center connections because their system is slow
09:54 < dasunt> They don't have a heartbeat check?
09:56 < aestetix> reddit seems to be down
09:57 < aestetix> https://downdetector.com/status/reddit/
09:57 < PigBot> 403 <!DOCTYPE html>
09:57 < aestetix> I wonder if this is related to the blackout thing
10:05 < aestetix> HN is down too
10:09 < Evilpig> where am I gonna get my porn from?
10:10 < aestetix> Evilpig: maybe load up one of your tumblr backups
10:15 < aestetix> I am not sure how to feel about this
10:16 < aestetix> On the one hand, I support the overall movement against the API shit and other things the reddit management is doing
10:16 < aestetix> On the other hand, this means I just lost access to a bunch of little subreddits I was following
10:33 <@opticron> until wednesday or so
10:59 <@Dagmar> Well, it's not like there's going to be new posts you'll miss out on
11:00 < dasunt> I only support causes if they don't inconvenience me.
11:02 < aestetix> dasunt: like Citizens For Apathy?
11:02 < aestetix> It would actually be funny to go around asking people if they cared about the Citizens for Apathy cause
11:02 < aestetix> and see how many said no
11:12 <@Dagmar> That would actually indicate their support
13:51 < Evilpig> Dagmar, Mirage: feel free to congratulate chad wigal on his new position.  As of June 26 he will be a Red Hat TAM
15:48 < Evilpig> I still hate cups
15:52 <@Dolemite> I love the big yellow ones from Dickie's.   Holds a full liter. :)
15:55 < Evilpig> i've spent the last few hours rooting around in dell's site trying to get cups compatible drivers.  what a pain in teh ass!
16:15 < dasunt> Nothing OS?
21:38 <@Dagmar> ...and still CUPS is better than what we have to do without CUPS
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