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02:56 <@aestetix> I discovered a new reality show for you: parking wars
02:56 <@aestetix> It looks extra stupid
02:56 <@aestetix> er that was for Evilpig 
06:10 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:13  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:54 <@Dolemite> Bah.  The episode of Ted Lasso that downloaded last night has a burned in URL.
07:00 < Evilpig> aestetix: I have plenty of dumb reality tv.  my fav was storage wars?  people bidding on old storage lockers in the hopes that someone left something in one that wasn't sentimental garbage
07:29 < Evilpig> I'm sure this is just going to jinx it but I think after 8 years I've finally gotten rtorrent fixed
07:29 < Evilpig> haven't had a single crash this week, or any torrent file not get removed properly
07:58 < dasunt> I'm not going to entirely diss the idea of writing install scripts in bourne or bash.  But I find it weird if that's your default enterprise infrastructure plan.  Sure it's doable.  But it seems the hard way to do it.
07:58 < Evilpig> I script in whatever makes sense for the task
07:59 < Evilpig> if bash is common across whatever, do it up
07:59 < dasunt> Sure.  But if I'm designing something, I'd rather not have to hand code each and every idempotency check.
08:01 < dasunt> Bourne is pretty good for a project install.  Or Make + Bourne.  I just don't see it as anywhere an ideal default for an enterprise operation.
08:45 <@aestetix> So on a totally unrelated note
08:45 <@aestetix> It's been kind of odd watching "retro" video games have the market that baseball cards used to
08:46 <@aestetix> I wonder how much my old video game collection would be if I hadn't.... lost it, threw it out, etc
08:46 <@aestetix> To be honest probably not much since I mean.... it was video games
10:35 < dasunt> No 'set -eo Pipefail' in this script.  WTF?
10:36 <@Mirage> Me bitching to coworker:  'OMG, this new Win11 VM image runs like shit.  I've given it 4 cores and 16g of ram and it still runs like dogshit!'
10:37 <@Mirage> His response:  'Go into the bios on your laptop and make sure you've enabled virtualization'
10:38 <@Mirage> WTF?!?  You can't even run a VM (w/ Workstation at least) unless you have virtualization enabled.
10:40 <@Mirage> Some dumbass in corp's security group that baked this 'approved' image seriously fucked up and set mcafee to do a full scan on bootup.  Not once per day, not weekly at 4am on Sun... EVERY BOOT. 
13:23 <@Mirage> One of the Windows guys was trying to convince me that using SecureCRT was a REQUIREMENT to work on this customer's environment.   When pressed as to why he started telling me that you needed to be able to open multiple sessions and execute certain commands to be able to get to somethings.   What he was showing me was creating an ssh tunnel in one window, then using another to connect through that tunnel.  
13:23 <@Mirage>  I pointed out quite quickly that you can do all that with any ssh client.
14:44 <@opticron> Mirage, virtualbox doesn't *need* virt enabled
14:44 <@opticron> it just runs like shit if it's not
14:44 <@opticron> not sure what you're referencing, though
14:45 <@opticron> also, win11 prevents anything from using raw hardware virt directly because too much virt-based security has been baked into the OS
14:45 <@opticron> my boss just went through this and had to downgrade to win10 to get virtualbox to run anything at a reasonable speed
14:49 <@opticron> ah, but you're talking about virtualized win11, not a win11 host
14:55 < Evilpig> Mirage: you can blow his little mind and set up an ssh session with multiplexing  https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/Multiplexing
14:55 < PigBot> OpenSSH/Cookbook/Multiplexing - Wikibooks, open books for an open world (at en.m.wikibooks.org) https://tinyurl.com/2oesb9p3
15:01 <@Mirage> opticron: I did note Workstation requires it
15:02 <@Mirage> So far as I recall, virtualbox predates cpu hardware virtualization as it stands now
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15:23 <@Mirage> not sure why, but apparently I didn't run irssi in a screen last time...which is VERY unlike me
15:51 < Evilpig> it happens
22:48 < Evilpig> hrmmm.  dementia just added this to plex.  http://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=433614
22:48 < PigBot> Mark Rober's Revengineers - TheTVDB.com (at www.thetvdb.com) https://tinyurl.com/2fq76teh
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