--- Log opened Fri May 12 00:00:18 2023
05:14 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:02 <@Dolemite> Watching this show, "The Big Door Prize".   I need this restaurant to exist in the real world.   It's a combination Italian Restaurant/Arcade that has a table inside of a gondola that runs on a track around the dining room.   It's the pinnacle of tacky and I love it so much.
06:02 <@Dolemite> Oh, and it exists in a town "so small" that it only has 1 doctor
06:08  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:32 < Evilpig> lol.  I woke up to a new show added to plex and i'm not displeased but it.  https://trakt.tv/shows/the-muppets-mayhem
06:32 < PigBot> The Muppets Mayhem - Trakt (at trakt.tv) https://tinyurl.com/2nenlr6w
06:33 <@Dolemite> Oh, sweet, I forgot to add that to Sonarr
06:33 < Evilpig> Nobody told me that they added it, but i'm gogin to assume it was dementia
06:48 <@Dolemite> and now I have them all, too
06:49 < Evilpig> the internet is great.  lol
06:50 < Evilpig> I think I found the solution to my emergency power off scripting problem last night too
06:50 < Evilpig> since i've had to shutdown my system so many times the last few days from power or swapping parts I finally got a chance to debug the issue a bit more
06:51 <@Dolemite> Ugh.  Really hate it when neighbors get dogs that bark when they're left alone.   All.  Fucking.  Day.
06:51 <@Dolemite> So then Odie gets to borking back at him.  And so on, and so on.
06:51 < Evilpig> the proxmox api does everything by task.  if you send a shutdown command it starts that task.  I set my power down script thta if a system takes more than 3 minutes to shutdown then I said fuck it, just yank the plug and send a stop.  but that stop was getting added to the queue
06:52 <@Dolemite> Keeps going usually until about 10 AM when the dog next door finally gives up for a nap, then in the afternoon it starts back up.
06:52 < Evilpig> Turns out when you issue the shutdown it gives you a pid of sorts for the task,  so the answer is to send a delete to the api to clear that task, then you can issue the stop and yank the plug immediately command
07:29 < Evilpig> Dolemite:  I know you use proxmox, I know NotLarry has some too.  maybe this could be useful.  probably not.  https://gist.github.com/wilpig/2944d5cdbbd830563bed1d0340498647
07:29 < PigBot> poweroff-public · GitHub (at gist.github.com) https://tinyurl.com/2e8bqbsg
07:30 <@Dolemite> just using nut-ups for the signal?
07:31 < Evilpig> planning on that
07:32 < Evilpig> right now it's just been manual making sure this process is solid
07:32 < Evilpig> I have nut functioning though
07:33 < Evilpig> for a full automated shutdown I still have to add a few more items.  the proxmox system itself will need to be powered off, my plex server and nas will need shutdowns issued as well
07:34 < Evilpig> this here just powers off all the VMs in a controlled fashion 
07:34 < Evilpig> if I did it right, it should shut down an entire proxmox cluster's vms
07:34 < Evilpig> mine isn't clustered, but it should
08:27 < ShellGh0st> I watched D&D Honor Among Thieves based on the recommendations in this channel.  It's really good.
08:27 < ShellGh0st> watched it with the gf
08:27 < ShellGh0st> she declared it to be the best D&D movie by far, and I agree, but the bar wasn't high
08:29 < ShellGh0st> also dumped all the 9 letter words into a filter last night and started generating vanity onions with just any 9 letter word
08:29 < ShellGh0st> woke up to a lot of them
08:29 < ShellGh0st> some are pretty good
08:29 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: I haven't futzed around as much with Python - I see that you are running yours in a venv.   Is there anything in your script that basically requires it to be run that way?
08:31 < Evilpig> ShellGh0st: the only thing I have to say on that is if they had replaced hugh grant with bruce campbell for forge it owuld have been better. 
08:31 < Evilpig> nope
08:31 < Evilpig> I just do it that way to keep the modules split from the base python
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08:31 < ShellGh0st> Evilpig: can't do better than Bruce Campbell
08:31 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: That was my hot take but again, much less python experience
08:32 < ShellGh0st> I thought Hugh Grant did a good job though
08:32 < Evilpig> he did great, but bruce would have been amazing
08:32 < Evilpig> I could even see tim curry in that role being incredible
08:33 < Evilpig> tim curry as "the creepy uncle"  oh yeah... that would fit
08:33 < ShellGh0st> one of the vanity onions starts with "revenant".  That's the coolest one so far....
08:33 <@Dolemite> Sadly, Tim Curry is not physically capable of acting anymore
08:34 < ShellGh0st> I misspoke, they're 8 letter words, might try 9 tonight
08:34 < ShellGh0st> Dolemite: There's a really good Terry Pratchett movie with Tim Curry
08:35 <@Dolemite> There's a shitload of awesome stuff with Tim Curry, but he had a stroke several years back and only does voice work, now
08:35 < ShellGh0st> yeah I know
08:35 <@Dolemite> He's limited to a wheelchair
08:35 < ShellGh0st> I think The Colour of Magic and The Rocky Horror Picture Show are my all time favs
08:36 < Evilpig> that's unfortunate he has such a good screen presence
08:36 < ShellGh0st> and I miss his acting
08:36 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm glad that he's still able to work doing what he loves, even if it's scaled back
08:39 <@Dolemite> Well I'm gonna have to check out Colour of Magic, now
08:39 < ShellGh0st> Dolemite++ 
08:39 < ShellGh0st> Have you read the books?
08:39 <@Dolemite> No
08:39 < ShellGh0st> prolly even better
08:40 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.  Sonarr is only finding episode 2.
08:40 < ShellGh0st> I DLed them all about a year ago
08:40 < ShellGh0st> all the Terry Pratchett movies
08:40 < ShellGh0st> Even Hogfather is good, I liked them all
08:40 < ShellGh0st> Going Postal is amazing too.
08:42 <@Dolemite> ok, found part 1
08:42 < Evilpig> http://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=81592
08:42 < PigBot> Terry Pratchett's The Colour of Magic - TheTVDB.com (at www.thetvdb.com) https://tinyurl.com/2gobvjyc
08:43 -!- oddball [~oddball@h134-215-29-183.mtjltn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600
08:43 <@Dolemite> Those miniseries classified as movies always screw up sonarr
08:44 < Evilpig> yup
08:49 < Evilpig> one of those miniseries turned movie got all screwy recently thanks to the scene and hbo or cinemax re-releasing it as a three part series instead of the 6 it originally aired as.
08:50 < Evilpig> can't remember the name of it.  the door or something like that
08:50 < Evilpig> sci-fi series about a mysterious hotel room 
08:50 < Evilpig> the lost room
08:51 < Evilpig> http://trakt.tv/search/tvdb/79637?id_type=show
08:51 < PigBot> The Lost Room - Trakt (at trakt.tv) https://tinyurl.com/2laj48h3
09:22 <@Dolemite> Alas, it appears that the retractable network cables that we gave out at PhreakNIC many years ago aren't quite high enough quality to support gigabit ethernet.  Actually, looks like I'm only getting about 10 MBps off of this one.   Gotta go make a new patch cable but this was handy so I tried it.  heh.
09:56 < ShellGh0st> < /usr/share/dict/words grep "^[a-z]\{9\}$" > nine
09:57 < ShellGh0st> I should use single quotes
09:57 < ShellGh0st> Is this the best way? 
09:58 < ShellGh0st> I made a wordle distionary like this the other day too
10:00 < ShellGh0st> ./mkp224o -t 12 -f nine
10:00 < ShellGh0st> those take way longer
10:00 < ShellGh0st> it's like bitcoin proof of work
10:06 < ShellGh0st> Does anyone know/think NIST weakened SHA3/Keccack?  That stuff is fascinating...
10:07 < ShellGh0st> I mean we know they weakened it I think, but was it for nefarious reasons?
10:14 < ShellGh0st> I've decided everyone needs their own onion(s) and am trying to think of a p2p application layer that could sit on such a thing.  With like a "chain-letter" algorithm
10:15 < ShellGh0st> and the DHT of course
10:15 < Evilpig> Dolemite: first.. you still have one of those?  second... you expected that to have enough twist per inch to do gig?  
10:15 <@Dolemite> I still have two :)
10:15 <@Dolemite> It wasn't even getting 100 Mbps.   It was doing 10 Mbps.  LOL
10:15 <@Dagmar> I'm guessing it's the resistance causing signal-loss that's the majority of the problem
10:15 <@Dolemite> I figured it would have at least done 100
10:15 < Evilpig> I likely do have one as well in a box someplace but I certainly wouldn't consider it an option
10:16 <@Dagmar> Those nics are gettign a snort of some cheap copper tinsel and saying "nope"
10:16 < ShellGh0st> Dolemite: Do you know if it's Cat-3?
10:16 <@Dolemite> It was a novelty to even try it, but I was already making a new cable while it was connected
10:16 <@Dagmar> They're ribbon cables if I remember correctly
10:16 <@Dolemite> It's flat cable, so no twists at all
10:17 < ShellGh0st> Cat-3 will just up to 10Mbps
10:17 <@Dagmar> I have one around here too somewhere
10:17 <@Dagmar> The amount of interference they'll absorb is zero
10:26 < ShellGh0st> we set up a huge 10baseT lan at the vendor booths at defcon in 1996.  had like 100+ ppl on it all wired with daisycahined hubs and crap
10:26 < ShellGh0st> and we were like "This is so fast!"
10:28 < ShellGh0st> I had a huge party in our room and smeone stole to 100BaseT NICs my friend Alex had left on the dresser.  They also opened my windows with their special screwdrivers, multiple hackers climbed out on the roof and stole a big spool of coax and 6 foot satelite dish.
10:28 < ShellGh0st> while I was yelling for them to cut i out
10:29 < ShellGh0st> the guy came in with dish and me yelling what the fuck.  He put it down, apologized and bowed to me, and then ran out the door with it and took it to the elvator lobby of some other floor and left it there
10:30 < ShellGh0st> s/stole to/stole two
10:32 < ShellGh0st> they must've been 10BaseT NICs
10:33 < ShellGh0st> And Captain Crunch took my PBX hotel room phone apart into little bits and then put it all back together in like 8 minutes when I yelled at HIM
10:36 < ShellGh0st> Just looked, that was Defcon 5, 1997
11:09 <@Dagmar> Now I understand why people use mod_php
11:09 <@Dagmar> ...it's because the mod_perl docs are shit
11:11 <@Dagmar> I see stuff on the difference between mod_perl 1.x and 2.x, a guide to building a massive e-commerce site, and whole bunch of caveats related to how it works, but it seems like no one bothered to write the basic "This is how you get the query paramters" and "This is how you return a simple document or error"
11:11 <@Dagmar> WTF
11:12 < ShellGh0st> hah I used to write web servers in Perl
11:12 < ShellGh0st> Apache::Voodoo (developed by Nashville's own Maverick, it kinda sucked) and the Catalyst
11:13 < ShellGh0st> Writing web servers in PHP with a good framework is way easier and better
11:13 < ShellGh0st> I wrote a book about it. ;)
11:13 <@Dagmar> Except that PHP is a shit languahe
11:13 < ShellGh0st> With Lauren
11:14 < ShellGh0st> Dagmar: I like it, but I'm used to the object model from C++ and Java etc
11:14 < ShellGh0st> I still use perl everyday for sysadmin crap and text manipulation
11:14 <@Dagmar> I only _seldom_ do anything where objects make a lick of sense
11:15 < ShellGh0st> yeah I'm adamant about using the ORM,so that kinda leaves you stuck some inobjectland
11:16 < ShellGh0st> Perl 5's object are "anarchic"
11:16 < ShellGh0st> gotta use Moose or something to make it make sense ;)
11:17 < ShellGh0st> (Do the moose horns sign, Dagmar)  :)
11:17 <@Dagmar> Or, you could not try to shove everything into an object-oriented container
11:17 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm not about to strap 10,000 lines of someone else's bullshit onto a 3,000-line application to make it "faster"
11:17 < ShellGh0st> I mean, if you're gonna use a framework they are mostly implemented with objects
11:17 <@Dagmar> That's just plain fucked up
11:18 < ShellGh0st> Yii is way fast ;)
11:18 < ShellGh0st> way faster than not using it
11:18 <@Dagmar> Magical thinking
11:18 <@Dagmar> I've been writing code in perl for over 25 years now.  I don't write shitcode.
11:18 < ShellGh0st> hah
11:19 < ShellGh0st> not trying to make you see my path.  You do you.
11:19 < ShellGh0st> :)
11:19 <@Dagmar> I don't fuck with pointless memcpy() just so my code "looks good" for example
11:19 <@Dagmar> 99% of my code is just passing references back and forth
11:20 < ShellGh0st> yeah that's a lot of how my perl code used to look too
11:20 < ShellGh0st> now it's all one liners with -pe etc
11:21 < Evilpig> https://www.prekindle.com/event/28714-emo-nite-nashville
11:21 < PigBot> Emo Nite Tickets, Friday, July 14 2023 | Prekindle (at www.prekindle.com) https://tinyurl.com/2h8p5dex
11:21 < Evilpig> something here doesn't fit
11:21 < Evilpig> can't quite put my finger on what though
11:22 <@Dagmar> The fact that the artwork looks like something from a damn pre-school?
11:23 < ShellGh0st> The last time I heard the word "Emo" all the potential attendees of that were in preschool
11:24 <@Dagmar> You're thinking about 'Elmo'
11:25 < ShellGh0st> I mostly code in C, Java, and Kotlin these days because of my.  Every now and then I'll get a PHP project handed to me, or C
11:25 < ShellGh0st> or C# .NET
11:25 <@Dagmar> I'm just wondering why they're spending so much time talking about dubstep and artists with extremely poor decision-amking skills
11:25 < ShellGh0st> that's the reall shitcode ;)
11:25 < ShellGh0st> .NET
11:25 <@Dagmar> Oh christ
11:25 <@Dagmar> People writing .NET for web interfaces need to be beaten
11:25 < Evilpig> you'll get no complaints here about that
11:25 <@Dagmar> Some of them may need to be _set on fire_
11:26 < ShellGh0st> s/because of my/because of my job
11:26 <@Dagmar> They come up with _the_ dumbest shit
11:26 <@Dagmar> Whassit called... "Blazor"?
11:26 < ShellGh0st> these typos are because my keyboard is running down, charging it :)
11:26 <@Dagmar> It might be useful.  It might _not_ cause cancer and brain death
11:26 <@Dagmar> ...but you would not know it from looking at all the completely mindboggling craptactular shitballs people make with it
11:26 < Evilpig> ShellGh0st: just accept your fat fingers like the rest of us.  brain and fingers are out of sync because you're old
11:27 <@Dagmar> There's an app one of our vendors has which just boggles my mind
11:27 < ShellGh0st> hah that too
11:27 < ShellGh0st> its charging, have to go sysamin for 30
11:27 <@Dagmar> This Blazor-driven piece of shit could _maybe_ be elegant, but instead it loads THE ENTIRE FUCKING APPLICATION into the browser in the form of 135 javascript includes
11:28 < Evilpig> I wish I had a battery meter for this on the mac
11:28 < Evilpig> windows shows it just fine.  the mac...  get fukt
11:28 <@Dagmar> That includes when you're looking at the landing/login page
11:28 <@Dagmar> So, you've not even logged in, and the fucking browser has already loaded code for user-management, editing resources, various menuing systems, _all_ the fucking thing
11:29 < Evilpig> that's called preloading.  lol
11:29 <@Dagmar> No, it's called "I don't know how anything fucking works"
11:29 < Evilpig> the internets says that's how you speed things up
11:29 <@Dagmar> These fucks aren't doing anything to tell the browser the javascript peices are cached
11:29 <@Dagmar> ...or should be cached
11:30 <@Dagmar> ...but like, none of that shit should be getting handed over before someone's even logged in
11:30 < Evilpig> I need to go heat some lunch up
11:30 <@Dagmar> I mean their method of "making .NET applications run in the browser" appears to be to just transpile it all into Javascript and then fistfuck the browser with it
11:31 < Evilpig> ooo.  looks like I have two new title cards to rip for the latest beavis and butthead episodes too
11:32 <@Dagmar> They're doing their input validation _in the fucking browser_
11:33 <@Dagmar> There is no world in which that is the right thing to do
11:34 <@Dagmar> Meanwhile, I'm over here reinventing Java methods so I can call a cluster of subroutines to both generate the HTML inputs and sanity check the returned values
11:36 <@Dagmar> Best I can tell that mental malfunction is caused by--for whatever reason--thinking any of their shitcode is still going to be running on the server side
11:38 <@Dagmar> If you can't tell, yes, just looking over what's going on with their webserver the times it's gone tits up and I have had to go verify it's not a problem with our internet connection (because their support people will suggest that, every fucking time) has given me good reason to bitchslap their developers, if they ever pick them up for another short-term contract working remotely from Nowhereistan
11:40 <@Dagmar> ...and I want ya'll to not be under any illusions about what level of input validation.  The answer is "all of it".  I'm not kidding when I say it appears they have transpiled the entire application, including all "business logic" for what was formerly a desktop app, and are now running it in the browser so it can basically make a bunch of unsafe RPC calls
11:41 <@Dagmar> If someoen burns their site to the ground, I will not be surprised
11:43 <@Dagmar> In contrast I even throw a limited set of unit tests at the regular expressions i"m using for validation (both in the browser and again on the server side) so I can safely return a "400 FUCK YOU" if a submission fails
11:43 <@Dagmar> (yes I still have no chill whjen it comes to users playing games and script kiddies using fuzzers)
11:48 <@Dagmar> It's not exactly helping my forgiveness of this shit thinking about how much money some chowderheads were probably paid to write that crap
11:49 <@Dagmar> I'm still horrified that teh company that apparently handles quite a bit of the wife's company's ecommerce stuff quoted them *$500,000* to build them a site that would let customers upload images which would then be emailed to the sales team
11:49 <@Dagmar> Half a million fucking dollars
11:50 <@Dagmar> I want her to tell them I'll do it for half that
11:50 <@Dagmar> ...and guarantee it will be completed in six months
11:51 <@Dagmar> Cuz we'll be going to the Phillipines for a month, where I can hang out with Randy, and I'll just write it there.
11:57 < ShellGh0st> Dagmar: They might not even finish the thing.  For a while I had a company that went around finding failed million dollar projects and redoing/unfucking them for $50k
11:57 <@Dagmar> I have written more complex shit than what they're asking for at my current job in three days
11:57 < ShellGh0st> We found and fixed a ton of crap with me + 1 senior dev and 3 junio devs ad a business analyst
11:58 < ShellGh0st> made money
11:58 < ShellGh0st> because people usually suck
11:58 < ShellGh0st> the bad thing is you're always looking at like the worst f the industry
11:58 <@Dagmar> I found a drag & drop javascript widget for uploads, unraveled it enough to make the feedback useful, and boom into production it goes
11:58 < ShellGh0st> lol
11:59 <@Dagmar> Like literally all teh script needed to do was broker access to a folder basically
11:59 <@Dagmar> Authentication is already being handled by AD
11:59 <@Dagmar> A customer uploading JPGs is going to involve slightly larger files but that's about it
12:00 <@Dagmar> ...and they had the balls to ask for $500k for that shit?
12:01 < ShellGh0st> so if you take this and what I'm saying as a microcosm.... I was also fixated on how much middlemen (consulting agencies etc) get...
12:02 < ShellGh0st> you realize companies are paying trillions of dollars a year on software that should cost billions
12:02 < ShellGh0st> in the gestalt
12:02 <@Dagmar> Not thinking about that keeps me out of clocktowers
12:02 < ShellGh0st> I just want like 1 billion of that waste somehow ;)
12:03 < ShellGh0st> Dagmar: Yes I had to turn to pretty extreme Buddhist practices to keep out of the clocktower myself
12:05 < ShellGh0st> "The Scribe's Oath" ;)
12:06 < ShellGh0st> and I also helped customers save millions with our hard work (still do in my limited capacity as staff coder for a money hungry consulting agency)
12:06 < ShellGh0st> but the customers never appreciated our value
12:07 < ShellGh0st> and I eventually concluded that they DESERVED to be ripped off, but I don't have the mind or the stomach for ripping people off
12:07 <@Dagmar> I look at it as paying a premium for not knowing their ass from a hole in the ground
12:07 < ShellGh0st> yes
12:08 < ShellGh0st> but unfortunately it's always the sharks that benefit from their deficiency, and not the poor or the good
12:12 < ShellGh0st> I once considered throwing an incompetent high dollar lawyer down our stairs when he allowed a Vanderbilt sports professor to lie to him and steal all the investors' money for gambling while we tried to make him the product for very little money.
12:13 < ShellGh0st> He wasn't even angry or negative, and said the guy could keep working for him if he paid back the money.
12:14 < ShellGh0st> That taught Sports Marketing or some shit, stole so much money.
12:14 < ShellGh0st> and he showed up in his AMG Mercedes with a yellow Predators blazer on to tell us the news and ask us to continue even though he couldn't pay.
12:15 < ShellGh0st> the lawyer.  
12:15 < ShellGh0st> Throwing a high-earning Belle Meade lawyer down the stairs is always a bad decision, even if they deserve it
12:15 < ShellGh0st> so I didn't
12:18 < ShellGh0st> We got that contract because a kid that worked for me, his dad wrote "Love will Turn you Around"
12:18 < ShellGh0st> that should have been the first sign...
12:18 < ShellGh0st> they told us that at the outset
12:18 < ShellGh0st> :)
12:20 < ShellGh0st> and from the beginning I kept saying I didn't want to work for them, and my business analyst kept saying "But they have so much money..."
12:21 <@Dagmar> Delusional rich people
12:24 < ShellGh0st> I should fuck with that Sports Marketing professor and that lawyer now that I have some distance :)
12:24 -!- ShellGh0st is now known as BadBuddhist
12:25 <@Dagmar> We only help the wheel spin faster
12:25 < BadBuddhist> Dagmar++
12:25 -!- BadBuddhist is now known as ShellGh0st
12:32 < ShellGh0st> "No, Master Bruce, he's really old. Wouldn't be a fair fight."  "Kung Fu works well on old people and children too.  Don't limit yourself." -- Grandmaster Bruce Linville
12:40 < ShellGh0st> The funny thing about that is Master Bruce is old and walks with a lip and is pretty small...
12:41 < ShellGh0st> limp
12:41 < ShellGh0st> and is totally the wrong guy to get in a fight with :)
13:12 < ShellGh0st> Does anyone know an easy way I can make a driver for an I2c kernel device driver compiled into the kernel completely tear itself down and reup, from userspace?
13:16 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure that's even possible when it's monolithic
13:17 <@Dagmar> I have a somewhat vague memory (as in I can't remember exactly why) along the lines of "that's what you have to use a module for"
13:17 < ShellGh0st> I can make it "unbind" from i2c and rebind by sending some crap to /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/...
13:18 < ShellGh0st> I think
13:18 < ShellGh0st> and then rebind it, but I'm not sure if that's enough for what I need
13:19 < ShellGh0st> I need to, in faulty prose: 1. Take down the driver so it loses it's current knowledge of device-tree.  2.  Reach in and change devicetree.  3. Bring driver back up.
13:20 < ShellGh0st> uboot is passing the wrong stuff to the kernel command line
13:20 < ShellGh0st> and I can't change that but have to gracefully recover in the situation where it happens
13:21 < ShellGh0st> I have also considered ripping out that part of the device tree and hardcoding the values in each driver.
13:21 < ShellGh0st> I can change the kernel or anything above it to fix the bug, just not the broken uboot itself
13:22 < ShellGh0st> I can detect when I'm in the situation now, after one week of testing and thinking
13:22 < ShellGh0st> 'at boot time
13:22 < ShellGh0st> I look for the stuff uboot should have found and if it's wrong I know in the service/script I wrote
13:23 < ShellGh0st> I can't use this in a module.
13:23 < ShellGh0st> or I would.
13:24 < ShellGh0st> The device has a monolithic kernel and that's how it's gonna be :)
13:24 < ShellGh0st> not my choice
13:27 < ShellGh0st> it is screens for custom android device
13:37 < ShellGh0st> I think the unbinding stuff is what I need
13:37 < ShellGh0st>  ShellGh0st: "/sbin/reboot"   you could try for an unbind in /sys/bus/i2c/wherever-your-device-is
13:37 < ShellGh0st> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66795580/how-to-load-and-unload-linux-drivers-that-are-built-into-kernel
13:37 < PigBot> How to load and unload linux drivers that are built into kernel - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) https://tinyurl.com/2eyzjou8
13:37 < ShellGh0st> to maybe answer my own question
13:45 < ShellGh0st> I wrote a touchscreen driver about a year ago, but it always takes me a while to get back in this space
14:02 < ShellGh0st> Omg it's always like a rubiks cube of the device tree and the kernel and uboot and the drivers
14:02 < ShellGh0st> *sigh*
14:12 <@Dagmar> Yeah unbinding it wil probably work, assuming it can be re-bound
14:12 <@Dagmar> I know a bunch of old audio cards you were just basically going to have to "live with it" becuase unless there was a module there was no way to make it "let go" of the card
14:16 <@Dolemite> Our enterprise architect seriously just called it "Lie-nux"
14:16 <@Dolemite> DEAD TO ME
14:17 <@Dagmar> I trust he's only allowed to touch Windows machines
14:17 <@Dolemite> Only his laptop
14:17 <@Dolemite> His screen share does appear to be Windows
15:01 < ShellGh0st> I'm watch 64 bit Win XP install in VirtualBox right now, it's a trip
15:02 < ShellGh0st> I used to work with a guy that called it Lie-nucks
15:02 < ShellGh0st> in 2000
15:02 < ShellGh0st> and even then I was like, that guy don't know shit
15:03 < ShellGh0st> Everyone is scared to correct them
15:03 < ShellGh0st> I once got in trouble for insisting a client acknowledge that Java and Javascript are actually different things
15:03 < ShellGh0st> they argued with me for a long time
15:04 < ShellGh0st> "They're very similar. The object model is almost the same."
15:04 < ShellGh0st> uhh
15:05 <@Dagmar> ...b-b-but they both access binary data!
15:05 < ShellGh0st> I kept being like "I know both.  They're very different and just have a similar name."
15:05 < ShellGh0st> Dagmar:  :)
15:06 <@Dagmar> Oh come now.  They're almost indistinguishable from one another.  Just like a cat and a catfish.
15:06 < ShellGh0st> lol
15:07 < ShellGh0st> ham and hamsters are both meat
15:07 <@Dagmar> Exactly!
15:07 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to remember that one, except I may modify it a bit
15:07 <@Dagmar> "That's a ham sandwich and a hamster sandwich taste so much alike."
15:08 <@Dagmar> Sticking a "why" in there someplace
15:08 < ShellGh0st> should we bill the same for slaughtering a pig vs killing and cleaning a hamster, since it's essentially the same thing?
15:10 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to go with charging more for the hamster, since it requires much more delicate work to part them out
16:15 < Evilpig> if you think you're slaughtering me, you'd best rethink that plan
16:24 < ShellGh0st> lol
16:24 < ShellGh0st> Evilpig: but there's no hamsters around...
16:26 < ShellGh0st> The customers have already proven, meat is meat.
16:26 < ShellGh0st> and they're always right
16:28 < ShellGh0st> our earlier discussion: The customers are the meat, the workers are the meat, the middlemen and Salesforce and Oracle and SAP are the great devourers of worlds.
16:29 < ShellGh0st> And they're all feeding on EACH OTHER
16:30 < ShellGh0st> like Customer -> SalesForce -> Model Metrics -> Coder
16:30 < ShellGh0st> trickle down economics
16:30 < ShellGh0st> :)
16:32 < ShellGh0st> I knew my future was bright when Marc Benioff was literally yelling about things I did at DreamForce.
16:32 < Evilpig> damnit I need to get a shower so I can take this kid up to the school dance
16:32 < ShellGh0st> Now I just hang out with him on his yacht with supermodels...
16:33 < ShellGh0st> oh wait, now I just surround myself with pets and Raspberry Pis
16:33 < Evilpig> get you one of those giant star wars lego sets and you too can claim to hang out with "super" models
16:33 < ShellGh0st> lol
16:34 < ShellGh0st> even my ideas are old
16:34 < ShellGh0st> my celebrity crush is Jen Psaki
16:36 < ShellGh0st> Get her on a yacht and talk about geopolitics, dang.
16:56 < Evilpig> might as well show us links to canes you're considering and discuss what the weight is to make sure you can confidently making angry swinging gestures at kids with it
17:22 < Evilpig> alright.  I added colour of magic, going postal, and hogfather to plex earlier and tdarr is nearly done with them.
17:23 < Evilpig> got decent compression too. ~8gb -> ~2gb
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19:29 < ShellGh0st> My work computer want me to reboot for updates every day.  So sweet!
19:30 < ShellGh0st> it's actaully pretty annoying
19:31 < ShellGh0st> Evilpig: Sweet! enjoy the land of Terry Pratchett
19:33 < ShellGh0st> I have a perfectly good Scott Rodell Jian that I keep razor shap, to wave as I yell "Get off my lawn!"
19:34 < ShellGh0st> I feel more like a crazy Paimei than a Clint Eastwood really
19:35 < ShellGh0st> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcLH9p-mKsY
19:35 < PigBot> Scott Rodell - Cutting bamboo with the Hanwei Cutting Jian - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/2z9ypmkj
20:02 <@jb7od> If AMZN is accused by WSJ reporting Amazon Basics lifting ideas from 3rd parties and then undercutting them with semi-similar better priced products, how can anybody be comfortable with AWS? WalMart has their own (can't believe I'm proud of them for something, but there it is).
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20:46 < Evilpig> 66 god damned AA batteries have been brought into this house and I have 8 in my hand after scouring everything
20:55 <@Dagmar> You gotta get some of those lithium ion rechargeables
20:56 <@Dagmar> I've had about half the Ni-Mh batteries I've bought die prematurely because they don't seem to have very good undervolt protection, but all the lithium (deleepow and EBL) have kept working just fine
20:57 < Evilpig> THEY ARE!!!!!!
20:57 < Evilpig> that's what has me furious
20:57 < Evilpig> these are all eneloops
20:58 <@Dagmar> So they're probably _in_ devices
20:58 < Evilpig> I've bought 66 of the fuckers and can account for 12 right now that I just put in the chargers
20:58 <@Dagmar> ..._what_ devices, there's no telling
20:58 < Evilpig> There is a child's room that is about to get stripped of all batteries
20:58 < Evilpig> he sure as shit is not using things that much that need batteries
20:59 <@Dagmar> I was kind of surprised how many things we had that took batteries, mainly the remotes
20:59 < Evilpig> I have three nvidia type 2 shield remotes in the house.  two take 2 aa the other takes 2 aaa
21:00 <@Dagmar> Might wanna make sure the kids understand that they're rechargeables and that they're actually pretty pricey ones at that
21:02 < Evilpig> they definitely know we usually have at least one of these chargers plugged in somewhere
21:03 < Evilpig> I guess I can't be too pissed the last 24 pack of these I bought was in 2021
21:03 < Evilpig> fuuuuu they're still pricey as hell though.  $75 for 24 now
21:03 <@Dagmar> I change 'em out proactively now
21:09 < Evilpig> I know eneloop have a shelf life of up to 10 years but we seem to go through these so fast i'm thinking about getting some of these cheaper ones that only advertise a 2-3yr shelf life
21:39 <@Dagmar> I bought enough to put them in everything plus six spares
21:57 <@Dagmar> "Staffanie"  lol
22:05 < Evilpig> don't you be mocking staffanie.  she's a bad ass, she'll fuck you up
22:08 <@Dagmar> I hate to say it but I can't fault the kid on the records
22:08 <@Dagmar> I know if I found some shit that sounded like that I'd be ringing up Jeremy Dickens and askin if I can open for his next live set
22:37 < Evilpig> fuck CORS.  fuck it in the ass.
22:37 < Evilpig> i'm going to bed
22:37 <@Dagmar> ?
22:38 < Evilpig> someone requested some data out of opendcim and it's easy to get but nto via javascript because of cors
22:38 < Evilpig> I can get it a million other ways, just not javascript which is where it would be most convenient
22:39 < Evilpig> gonna take the dogs out to piss then think about this for a bit and play some more zelda before I crash
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