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07:57 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:58 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: Yes, $318/night for the whole castle shaped house.   Sleeps 16 but only has 3 bedrooms, so they're easily counting all of the couches and such as extra sleeping, or one of the bedroom is packed full of bunks.
07:59 <@Dolemite> still, even if you split it among 3 families you'd each get plenty of space
07:59 <@Dolemite> for only about $100/night
08:03 < Evilpig_> I was looking at our group, that'd be a nice setup
08:28 <@Mirage> Dolemite: nice
08:31 <@Dolemite> Hahaha, never mind.   Cleaning fees and AirBNB "Service Fee" are astronomical.
08:36 < Evilpig_> I didn't even think about that.  I have read that they have been hiding crap like that to make the listing appear cheap then just crushing things
08:52 <@Dolemite> Bah.   Wall Street is so damn fickle.   Ford beats estimates, stock price goes down.
08:52 <@Dolemite> Of course it doesn't help that there was also a Fed rate increase yesterday
08:54 < ShellGh0st> lol @ Kennedy DU rounds Ukraine 
09:22 <@aestetix> Does anyone know contact info for lady merlin?
09:25 <@aestetix> I think I found it, nvm
09:27 < ShellGh0st> @ladymerlin on twitter
09:27 < ShellGh0st> if twitter counts as contact info
09:27 < ShellGh0st> :)
09:28 <@aestetix> it would if I had a twitter
09:28 <@aestetix> but I'm not going to make a twitter account when there are more reasonable ways to contact someone :p
09:36 < Evilpig_> aestetix: I think I have her number
09:36 < Evilpig_> assuming she's hasn't changed it in the last several years
09:36 <@aestetix> Evilpig_: I found an email I think should work
09:36 <@aestetix> and sent an email
09:37 < Evilpig_> ladymerlin@ladymerlin.com ?  that should still be active too
09:37 <@aestetix> yes
11:07 <@Dagmar> ShellGh0st: yeah it kills me the chucklefucker doesn't appear to know the country is home to the biggest source of angry rads on the planet
11:08 <@Dagmar> Those rounds have also been used in the middle east for quite some time now
11:08 < ShellGh0st> @DagI mean he's obviously
11:08 < ShellGh0st> Dagmar: I mean he's obviously a mutant himself
11:08 <@Dagmar> He's obviously mentally disabled?
11:08 < ShellGh0st> Dagmar:  Mutant Kennedy gone wrong
11:08 < ShellGh0st> lol
11:08 <@Dagmar> His ancestors would be ashamed of him besmitching their name
11:08 < ShellGh0st> yeah that too
11:11 <@Dagmar> What little radiation is in them is less of a hazard than the fact that they're great big bullets
11:11 <@Dagmar> You gotta wear protective gear to pick up the pieces, and that's about it
11:20 < ShellGh0st> My step dad is a nuclear physicist and he claims those DU rounds are a little safer than lead.
11:20 < ShellGh0st> and much more effective
11:21 < ShellGh0st> I mean, the fact that wherever we go we just spray lead and DU into the region isn't very nice, but it's nothing new and it is less of a concern in the Ukraine where they're already poisoning and destroying everything anyway
11:22 < ShellGh0st> Just a collapsed burning high-rise building produces a significant amount of envrionmental poisioning
11:22 < ShellGh0st> and they have plenty of those
11:22 <@Dagmar> They _are_ much more effective, and since the uranium that's in them is what's left over after we've extracted all the radioative stuff, it's kind of by definition the least radioactive we can make it
11:23 <@Dagmar> ...and again, they have Chernobyl
11:23 <@Dagmar> The radioactivity in those rounds doesn't even rate
11:23 <@Dagmar> The entire area is already slighly more irradiated
11:24 < ShellGh0st> No, my step dad says the problem is they disintegrate and make dust that produces alpha rays that you then breathe in your lungs
11:24 < ShellGh0st> But that so does burning buildings etc
11:24 <@Dagmar> Yes, it does make radioactive dust you can breathe in, but you pretty much have to be handling shell fragments for that to happen
11:25 < ShellGh0st> or walking near a building that was just levelled with them
11:25 <@Dagmar> It doesn't make _that_ much dust
11:25 <@Dagmar> ...and they're meant to be armor-piercing rounds.  Using them on structures would be a waste
11:26 < ShellGh0st> We used them on a lot of structures in iraq
11:26 < ShellGh0st> and there is a lot of dust
11:26 < ShellGh0st> I think we should keep using them
11:26 < ShellGh0st> so I'm not really arguing
11:27 < ShellGh0st> The reasearch they have done in iraq is fairly extensive, we used millions of those rounds there, and my stepdads point is if you pump millions of rounds of lead into a place, that gonna be bad too
14:20 < dasunt> Kind of curious what the chance of death is from the rest of the dust, and the chance of death from DU.
15:18 <@aestetix> looks like four proud boys got convicted of sedition
15:18 <@aestetix> now they just need to snag the ringleader of all those groups (trump)
16:01 < ShellGh0st> I have done some research on depleted uranium linked mortality and have concluded that if you get hit with a depleted uranium round it will probably kill you. ;)
16:05 < ShellGh0st> All the places that are good to look at depleted uranium linked mortality have too many other environmental factors contributing to birth defects and mortality to really "BREAK OUT" the depleted uranium.
16:07 < ShellGh0st> They all have lots of other types of ammo known to be poisonous being used, burning metal and tanks and cars and buildings everywhere, burning oil depots.
16:08 < ShellGh0st> It turns out if you have a major all out conflict in an area, it really screws up the environment.
16:09 < ShellGh0st> We're shooting them with molten copper shells instead of depleted uranium, out of compassion.
16:09 < ShellGh0st> That's the other armor piercing option I think
16:11 < ShellGh0st> yeah a super hard alloy encased in copper which melts when it hits the armor
16:11 < ShellGh0st> and sprays all over the inside of the tank according to this veteran I talked to
16:13 < ShellGh0st> this guy told me that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dnkiv7ugrw
16:14 < PigBot> Jim Thompson - Episode 1: The Samurai - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/2e44c4by
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