--- Log opened Fri Mar 03 00:00:28 2023 00:56 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: brimstone, NotLarry_, aestetix, @Mirage, @Shadow404, @Dolemite, @_NSAKEY, ZachGibbens, @Catonic, @xray, (+9 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 00:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Dolemite, NotLarry_, NotLarry, brimstone, @xray, @Dagmar, @Shadow404, aestetix, @npcomp, Warcop (+9 more) 01:12 -!- Mirage [~mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:13 -!- Mirage [~mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 01:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 01:31 -!- opticron [~opticron@136.53.58.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:31 -!- ware_ [ware@phneak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:32 -!- ware [ware@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 01:35 -!- opticron [~opticron@136.53.58.220] has joined #se2600 01:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 05:52 < aestetix> https://opensea.io/collection/trump-digital-trading-cards 05:52 < PigBot> 403 05:53 < aestetix> oh wow 05:53 < aestetix> someone is trying to sell a trump NFT for 100,000,000,000,000 ETH 05:53 < aestetix> this has snake oil written all over it 08:38 -!- NotLarry_ [~NotLarry@066-190-177-036.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:38 -!- NotLarry_ [~NotLarry@066-190-177-036.res.spectrum.com] has joined #se2600 09:18 <@Dagmar> Trump's cut of that might actually cover his legal bills 09:58 < Evilpig> Mirage, Dagmar: you've both got *nix boxes with physical raid cards somewhere right? how do those list under /dev/disk/by-id/ ? do they show as ata devices? 09:59 <@Dagmar> I fuckin' will not use those unless they have a battery-backed cache 09:59 <@Dagmar> I have two tho, so let me go look 10:00 <@Dagmar> Without a battery-backed cache, hardware-based RAID is a fucking liability 10:00 < Evilpig> having a discussion for some DOE mandate thing about tracking hard drive serials. we were trying to figure out the best way to get those universally across rhel based stuff and ewwwbuntu 10:01 <@Dagmar> With hardware cards tho you never talk to the individual drives directly without using the manufacturer's utility like hppssa or whatever 10:01 < Evilpig> lshw, hdparm, smartutils might not be available so I was looking to the disk list 10:01 < Evilpig> right, so we were saying if a system has a real raid controller whatever gets presented may have a serial, it might pick a random, there's no way to get a real answer on those 10:02 < Evilpig> on those systesms it might not even know it has a raid controller 10:02 <@Dagmar> Usually hdparm will error with HDIO_GET_IDENTITY on the "drives" it presents 10:02 < Evilpig> IF hdparm is installed, which we're assuming it isn't 10:03 < Evilpig> my proposal is loop the devices in /dev/disk/by-id/ and filter for ata devices and filter out partitions so grep ata | grep -v part 10:04 <@Dagmar> Looking for what 10:04 < Evilpig> then take those devices and read with udevadm info and grep out the id_serial_short 10:04 < Evilpig> that should be universally available depending on what scsi/raid devices look like 10:06 <@Dagmar> Generally the point of these cards is to present something that looks like a real drive 10:07 <@Dagmar> Trying to query the devices directly really is your best bet 10:10 <@Dagmar> I've looked at three machines with two different HP raid cards in them and neither gives any clues in /dev/disk as to the fact that they're not real 10:11 < Evilpig> this just sounds like a good reason not to do this 10:11 < Evilpig> all three of us dislike the request from the start and see the information as mostly useless 10:12 <@Dagmar> Without hdparm there's no way to tell if drives are real or not 10:12 <@Dagmar> ...or *some* way of attempting to send ATA commands 10:17 < Evilpig> It's done. task has been squashed for now 10:17 < Evilpig> I went ahead and added this to the conversation just to get it out of my brain 10:17 < Evilpig> for hd in $(ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ | grep ata | grep -v part | grep -o '/.*' | rev | cut -d/ -f1 | rev); do udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/${hd} | grep ID_SERIAL_SHORT | cut -d= -f2; done 10:41 <@Dagmar> I have the same types of attributes coming back from udevadm info 10:42 <@Dagmar> THere's a model number that comes back starting with PERC_* in one of them 10:42 <@Dagmar> That's the one I couldn't cable around 10:42 <@Dagmar> 03:00.0 RAID bus controller: Broadcom / LSI MegaRAID SAS-3 3108 [Invader] (rev 02) 10:43 <@Dagmar> With the HP controllers ID_MODEL comes back with LOGICAL_VOLUME which is at least uneqivocal 12:05 <@Mirage> Evilpig: both mine are BSD based (TrueNAS) and there isn't a /dev/disk/... 12:18 -!- NotLarry_ [~NotLarry@066-190-177-036.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:19 -!- NotLarry_ [~NotLarry@066-190-177-036.res.spectrum.com] has joined #se2600 12:32 <@Dagmar> *sigh* 12:32 <@Dagmar> So we've got some APs that are (after a LOT of packet capturing) very clearly discriminating against LAA MAC addresses 12:34 <@Dagmar> I've no idea why the guy who set up the wireless stuff decided the APs should have anyuthing resembling a firewall enabled 12:37 <@Dagmar> ...at least he's tracked it down 12:53 -!- opticron [~opticron@136.53.58.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@user/dagmarx] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:26 < Evilpig> just lost another good sized chunk of the roof 13:34 <@Catonic> "Boomer Karen" wants to complain about service and wants to talk to your executive director.... 13:36 <@Catonic> Evilpig: camcontrol has the ability, I think on BSD. 13:37 <@Catonic> camcontrol(8) also has the ability to send SCSI mode page commands and edit SCSI mode pages, perfect for dumping out your list of bad blocks or changing the flag on that obscure page that disables automatic reallocation of good sectors for bad sectors. 13:38 <@Catonic> Which is probably a crapshoot with SMR/Shingled track-at-once drives. 13:38 < Evilpig> Mirage: freebsd isn't on the allowed list here 13:39 <@Catonic> That's really sad because it's good stuff, except for the userland and kernel being married in a way that makes divorce look like a really bad idea. 13:40 < aestetix> https://old.reddit.com/r/books/comments/11h6hg5/i_am_neal_stephenson_scifi_author_geek_and_now/ 13:40 < Evilpig> it probably could be used but there would be alot of paperwork involved. the need for accounting in all the things means that all the tracking tools have to run on the platform for it to be given access 13:40 < PigBot> I am Neal Stephenson, sci-fi author, geek, and [now] sword maker - AMA : books (at old.reddit.com) https://tinyurl.com/2ghqjfw5 13:40 <@Catonic> Also, LSI Logic RAID controllers... if you need those, spring for the biggest RAM size you can get, and prepare to replace the batteries a few times. I'd rather go JBOD these days. It's not fun making LSI RAID cards panic because you ran DBAN and used it as a force-multiplier and it just hung up. 13:44 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@user/dagmarx] has joined #se2600 13:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 13:44 <@Dagmar> Christ the wind is getting serious today 13:46 < Evilpig> yeah it is 13:46 <@Dagmar> I've had the power blink about 30-40 times in the last hour 13:46 < Evilpig> I lost a chunk of roof and some siding 13:46 <@Dagmar> ...and theres' been enough dips that I've already had UPSes tell me to fuck off a couple times 13:47 <@Dagmar> My next door neighbor is missing some gutters and trim (ours are all still on, thankfully) and I just threw away some UPS boxes that had blown about a mile and a half 14:10 <@Mirage> Ya'll are probably getting the front that rolled through here yesterday eve w/ all the wind. 14:10 <@Mirage> Highest gust that I recorded was 70.7 mph 14:12 <@Mirage> Greenhouse didn't fare wall at all and will likely be trashed. Fence between me and the neighbor to the south is currently only being held up by 2 posts, the rest all snapped off at the ground. 14:12 <@Dagmar> Yep. A house on the next street has had a bunch of their fence knocked askew 14:12 < Evilpig> there went my power 14:13 <@Mirage> Granted that fence needed replaced anyway. Whoever the dumbass was that build it used landscape timber for posts vs real posts, so they didn't hold up well. 14:13 <@Dagmar> I keep hearing what I suspect are people's recycling bins getting blown down the street 14:13 < Evilpig> it beeped like it came back on there for a sec 14:14 < Evilpig> I guess I should shut the virthost down 14:26 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@gateway.wilpig.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log opened Fri Mar 03 22:47:21 2023 22:47 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@backdoor.wilpig.com] has joined #se2600 22:47 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 20 nicks [11 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal] 22:47 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 8 secs 22:47 < Evilpig> I have the power!!!! 22:52 <@Dagmar> highly annoying 22:52 <@Dagmar> After the downtime for some reason my bind is coughing up blood on DNSSEC keys 22:53 < Evilpig> so far everything of mine is firing up except my new socks proxy service that I've been tinkering with the past few days 22:53 < Evilpig> I think I need to put in another after clause to make sure the network stack is fully started 22:53 < Evilpig> I just did a restart on the socket and it popped right up 22:54 <@Dagmar> Ah the fucking clock is wrong 22:55 < Evilpig> that'd do it 22:55 <@Dagmar> ...which it can't correct because all the bloody ntp.org zones are signed 22:57 <@Dagmar> I guess I should carefully examine that motherboard to find the coin cell 22:57 <@Dagmar> ...and probably replace some fans 22:57 <@Dagmar> It wasn't incrementing at _all_ while the server was down 22:57 < Evilpig> wanna see some dirty server porn? https://photos.app.goo.gl/WZrpKuFPzvVoAJZ7A 22:57 < PigBot> No Title (at photos.app.goo.gl) 22:57 <@Dagmar> EEuw 22:57 <@Dagmar> I clean mine yearly 22:58 < Evilpig> I figured since I was already in a downtime thanks to the power outage. I'd go ahead and take it outside and really clean it 22:58 <@Dagmar> Bless you for having the sense to do it _outside_ 22:58 < Evilpig> ash would murder me had I done that in the house 22:58 <@Dagmar> I have been cleaning this box but I know I have at least one case fan dead and the PSU fan hasn't worked in years 22:58 <@Dagmar> ...although that fails to really matter much because the thing is just not under any serious load ever 22:59 < Evilpig> these fans, for being that gross are still crazy free spinning 22:59 <@Dagmar> These fans have been running since... umm.. 2006 or so 22:59 <@Dagmar> I think they've had a good run 22:59 <@Dagmar> heh 23:00 < Evilpig> yeah i'd say so 23:00 < Evilpig> this isn't too far off that, it's an accre hand me down 23:00 < Evilpig> i've had it at least 7 years now 23:00 <@Dagmar> This has a decade on that 23:01 <@Dagmar> It's the 1.8Ghz Athlon board I was using for MythTV 23:01 <@Dagmar> Good old Athlon X2! 23:01 < Evilpig> lol 23:02 <@Dagmar> It's a firewall. It doesn't need to do much 23:02 <@Dagmar> Definitely considering that it looks like there's no viable gigabit options here 23:02 <@Dagmar> I'm about to start chewing on some ISPs about that 23:02 <@Dagmar> I mean, I'm literally 10 miles from the state capitol for fuck's sake 23:03 <@Dagmar> AT&T still considers 50Mbps to be a reasonable offering 23:04 <@Dagmar> Fuck. The FCC is aware 23:04 <@Dagmar> You can punch your address in here and see who is available and at what speeds 23:04 <@Dagmar> https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/location-summary/fixed 23:04 < PigBot> HTTPSConnectionPool(host='broadbandmap.fcc.gov', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=10) (at broadbandmap.fcc.gov) https://tinyurl.com/2jkz7g2g 23:05 < Evilpig> I don't trust that map 23:05 <@Dagmar> Well, for me it's showing AT&T offers 50/10 over copper, and Comcast offers 1200/35 over cable 23:05 <@Dagmar> ...and three other shit satellite-based solutions 23:06 <@Dagmar> it shows my parents have symmetric gigglebit available 23:06 < Evilpig> give it my address "367 Belle Valley Drive, Nashville, Tennessee 37209, United States" 23:06 <@Dagmar> @#!$!#@$! 23:06 < Evilpig> granted you can click the dots and see options, but I still find it comical 23:07 <@Dagmar> It shows AT&T copper 100/20, AT&T Fiber 5000/5000, Comcast at 1200/35, and satellite 23:07 < Evilpig> they aren't listing the new verizon 5g offering. 23:07 < Evilpig> yes I can get the 5g copper though 23:07 < Evilpig> err fiber 23:07 < Warcop> that fun cgnat on that 5g 23:08 <@Dagmar> 5G is mobile broadband tho 23:08 <@Dagmar> That's not part of what they're worrying about for "broadband" 23:08 < Evilpig> had some sales drone stop here a couple of weeks ago saying they put in a new tower for home broadband. and they were offering the same as I was getting from att. so I asked her if it was symetrical gigabit and she said she had to get back to me 23:09 < Evilpig> I asked if it was gigabit and she said 'yes!' 23:09 <@Dagmar> Pfft. I call bullshit 23:09 <@Dagmar> https://www.att.com/local/fiber/tennessee/goodlettsville 23:09 < PigBot> AT&T Fiber Internet in Goodlettsville, TN - Fast Gigabit Internet (at www.att.com) https://tinyurl.com/2oy6ope4 23:09 <@Dagmar> Very bullshit 23:09 < Evilpig> then went into a pre-rehearsed bit about they're limiting each site to x number of households to keep the speed up 23:10 < Evilpig> before she left defeated I got her to admit it would be like 300 down 15 up maybe 23:10 < Warcop> curl -sd '{"userInputAddressLine1":"","userInputZip":"","mode":"fullAddress"}' -H "Content-Type: application/json" -X POST https://www.att.com/services/shop/model/ecom/shop/view/unified/qualification/service/CheckAvailabilityRESTService/invokeCheckAvailability | jq .CkavDataBean.UnifiedAddressBean.QualifiedNetworkTransportType 23:10 < PigBot> None (at www.att.com) https://tinyurl.com/y7ff877c 23:10 <@Dagmar> Bah now AT&T's site is claiming they can't find our address 23:11 < Evilpig> I think everything is up enough to bring plex online 23:11 <@Dagmar> I would like to know precisely where the fuck in Goodlettesvile they're talking about 23:12 <@Dagmar> ...because it's not showing up in the FCC map even over by City Hall 23:12 <@Dagmar> I found a shitty apartment complex that they apparently have "Fiber to the premises" for 23:12 < Warcop> use that check above and see it response FTTP-GPON = fiber to premises 23:13 <@Dagmar> Oh the RICH neighborhood on the other side of the park has it 23:13 <@Dagmar> Of course 23:14 <@Dagmar> Oh the apartment complex at hte front of the neighborhood has it 23:15 <@Dagmar> I'm going to find out if this has anything to do with the HOA people 23:15 <@Dagmar> My neighbor across the way who is retired "does battle" with them over being slackers, but if the HOA is the reason I can't get get gigabit fiber, he hasn't seen shit 23:15 <@Dagmar> I will get SO up in their grill 23:16 < Warcop> i put in an order for fiber DIA to my house to get the surveyor out. I didn't sign the contract, but they at least had to come out and discuss the paths to get it. it kind of puts you on the radar when they go back to their office and make a note that some is looking to make their own ISP 23:17 < Warcop> i of course laughed when they told me $45k for the build and conduit 23:18 < Warcop> and thats just the premises pull. they said it would be $75k they would cover on their side 23:18 < Warcop> so nice of them 23:19 <@Dagmar> We had some joker on our doorstep some months back talking about gigabit being available 23:20 < Warcop> well it's either in the ground or on a pole 23:20 <@Dagmar> At the time I'd have rather ripped out my own fingernails, and I felt he was lying (the AT&T logo on his shirt was a giveaway) 23:20 < Evilpig> could one of y'all send a test message to whatever.you.want@wilpig.com 23:20 < Evilpig> don't care what it is. pick something retarded 23:20 < Warcop> are there handholes in the yards, and things strapped on the poles 23:20 <@Dagmar> I've seen ornage bundles being buried as far as the roundabout near the front of the neighborhood 23:20 <@Dagmar> Mail sent 23:21 < Evilpig> thx 23:21 < Evilpig> making sure the mail filter came back up good. everything has been flowing through the secondary mail server for the last several hours 23:22 < Evilpig> nice. it got it and quarantined it as spam 23:22 < Evilpig> but I got warcop's autowarranty 23:23 < Evilpig> and there are already two people on plex. 23:25 < Evilpig> well heck. tdarr updated 23:33 <@Dagmar> A MIRACLE has occurred 23:34 <@Dagmar> I wound up ordering a second set of silicon plugs to keep dust out of the USB ports I'm about to install in my desk 23:34 <@Dagmar> THey were delivered today. 23:34 <@Dagmar> In a padded envelope. 23:34 <@Dagmar> At 3:12pm 23:34 <@Dagmar> How the fucking thing was still on my porch and NOT half a county away right now, I have no iodea 23:34 <@Dagmar> The whole package doesn't even weigh a half an ounce --- Log closed Sat Mar 04 00:00:07 2023