--- Log opened Thu Feb 23 00:00:16 2023 02:24 -!- xray7 [~xray@c-71-236-3-132.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o xray7] by ChanServ 02:24 -!- xray [~xray@c-71-236-3-132.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:24 -!- xray7 is now known as xray 04:38 -!- NotLarry_ [~NotLarry@066-190-177-036.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:38 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@66.190.177.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:50 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@066-190-177-036.res.spectrum.com] has joined #se2600 04:50 -!- NotLarry_ [~NotLarry@066-190-177-036.res.spectrum.com] has joined #se2600 06:32 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:09 < Evilpig> no 07:09 <@Dolemite> I had to wear shorts today. 70 F at 7 AM and a high of 84 F today. Fuck this weather. 07:10 <@Dolemite> It's still FEBRUARY 07:13 <@Dolemite> Now I have to sit around and wait for those damn Californians to wake up and get to work 07:21 < Evilpig> oh I know. it was like 74 last night when I got done with work so I finally went out to troubleshoot my o2 sensor on the truck 07:29 <@Dolemite> Ugh. These 4K upgrades on some of my movies just bring my sabnzbd box to its knees if it has to repair and verify. 07:30 < Evilpig> indeed. do you have the par version that supports multicores at least? 07:30 < Evilpig> the old version would only verify using a single thread and was the literal worst 07:31 <@Dolemite> Not sure. It runs the load up to 9+ on an 8 core VM so I'd think so 07:31 <@Dolemite> SABnzbd version: 3.5.1 07:32 < Evilpig> the version of par2 07:32 < Evilpig> if you goto your /config/ for sabnzbd it will show you if you have the better version or not 07:33 <@Dolemite> yep, says multicore par2 with a checkmark 07:39 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5ycm7VfXg 07:39 < PigBot> "Z2" - Upgraded Homemade Silicon Chips - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yjkcnblo 08:52 < Evilpig> time to see what our plucky detective natasha is up to this week 08:56 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@sprinkle.cloud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@sprinkle.cloud] has joined #se2600 09:06 <@Mirage> bah.. Trying a new method for brisket on a pellet smoker which is to run for 10-12h on 'smoke' (which runs ~155-175 deg), then wrap and kick it up to 250 until the meat gets to 210 to finish it off. Damn smoker keeps going out. Happened at some point overnight and again this morning so far. Really annoying. 09:18 <@Dolemite> Any idea what's causing it to go out? 09:21 <@Mirage> Got some diff pellets this last time that are a little bigger than the ones I normally get, so maybe they don't feed as well w/ the auger? 09:21 <@Mirage> Not that windy, so I don't think that's an issue 09:22 <@Dolemite> maybe they absorbed some moisture? 09:22 <@Mirage> Doubt it, I keep them in a sealed container until I scoop them into the smoker 09:22 <@Dolemite> well before they got to you 09:23 <@Dolemite> I guess the hopper is sealed so that moisture can't get in there? 09:23 <@Mirage> It's not sealed, but there wasn't much in there and it's not that humid out 11:20 <@Mirage> Changed the 'P' setting to feed a little more often and it's stayed lit so far. 11:39 <@Mirage> Using my cousin needing a computer when he comes to stay w/ us as a justification for upgrading from an x470 -> x570. Wanna fully take advantage of the RTX-3060ti which supports PCIe Gen4. The box I had for him 4 years ago is an FX socket that was still decent at the time, but a bit aged at this point. 11:49 <@Dolemite> heh, my upgrade was to add a couple of used Lenovo SFFs running Ryzen5 APUs as Tdarr nodes. 11:49 <@Dolemite> but using VAAPI hwaccel was so much easier than futzing with NVidia CUDA libraries 11:50 <@Dolemite> Got a roughly 30x speed over CPU encoding 13:57 < dasunt> I have a linux admin tell me that extending a disk and resizing a partition to expand a volume group for lvm is a bad idea. 13:58 < dasunt> Does anyone know what they are talking about? 14:00 < Evilpig> he doesn't know how to do it so it's a bad idea 14:00 < Evilpig> unless he thinks you're wanting to do something crazy like insert a second disk and extend a partition across disks like some kind of dipshit 14:01 < dasunt> I have no fucking clue what he's talking about. 14:06 < dasunt> Could he be extending a vg by using a raw disk? 14:06 < Evilpig> that's possible, is it a virtual or physical system? 14:06 < Evilpig> I've extended volumes across disks on virtual systems and thought nothing of it. the storage was ont eh same backend so I didn't care 14:07 < Evilpig> I wouldn't do that with a physical system though 14:07 < dasunt> virtual. 14:07 < dasunt> But he was mentioning that it wouldn't show the disk was in use. There's some fuckwittery going on. 14:08 <@Dagmar> Fuckin' comcast 14:08 < Evilpig> do you have access to run vgs or lvs to see what's going on? 14:12 < dasunt> Nope. They just avoid doing it now, instead they add a new disk and mount it as a new partition, I think. 14:14 < dasunt> They are pretty defensive about this, so I dropped it. The older I get, the more I enjoy the sort of people who can actually disagree, talk about it, and figure out who is mistaken. 14:15 <@Dagmar> dasunt: The real answer is that you're not actually talking to a Linux admin 14:15 <@Dagmar> There's no reason someone can't do exactly that, although it's sometimes a PITA to get the guest to notice the disk has changed 14:16 <@Dagmar> If they dropped a physical volume on a raw disk, that's their mistake, but it still won't affect the process much 14:19 < dasunt> Dagmar: That's another theory - somehow they extend the partition, but don't tell the OS to rescan the partition table, or something. 14:20 <@Dagmar> I usually have to fight with libvirt a bit 14:20 < Evilpig> he could have a point if he was talking about extending the space on an existing virtual disk and they didn't give the entire disk to lvm but partitioned it as /boot and the lvm bits 14:20 <@Dagmar> I found a virsh command to make it notice the change right away once 14:21 < Evilpig> in that case you'd be messing with the partition tables to extend the lvm and I would say screw that and just add another virtual disk and be done with it. extend to that new disk and go on 14:22 <@Dagmar> Normally I just make the virtual disk larger and then stab qemu in the face a few times, then do the rescan-scsi-bus dance on the virtual so it notices the disks changed size, then I just edit the partition table and slap pvresize 14:22 <@Dagmar> Well, partprobe/kpartx before pvresize 14:22 < Evilpig> screw messing with the partition table. just add a disk that you can give entirely to lvm and be done with it. 14:22 < dasunt> Evilpig: Perhaps. In that situation, I do find it annoying to delete/recreate the partition with a different size. 14:23 < dasunt> There may be a better way. 14:23 < Evilpig> add disk. pvadd. lvextend, done 14:23 <@Dagmar> It's easy unless someone did something wacky like tried to put /boot on the end of the disk 14:23 < Evilpig> then next time you need to grow, you just resize the new disk. pvresize and done 14:24 < dasunt> For some reason, the new disk they add is /dev/sde as well. IDK. 14:24 <@Dagmar> So you'll resize the _second_ disk but not hte first? 14:24 < Evilpig> the second disk is only lvm. no partition fumbling 14:25 <@Dagmar> Best of luck when the SAN guys try to reclaim "lost" disk space 14:25 < dasunt> Evilpig: I think they are against that, because my impression is that they don't see a partition table and thus overwrite the disk. 14:25 < Evilpig> in my system here it's a file, just like with esx i'm not giving it raw disk. it's getting a vsx or whatever vmware calls their disk files 14:25 <@Dagmar> SAN people are somewhat notorious for assuming a slice is free because they don't see a partition 14:27 < Evilpig> PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree 14:27 < Evilpig> /dev/sda2 cl_hosting8 lvm2 a-- <31.00g 2.07g 14:27 < Evilpig> /dev/sdb vg_swap lvm2 a-- <10.00g <5.00g 14:27 < Evilpig> /dev/sdc vg_backup lvm2 a-- <500.00g 0 14:27 < Evilpig> /dev/sdd vg_hosting_torrents lvm2 a-- 1.33t 1020.00m 14:27 < Evilpig> /dev/sde vg_hosting7_home lvm2 a-- <300.00g <100.00g 14:27 < Evilpig> /dev/sdf vg_opt lvm2 a-- <100.00g <20.00g 14:27 < Evilpig> my hosting system. you can tell what disks are just lvm. when i need to expand backup for whatever reason I just expand the disk file and the resize the volume to the new space 14:27 <@Dagmar> Looks like you have a bunch of one-member volume groups 14:28 < Evilpig> the reason swap is in there is it points to a flash storage pool 14:28 < Evilpig> they used to be spanned but i've consolidated over the years 14:28 < Evilpig> expand, contract, etc 14:28 < Evilpig> thsoe are all ext4 so I can still shrink if necessary unlike xfs 14:30 <@Dagmar> /dev/md127 storage02r5 lvm2 a-- <8.19t <927.18g 14:30 <@Dagmar> /dev/md64 storage01r5 lvm2 a-- <10.92t <4.41t 14:30 <@Dagmar> /dev/nvme0n1p3 vmhost lvm2 a-- <465.01g <449.01g 14:30 <@Dagmar> /dev/sda1 vmhostdata lvm2 a-- <931.51g <923.51g 14:30 <@Dagmar> THe _sole_ reason I've got two volume groups for those raid pairs has to do with how I build them up by adding a couple disks at a time 14:32 < dasunt> I thinkk about 99% of the systems I personally set up don't use lvm at all, but that's more due to them being temporary test systems of a few tens of gigs. 14:33 < Evilpig> lvm really does make volume management so much easier, espeically for virtuals 14:33 < dasunt> I don't disagree, I just have a high attrition rate. 14:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah the lkist of logical volumes I have in those two storage0?r5 vg's is muuuch longer 14:34 < dasunt> It's one command for me to spin up a new VM. 14:34 <@Dagmar> Much easier than doing cow and praying I don't accidentally run over 14:34 < dasunt> Which, I think, ironically, is better than where I work. 14:35 < Evilpig> on the topic of storage my new 1TB microsd is out in the mailbox 14:35 < Evilpig> time to upgrade the switch 14:38 < dasunt> With my yearly bonus, I should upgrade some of my systems. 14:39 < Evilpig> you're welcome to donate a pair of 4TB ssd's to me. I won't say no 14:41 <@Dolemite> I'll take some of those, too. Or any larger size. 14:41 <@Dolemite> I need at least 2 more 4 TB to make another storage pool in my TrueNAS box. 14:42 < Evilpig> back of the line Dolemite. I climbed on this bus first, wait your turn 14:44 <@Dolemite> Well it is a short bus 14:45 < dasunt> I need to get up to about 2TB SSDs. 14:45 <@Dolemite> my last upgrade was a pair of 12 TB drives that I have in a mirrored pair 14:46 < dasunt> I think I may make myself another mini-server. 14:46 <@Dolemite> but that was before I got a spare box to turn into a TrueNAS server 14:46 <@Dolemite> so now I'll just make pools of 4 drives each and when I need to expand, just replace all the drives in the pool with larger ones 14:46 < dasunt> Due to the size of my house, I don't have a good spot to put noisy boxes. I do want a "real" NAS though. 14:47 <@Dolemite> I have a "crawlspace" (about 7' tall) and a concrete pad under the stairs next to the furnace. That's where all of my boxes live, plus it is underground on 3 sides so it has natural cooling. 14:48 < dasunt> Nice. 14:48 <@Dolemite> I need to reorganize it, though. It has gotten quite untidy. 14:48 < dasunt> I have a three season front porch for my servers. 14:50 < dasunt> So for the most part, it's all on my laptop, except for a mini-PC that I use as a test environment. In a way, I don't mind the lack of power and memory in the mini-server - it makes it "tight" enough that I'll find bad configs that chew up memory and CPU. 15:31 < Evilpig> dasunt: I've got a little minipc on my desk that definitely isn't lacking power or memory. it's got 64G of ram and 20core i7 I think. it's a hoss 15:31 < Evilpig> it's currently running half a dozen vms for things I've got testing 15:32 < Evilpig> getting secure boot enabled under vmware workstation 16 was WAY harder than it should have been. for whatever dumbfuck reason vmware made it where if you pick linux as the guest OS it won't let you enable secure boot. you have to edit the config file and add the parameter by hand 15:33 <@Dagmar> Dumbfuckerty is the reason 15:33 < Evilpig> I know there is no good reason. I was irritated. I thought about just leaving it set as windows which enabled it, but I didn't know what kind of shenanigans that would cause to the drive images 15:34 < Evilpig> like would it change encoding or something equally retarded 15:36 <@Dagmar> Vmware clearly still thinks they don't have any competition 15:38 < dasunt> Evilpig: How loud is it? 15:38 < Evilpig> I hear it when the fan kicks up 15:38 < Evilpig> but otherwise I don't hear it over the fan I have on in the room 15:38 < dasunt> Hmmmm. 15:38 < Evilpig> want me to shoot a quick video? 15:39 < dasunt> What's the model/type of PC? 15:40 < Evilpig> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/optiplex-7000-micro/spd/optiplex-7000-micro/s108do7000mffus 15:40 < PigBot> OptiPlex 7000 Micro Form Factor (at www.dell.com) https://tinyurl.com/2qutfgmo 15:40 < Evilpig> https://photos.app.goo.gl/QbvnStKTqXULo32j9 15:40 < PigBot> No Title (at photos.app.goo.gl) 15:41 < Evilpig> I probably should have said something because the background noise makes it sound like a wind tunnel in here 15:41 < dasunt> Thanks. 15:41 < dasunt> Oh, I've heard about those optiplex micros. 15:42 < Evilpig> it really is quiet though, and I have a vm on there that is definitely working 8 of the cores like a beast 15:42 < dasunt> Weirdly, I picked up an old intel NUC the other day (i3, IIRC), and jebus, does it feel slow. Not sure why. 15:43 < dasunt> I just picked it up because it was $50, and hey, retroarch box. 15:44 < Evilpig> I was telling Dolemite how surprised I was at the difference between my desktop i5 4th gen and this i7 12th gen 15:47 < dasunt> I'm not usually someone who notices though. Okay, had to check - i3-4010U. 15:49 < dasunt> So pretty old i3. 4th gen, isn't that? 15:58 <@Dagmar> The beelinks are a bit smaller htan that 15:58 <@Dagmar> They're like 4x4x1,5 15:59 <@Dagmar> Personally I'm fine wiht mid-towers 15:59 <@Dagmar> With virtualization you really only need the one 16:01 <@Dagmar> Oh... that midtower I got from Antec that has the sound dampening definitely does that 16:02 <@Dagmar> It's very quiet indeed 16:02 <@Dagmar> HEAVY AS FUCK tho with ten drives inside 16:02 <@Dagmar> This weekend I'm going to set up all the monitoring for it so I can have some pretty grapgs 16:02 <@Dagmar> er graphs 16:03 <@Dagmar> Maybe the next kernel package will support the damn sensor chip 16:18 < dasunt> Those beelinks look cute. 16:38 <@Dagmar> They work quite well and they're cheap 19:46 -!- xray [~xray@c-71-236-3-132.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 19:47 -!- xray [~xray@c-71-236-3-132.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o xray] by ChanServ --- Log closed Fri Feb 24 00:00:17 2023