--- Log opened Fri Jan 27 00:00:42 2023
06:00 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:26  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:42 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSOJpRp-x4
06:42 < PigBot> Meta Lifts Trump's Facebook and Instagram Ban & Missouri Plans to Ban CRT | The Daily Show - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/2gbno2rf
06:43 <@Dolemite> I'm really enjoying these guest hosts on TDS
07:47 < Evilpig> Dolemite: your ears burning?
07:48 <@Dolemite> They should be.   My ticket finally got sent back to your group.
07:49 <@Dolemite> Poor Tier 2 dude contacted me this morning and quickly realized I knew way more about how it should work then he did.  He was trying to follow his script but I kept answering that and the next question that he hadn't asked yet.
07:53 < Evilpig> fought with this stupid windows install up til almost 1 this morning
07:53 < Evilpig> but it's finally acceptable
07:54 < Evilpig> the only goofy wtf is going on thing is the time.  it keeps drifting like crazy.  it currently thinks it's 12:16a
07:54 < Evilpig> and ntp is set and if I force a sync it is fine
07:54 <@Dolemite> Sounds like a bad clock chip, though
07:55 < Evilpig> the only thing that's changed in the computer is the hard drive though
07:56 < Evilpig> there is the answer
07:57 < Evilpig> the windows time service is stopped
08:51 <@Dolemite> yay, I can login with my PIV again
09:02 < Evilpig> done fiddling with this desktop for now.  at lunch i'll power it off and swap these drives around permanently.  went ahead and ordered a tpm module for it that will be here tomorrow as well
09:07 < Evilpig> make sure everyone tells NotLarry_ happy birfday today
09:10 <@Dolemite> Text sent
09:32 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Which CPU do you have?  I discovered on mine that in the bios I had to enable TPM, then was allowed to select which TPM device to use
09:33 <@Mirage> As Dagmar pointed out, and I can verify, the newer Ryzen chips have a built-in TPM
09:34 <@Mirage> I didn't notice it on the 2700, but can verify for the 3700 and 5700
09:35 < Evilpig> i5 4430
09:36 < Evilpig> it's old as shit and definitely does not have tpm
09:37 < Evilpig> from what I read it would need to be a gen7 or newer to have tpm built in
09:42 < Evilpig> fuckin' cat
09:43 < Evilpig> since I have my desktop taken apart swapping this drive out, she's been evicted from her perch
09:43 < Evilpig> so she's instead laying on top of the docking station/port replicator for my laptop
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17:45 <@Dagmar> The 3700X has it, and I don't know why a 2700 wouldn't
17:45 <@Dagmar> If you see fTPM mentioned in the firmware settings, that's it
18:02 <@Dagmar> Looks like it's partly to do with the motherboard firmware, so I suspect maybe not all boards will have the proper support
18:03 <@Dagmar> ...and before anyone gets "that" idea, no there is definitely no discrete TPM in this machine or my vmhost
18:03 <@Dagmar> They have the socket for them, which is empty
18:08 <@Dagmar> Ah... they came in with AM4
18:08 <@Dagmar> So... yeah that 2700 should have it
18:09 <@Dagmar> Intel calls theirs PTT
18:09 <@Dagmar> Skylake (6th gen) are supposed to all have it
18:09 <@Dagmar> https://helgeklein.com/blog/how-to-check-windows-tpm-status-enable-cpu-amd-ftpm-intel-ptt/
18:09 < PigBot> How to Check the TPM Status & Enable the CPU's fTPM/PTT • Helge Klein (at helgeklein.com) https://tinyurl.com/2g8xc8fr
18:12 < Evilpig> I think there are 6th and 7th gen i5's in the kids' computers i'll reboot one later and poke around in the bios and see
18:12 <@Dagmar> That page has links to MS' list of supported CPUs
18:15 < Evilpig> on tha tlist of CPUs nothing older than an 8th gen has native support
18:15 < Evilpig> i5-8xxx
18:15 < Evilpig> both of their desktops are i5-6500s
18:15 < Evilpig> big negative to them
19:37 <@Dagmar> Well, at least hardware is cheap again for the moment
19:49 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I'm not gonna yank the 5700x back out and stick the old 2700 in to check, but I never noticed it until I upgraded my CPU.
19:55 <@Mirage> Also, I'm not quite sure why I would have looked up which TPM I needed for my board and ordered one if there was already one provided by the CPU
19:55 <@Dagmar> Probably for the same reason I was shopping hardware before Win11
19:55 <@Dagmar> I didn't know fTPM was a thing
19:56 <@Dagmar> ALl three of the boards here that have fTPM-bearing CPUs have a socket for a discrete TPM addon.  All are empty
19:57 <@Mirage> I found it after the upgrade when I was setting up the bios again afterward because the board reset itself to defaults when it detected the change
21:31 <@eryc> heh, i just went through this earlier today enabling tpm
21:44 <@Dagmar> Okay.  I know Lockwood & Co just dropped but those three characters (not the actors) have been in something else I've seen but I can't seem to get it
21:44 <@Dagmar> Was it Locke & Key or Umbrella Academy?  I 
21:44 <@Dagmar> *think* George was actually a ghost in whatever it was
22:12 < Evilpig> I haven't started that just yet but i'll see
22:13 < Evilpig> i'm sure you're right.  there was a ghost in locke and key from the kid that went through the ghost door
22:13 <@Dagmar> Well, there's three of them.  Two boys and a girl, who were ghost hunters
22:13 <@Dagmar> ...and now Lockwood & co is out and I"m pretty sure it's them
22:14 <@Dagmar> I have damn well seen them in _something_ collaborating with whoever the protagonists were
22:14 < Evilpig> I remember them.  those ghost hunters were also in .....  that other show
22:15 < Evilpig> doom patrol!
22:15 <@Dagmar> THey were in Doom Patrol?
22:15 <@Dagmar> Could be
22:16 < Evilpig> one episode where they showed up to help the chick
22:17 < Evilpig> https://doompatrol.fandom.com/wiki/Dead_Boy_Detectives
22:17 < PigBot> Dead Boy Detectives | Doom Patrol Wiki | Fandom (at doompatrol.fandom.com) https://tinyurl.com/2efkayrv
22:17 < Evilpig> if not the same folks, definitely the same feel
22:18 <@Dagmar> Yeah they were just enough of a knockoff to not be an obvious copy 
22:18 < Evilpig> taking the dogs out and crashing. 
22:18 <@Dagmar> kk
22:18 <@Dagmar> Thanks
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