--- Log opened Fri Nov 18 00:00:34 2022
00:45 < dasunt> Oh, twitter imploded again.
05:28 < aestetix> I love waking up every morning to news of new drama elon musk has caused
05:29 < aestetix> With Trump it was fucking scary because he was president and could start a nuclear war
05:29 < aestetix> But with Elon Musk, everything that he does threatens to take down twitter, which I already hate
06:54 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I love waking up to drama that does NOT affect my TSLA stock
06:55 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:54 < Evilpig> WHOA!  now where the fuck is it?
07:54 < Evilpig> also...  "good afternoon"
07:56 <@Dolemite> TSLA -16.37% over the past 30 days
07:56 <@Dolemite> Meanwhile, my F (Ford) stock is +16.17% over the past 30 days
07:57 <@Dolemite> And it's got Chris Farley's cousin as the CEO.   I mean, seriously.  TOMMY BOY IS RUNNING THE COMPANY.
07:58 < Evilpig> Hey Wilbur,
07:58 < Evilpig>   Emily says the offer letter went out today.  We need to go ahead and get equipment ordered, so you will have it on the day you start.  What platform (macOS, Windows, or maybe even Linux – which I wouldn’t suggest) do you use for primary business computing?  Test equipment scenarios to run VM’s, etc?
07:58 < Evilpig>  
07:58 < Evilpig> We can put a call together as well to discuss if you’d like.
07:59 <@Dolemite> HELLZ YEAH
07:59 < Evilpig> I don't have it yet, but i'm definitely looking for it
07:59 <@Dolemite> Go with Windows
07:59 <@Dolemite> Because you will need to use your HSPD-12 badge for a lot of stuff and the app support is better, especially SecureCRT
08:00 <@Dolemite> Although the antivaxxers on your new team use MacOS
08:00 <@Dolemite> So there's that.  LOL
08:01 < Evilpig> I'm fine in both, i've used mac as my daily driver for nearly the last decade now
08:01 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but not with an HSPD-12 badge
08:01 < Evilpig> true
08:01 <@Dolemite> Anywho, you'll be the team to support it as it is.  heh
08:02 <@Dolemite> I just know that the MacOS machines don't work as seamlessly with the single sign-on that everything is moving to
08:02 <@Dolemite> As for the letter, I believe it has a workflow to go from HR to the Lab Director for digital signature.   Was your original offer letter signed?
08:02 < Evilpig> I like that aspect.  heh
08:03 < Evilpig> we had to make security changes at vumc because of windows just signing people into shit with single sign on
08:03 < Evilpig> yeah it was through docusign or something like that
08:03 <@Dolemite> That's called a poorly configured application.   You can send a parameter in the AuthN request that says to require re-authentication even if they already have a session.
08:04 < Evilpig> they used that as justification to force the use of alternate logins for high security areas.  
08:04 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I have so many accounts it's not funny.   Service accounts, escalation accounts, and different protection zone accounts.
08:06 <@Dagmar> Different scopes, different requirements
08:08 < Evilpig> https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/632856   as much as I dislike will ferrel, I was amused
08:08 < PigBot> Spirited (2022) — The Movie Database (TMDB) (at www.themoviedb.org) https://tinyurl.com/2jook7og
08:08 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that's in my Radarr list.   I need to see why it hasn't grabbed, yet.
08:09 < Evilpig> I just finished it hence the "good afternoon"  heh
08:09 < aestetix> question for you guys actually
08:09 < aestetix> without spoilers
08:10 < aestetix> has anyone seen Terrifier 2?
08:10 < Evilpig> yes
08:10 <@Dolemite> never heard of it
08:10 < aestetix> I got it, I haven't watched it yet. I heard it's really really scary
08:10 < aestetix> but I watched Terrifier 1 and it was not that bad
08:10 < Evilpig> It is a little scary, definitely gory
08:10 < aestetix> a typical saw ripoff
08:10 < Evilpig> I wouldn't call it a saw ripoff, it's another animal
08:10 < aestetix> Evilpig: is it more scary/gory than the first one?
08:10 < Evilpig> yeah, I enjoyed it more than the first
08:10 < aestetix> oh ok
08:11 < aestetix> I also watched the all hallows eve movies
08:11 < Evilpig> and I'm highly amused that bloodydisgusting.com or whwatever submitted it for an oscar
08:11 < aestetix> those were pretty good
08:11 < aestetix> well one of my secret pleasures is bad horror movies
08:11 < Evilpig> https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3738565/we-have-officially-submitted-terrifier-2-for-oscar-consideration-because-its-too-funny-not-to/
08:11 < PigBot> We Have Officially Submitted ‘Terrifier 2’ for Oscar Consideration Because It's Too Funny Not To - Bloody Disgusting (at bloody-disgusting.com) https://tinyurl.com/2qe77zm8
08:11 < Evilpig> I have a hard time classifying that as a bad horror movie
08:12 < Evilpig> saw... bad.  this isn't that
08:12 < aestetix> what about the first one
08:12 < aestetix> There's just something about bad things happening to people who deserve it
08:12 < Evilpig> having art the clown not talk just does something, and with the addition of another killer it was genuinely creepy at times
08:12 < aestetix> NO SPOILERS
08:13 < Evilpig> that's as close as I could get without putting the real spoilers in there
08:13 < aestetix> ok
08:13 < aestetix> what's that other movie that is good
08:13 < aestetix> the collector
08:13 < aestetix> have you seen that?
08:14 < Evilpig> I have and I thought it was a bit of a slog
08:14 < aestetix> maybe the sequel was good, one of them was
08:14 < aestetix> but ok I will try terrifier 2 maybe this weekend
08:14 < Evilpig> definitely.  I really did enjoy it
08:23 <@Dolemite> Ugh.   RCL started their Black Friday sale on the cruise add-ons this morning, but now it's down for maintenance.
08:23 <@Dolemite> Waiting to buy the unlimited dining package for our cruises next year.
08:25 <@Dolemite> https://gizmodo.com/missing-money-crypto-houses-and-emoji-payments-heres-1849797923
08:25 < PigBot> 9 Most Craziest Revelations From FTX's Bankruptcy Filing (at gizmodo.com) https://tinyurl.com/2kyy8drx
08:25 <@Dolemite> “Never in my career have I seen such a complete failure of corporate controls and such a complete absence of trustworthy financial information as occurred here,” wrote Ray in his filing. “This situation is unprecedented.”
08:26 <@Dolemite> So says the person that presided over the restructuring of Enron.  LOL
08:31 <@Dolemite> Damn.   Just damn.   This is some bonkers shit.
08:31 <@Dagmar> Oh dude he ain't kidding
08:32 <@Dagmar> What they did wrong has nothing to do with crypto, and everything to do with just plain fraud and abuse
08:32 <@Dolemite> Payment approvals by Emoji.   No roster of current employees.   No list of bank accounts and assets.  No cash management system.
08:32 <@Dolemite> Yep, but it's going to put a giant black eye on every company associated with crypto
08:32 <@Dolemite> and the calls for regulation will intensify
08:34 <@Dagmar> It's looking like their research arm was ginning up new coins with ~$5m capital, then airdropping 10% of them to get things moving and keeping the rest for themselves, and then buying up their own new coins to drive the price up so they could evaluate their remaining issued coins they kept at $30M, which they would then use as collateral
08:34 <@Dagmar> Can't sell them if there's a margin call, because that would crash the coin's value to zero because of the near complete lack of liquidity
08:34 <@Dagmar> That's just insanely stupid
08:34 <@Dolemite> Wow, we've evolved to the point that ponzi schemes can feed themselves
08:35 < Evilpig> https://capture.dropbox.com/DvHKVXqC1sJovDjs
08:35 < PigBot> Dropbox Capture (at capture.dropbox.com) https://tinyurl.com/2mh7nn55
08:35 <@Dagmar> That's not a ponzi scheme, it's just a shitcoin
08:35 <@Dolemite> pump and dump
08:35 <@Dagmar> Nope. 
08:35 <@Dolemite> or in this case, pump and revalue
08:35 <@Dagmar> No dump.
08:35 <@Dagmar> They literally could not dump.
08:35 <@Dagmar> ...but it gets better
08:35 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: W00t!
08:36 <@Dagmar> FTX actually issued their own token (FTT)
08:36 <@Dagmar> ...which they sold to Alameda
08:36 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Lemme know your start date once you know it
08:37 <@Dagmar> ...which were paid for with funds ALameda borrowed from FTX using the shitcoins as collateral
08:37 < Evilpig> will do
08:37 <@Dagmar> ...and THEN they started dipping into customer funds to pay for this shit, which would be straight up illegal if they were a bank (but they're not a bank).
08:37 <@Dagmar> Also, they're in the fucking Bahamas
08:38 <@Dagmar> So... good luck passing regulation for companies in other countries
08:39 <@Dagmar> So like, none of the problem they had involved crypto.  Almost all of it would already be illegal in the US
08:39 <@Dagmar> Double dipping, fraud, etc
08:40 <@Dagmar> Embezzlement, theft and so on
08:40 <@Dolemite> Yeah, it was just shitty business practices because they put dipshits in charge
08:40 <@Dagmar> Sircle: Then you can go pester the person who made that video what to do
08:57 <@Dolemite> Ah, I do have Spirited and Disenchanted already.   Notifications just failed, apparently.
08:58 <@Dolemite> Tdarr is already chugging away on them
08:58  * Evilpig hugs tdarr
08:59 < Evilpig> once you get it set up it really is wonderful
08:59 <@Dolemite> yes it is
08:59 < Evilpig> Mirage: you could get it to work with your script too or use hardware encoding support just to automate things
09:00 <@Dolemite> But the software encoding really gets you the reduced size.   At least with my older NVidia card that was the case.
09:00 < Evilpig> hardware encoding is about speed, not size
09:01 <@Dolemite> yeah but I guess their built in profile didn't squeeze it down as much
09:37 < Evilpig> the question of the day is do I pick up the new pokemon today or not?
09:46 <@Dolemite> Gotta catch 'em all
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11:30 <@Mirage> https://bit.ly/3TQfEgr
11:30 < PigBot> World's largest traffic experiment being conducted in Nashville along I-24 | WZTV (at bit.ly) 
11:30 <@Mirage> I'm sure whatever they're paying the drivers for this, it isn't nearly enough.
11:31 <@Dagmar> They should sue for hazard pay
11:32 <@Dagmar> Truckers know what works and do it on the regular
11:32 <@Dagmar> Anytime you see a trucker being _really_ slow to catch up to evhicles in front of them in stop & go traffic, and it looks like they're trying to make the absolute _minimum_ of speed changes, they're trying to smooth out the traffic to stop taht shit
11:33 <@Dagmar> Because of the way people react, if you stomp on your brakes at 80mph and slow your car to 65 so you don't get a ticket, in a few minutes about a mile back, traffic will _stop_
11:33 <@Dagmar> Because each successive driver takes just a little longer to hit their brakes, so they have to hit their brakes _more_ to avoid a collision
11:34 <@Dagmar> This literally always ends with someone having to slow to a complete stop
11:34 <@Dagmar> The only way it doesn't happen is if there's people in between who are _trying_ to drive at a steadier pace
11:35 <@Dagmar> But that can't happen here because everyone fucking tailgates
11:35 < oddball> That and semis tend to be stick shifts.  If you're in stop and go traffic, waiting a little bit so you can travel further before having to stop/restop is just easier.
11:36 <@Dagmar> The moment you have sufficient space in front of you so that you can moderate your speed changes, some motherfucker will see it as a sign of weakness and jump in there so they can continue pretending they're a member of NASCAR
11:36 <@Dagmar> ...which is why the people in those cars that will be doing _exactly_ that should get hazard pay
11:36 <@Mirage> I think everyone w/ any common sense who's driven in Nashville rush-hr traffic realises all that.
11:36 <@Dagmar> What we're going to see happen is the AI will announce that people on I-24 shouldn't have fucking drivers licences
11:38 < oddball> Heh... that's fair.  I'm happier driving twice as long at the new place to the office, because I don't have to deal with 24.
11:38 <@Mirage> I always said that traffic would be better if they would keep all police cars away from the overpasses during rush hour.  Why morons slam on their brakes when they see a cop on an overpass that has zero chance of coming after them.
11:39 <@Mirage> The lunacy of nashville drivers always drove me crazy.  
11:39 < oddball> It's one thing to lift off and slow down to closer to the speed limit, but the assholes that decide that they need to do 40 on the interstate when they see a cop...
11:40 <@Dolemite> Somebody spills a slushie or a 12 oz bottle of water on the road and it gets 10x worse
11:40 <@Mirage> I'm still amazed that I was the only one there in all those years working outside service at LaserPlus who avoided being in a wreck
12:44 <@Dagmar> Yeah so this is cool
12:45 <@Dagmar> Bandwidth between location A and B appears to be getting throttled by Comcat
12:45 <@Dagmar> A -> my house: 20Mb/s
12:45 <@Dagmar> er... 28MB/s
12:45 <@Dagmar> A <- my house ~1.4Mb/s (because fucking comcast)
12:46 <@Dagmar> B -> my house: 26Mb/s
12:46 <@Dagmar> B <- my house: (still shit slow_
12:47 <@Dagmar> A -> B 15Mb/s
12:47 <@Dagmar> B -> A 12Mb/s
12:47 <@Dagmar> er MB in all cases
12:47 <@Dagmar> A being in fucking Tierpoint, there's just _no way_ there should be more throughput to my fuckin' house on Comcast coax than there is to the office on Comcast Fiber
12:48 <@Dagmar> I thought this was a problem with the VPN between the two sites but apparently it's fuckin' not
12:48 < Evilpig> weird.  you'd expect the path to be the same between your house and another location but going reverse is throttled?  traceroute from both sides?  what application are you using the speed test?
12:48 <@Dagmar> scp
12:49 <@Dagmar> Remember I'm not on a business class connection at home, so my upstream is shit
12:49 < Evilpig> I wouldn't think they'd be shaping scp, have you run a traceroute to see if you're getting some kinda shit route?  packet loss on one of the hops?
12:49 < Evilpig> valid point
12:50 <@Dagmar> The issue is that a very fancy datacenter with multi-ASN BGP at the border that regularly does quite a bit of traffic is somehow unable to efficiently communicate with a fiber connection in Murfressboro as well
12:50 < Evilpig> damn mailman.  I had a feeling I should have stopped down at hte office on my way in
12:50 <@Dagmar> Here I thought something was buggered with the VPN
12:50 <@Dagmar> ...but no... it looks like this is probably Comcast fucking around
12:51 <@Dagmar> I get teh same fucking speed results if I use the VPN tunnel between A & B, and if I *go outside the tunnel* and back in through a high port ssh tunnel
12:51 <@Dagmar> I'm going to take a break while I let my blood pressure go down, adn then I'm going to do some testing across the two pairs of firewalls, since I've got ssh tunnels set up for all of themn
13:04 <@Mirage> blah.  I was realy hoping to at least get rid of Boebert since MTG had already won.  
13:04 <@Dolemite> yeah, the stupid is strong with their constituency
13:04 <@Dolemite> same with Gaetz
13:06 <@Mirage> Will have to see how things play out, but I'll probably be voting straight Dem in the next election, which is what I did this time for the first time ever.
13:06 <@Dolemite> I still got some I sprinkled in there this time
13:06 <@Dolemite> The races with only one choice get no votes from me
13:07 <@Dolemite> Of course, nobody that I voted for in this past election won
13:07 <@Mirage> Trump really needs to just split off from the party and create his own so that we can get back to normal political BS vs the complete shitshow it's been since 2016
13:07 <@Dolemite> But at least I did my civic duty of recording that I definitely didn't want any of the fuckers in office that made it
13:08 <@Dolemite> Mirage: He hasn't finished destroying the Republican Party yet
13:08 <@Mirage> RNC needs to kick him out
13:08 < Evilpig> at least with trump in the gop he's helping to split their money up so they can't bankroll anyone as strongly as they otherwise would have
14:01 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAINYs3Lgss&ab_channel=NBCNews
14:01 < PigBot> LIVE: Justice Dept. Holds News Conference As Special Counsel Appointed In Trump Probe | NBC News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/2hx28lyl
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