--- Log opened Tue Nov 01 00:00:07 2022
07:16 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: You heard back on your negotiations of the price for selling your pee?
07:16 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:16 < Evilpig> sorta?
07:17 < Evilpig> "I checked with my HR Business Partner this afternoon and she is still working through a way to adjust your offer. I will let you know as soon as I hear back from her."
07:17 <@Dolemite> ok
07:17 <@Dolemite> so not a Fuck No
07:17 < Evilpig> it wasn't a no, it was a i'm trying to make it happen
07:17 <@Dolemite> Which is all you can really ask for
07:17 < Evilpig> yup
07:17 < Evilpig> I really don't think it's that uncommon either
07:18 <@Dolemite> nope
07:18 < Evilpig> [DEPRECATION WARNING]: Use 'ansible.utils.ipaddr' module instead. This feature will be removed from ansible.netcommon in a release after 2024-01-01. Deprecation warnings can
07:18 < Evilpig> be disabled by setting deprecation_warnings=False in ansible.cfg.
07:18 < Evilpig> got this in a template that I guess I need to adjust
07:18 < Evilpig> com2sec local     {{ "%-15s" | format ( net_mask | ansible.netcommon.ipaddr('net') ) }} pig
07:19 <@Dolemite> HOT DAMN.   My Robinhood account is now only down 6.2% from what I've put into it.   At the nadir it was around 34%.
07:21 < Evilpig> honestly if she had come back with a fuck no, I would have accepted what she sent already too.  how was your sekrit all hands security meeting?
07:54 <@Dolemite> Total waste of time, but I understand why they made everybody come.   With people working from home for so long, we've had several workplace near accidents (and some actual accidents) in the past year.
07:54 <@Dolemite> So it was a safety culture reminder
07:57 < Evilpig> I heard about a pretty big fuck up just the other day causing loss of access to alot of home directories
07:57 <@Dolemite> Not aware of that one
07:59 <@Dolemite> If you heard that from Schute then it was likely for his R&D group since he's embedded out there, rather than working anything core IT
07:59 < Evilpig> I didn't get the complete scope, but that's where it was from
08:04 <@Dolemite> Well from an enterprise perspective, we don't have centrally mounted home folders.   We had a legacy shared home folder setup through the Isilon, but now everybody should be using OneDrive.
08:08 <@Dolemite> How old are you now, Pig?
08:09 < NotLarry> You don't ask a girl her age.
08:09 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: Good thing she's a full grown woman and not a girl
08:11 < Evilpig> Dolemite: uhhh... give me a second to math
08:11 <@Dolemite> Basically if you work here 25 years (until retirement) you'd have a guaranteed pension of 30% of your average salary of the highest 3 years out of the 10 before you retire.   Then you get your 401K.   It's a sweet deal.
08:11 < Evilpig> 43
08:12 <@Dolemite> It's 1.2% of your salary per year of service
08:12 <@Dolemite> So back that down just a bit if you retire in 22 years
08:13 <@Dolemite> I work with some folks that have been working here for 40 years.   They are going to be SET.
08:16 <@Dolemite> I started right before my 40th so I expect to retire at that 25 years of service mark.   Although the retirement age with Social Security has bumped up, again, so I guess I'll have 27 instead of 25.
08:20 < dasunt> I've been throwing a bunch of money into my retirement, hoping I can retire early.
08:20 <@Dolemite> Well the past year has fucked my 401K but it's starting to rebound
08:21 < dasunt> I just tell myself it's cheaper to invest right now.  :D
08:21 <@Dolemite> I'm still -17% rate of return YTD on the 401K.
08:22 <@Dagmar> ...but none of the frat boys working at the fund took a pay cut
08:23 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm sure none of the executives got bonuses, either.
08:24 < dasunt> LOL, my brokerage doesn't give me a percentage.
08:24 < dasunt> Quick math shows it's down about 10% YTD.
08:26 < dasunt> I will say that I just do index funds, so they are brain-dead simple.
08:28 < Evilpig> uh oh....
08:28 < Evilpig> Hello,   
08:28 < Evilpig> As a former employee of VUMC, we believe you have a unique perspective and we want to hear your thoughts. 
08:28 < Evilpig> In order to continue improving our work environment, we encourage you to participate in the VUMC exit interview survey. Your individual responses will not be attributed specifically to you and you have a choice on submitting your name when you take the survey. Your honesty is greatly appreciated and your opinions are highly valued. This feedback provides insight into the VUMC work environment and the factors that may lead to an employee’s decision to leave employment. 
08:28 < Evilpig> The results of multiple surveys will be summarized for each entity and the organization as a whole on a quarterly basis. Individual responses will not be shared with supervis
08:28 <@Dolemite> LOL, your honesty will be greatly appreciated
08:28 < NotLarry> I assume you have to log in to the survey?
08:29 <@Dolemite> they probably have a unique session id in the URL
08:29 < dasunt> For those, I suggest mostly lying.
08:29 < Evilpig> it's got a unique url, it's redcap based
08:30 < dasunt> Don't you guys have all hands meetings where people can ask "anonymous" questions?
08:30 <@Dagmar> Don't hold back, since they're very selective about who they let fill those out
08:30 <@Dagmar> It's part of how they keep deluding themselves
08:31 < Evilpig> dasunt: they aren't anonymous
08:31 < Evilpig> this is the second one of these i've filled out now.  I didn't hold back on the previous
08:32 < dasunt> Hence the quotations.
08:33 <@Dagmar> EVen the anonymous surveys there attach your name to the submissions
08:34 < Evilpig> the all hands meetings though were worse,  they were done in teams and you had to submit your question for a moderator to review and relay to the management folks
08:34 < dasunt> That's ours.
08:34 < dasunt> And it's pretty obvious that there's some concerns that aren't being addressed lately.
08:35 < Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ndhhp64cxxz11d3/Screen%20Shot%202022-11-01%20at%208.32.04%20AM.png?dl=0
08:35 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screen Shot 2022-11-01 at 8.32.04 AM.png - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) https://tinyurl.com/28xl7u6u
08:52 < NotLarry> So this is outsourced to v.e?  So much for the divorce.
09:23 < Evilpig> my housekeeper... jesus
09:23 < Evilpig> I texted her and said liam and ash both have the flu and 100+ temps if she wanted to reschedule today for next week it'd probably be a good idea
09:24 < Evilpig> she said she'd rather do it today she needs the $$$ for rent
09:24 <@Dolemite> she ain't fraid of no disease, just vaccines
09:25 < Evilpig> I told her okay but she should at least wear a mask, liam is locked away in the backroom with the door shut but ash is laid up on the couch as patient zero spreading it everywhere
09:25 < Evilpig> her response: Dang. I hope both of them will be feeling better soon. So far as a mask, I don't own one. Really not worried about catching anything. Haven't been sick in years other than arthritis. I'll pile up on colloidal silver and vitamin C to protect myself. 
09:26 < dasunt> She sounds like a disease vector.
09:27 < NotLarry> Yeah, but not just physical disease.
09:27 < Evilpig> she's something for sure
09:27 < dasunt> And her vote counts as much as yours.
09:27 < Evilpig> NotLarry has had the pleasure of an in person meeting with her at least once
09:27 < NotLarry> you keep using that word
09:28 < Evilpig> person?
09:28 < Evilpig> her?
09:28 < NotLarry> pleasure
09:28 < Evilpig> misfortune?
09:30 < NotLarry> 3 years living on the lake with all the mouthbreathers around I was never a frightened as the last 3 minutes I spent around her.
09:36 < dasunt> I've heard that a person should interview every six months, and I'm thinking more and more about that lately.
09:36 < dasunt> Thoughts?
09:36 <@Dolemite> Maybe in your early carerr
09:36 <@Dolemite> career
09:36 < Evilpig> not a bad idea if you're not confident in your abilities?
09:36 < dasunt> I'm more curious what's out there.
09:37 <@Dolemite> Once you find a spot that you enjoy then that becomes more important than climbing any ladder or trying to get more money
09:37 < Evilpig> I think it'd be a good idea to at least participate in some form of interview at least once a year.
09:37 < Evilpig> get a good reminder of good and bad things that happen in interviews
09:41 < dasunt> I don't dislike most of my job, but considering that I may not see compensation that's proportionate to the skills I'm gaining, I may need to look somewhere else.
09:41 < NotLarry> Yeah, I managed to find a place with no adult supervision that pays me something close to a living wage. 
09:43 < dasunt> The wage ain't *bad*, but on the other hand, it's not competitive for DevOps in my area.  We'll see after the yearly review.
09:54 < dasunt> I think the company may try to cheap out. :(
09:57 < NotLarry> Well, a living wage if I move so far out in the hicks that the only tn license plate I can get has numbers on the left:)
09:59 < dasunt> LOL.
10:22 < Evilpig> guess I should stop putting off getting a ticket for mac sabbath tonight
11:10 <@Dagmar> By the way, anyone need a 16-channel mixer?  Someone's had one on Craigslist for a bit now because it apparently has one broken XLR ejector ($20 repair) for $100
11:12 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Yeah that mess is starting to get out of control here.  We've got one of the lowest income rates in the country, but we're #16 for the cost of housing
11:12 <@Dagmar> I'm making more than I was at Vanderbilt and I'm still a stones throw from not being able to qualify for the lease on a 2-room apartment
11:18 <@Dolemite> Housing costs are finally starting to drop back down to normal around here...  at least, in the surrounding counties
11:19 <@Dagmar> They're not necessarily sane in surrounding counties either
11:19 <@Dolemite> Well they were really insance in Loudon County for a while, but now that houses are being built, again, the prices are inflated but not astronomical
11:20 <@Dagmar> There's fairly homely apartments in Millersville (which are practically across the street from trailer parks) which cost more per month for a _one bedroom_ than the condo I was in when I worked for Vandy
11:20 <@Dolemite> We live right on the edge of Knox/Loudon but honestly do more things in Loudon.   When we empty nest downsize, that's likely where we'll go.
11:46 < NotLarry> My boss has said they want to see less of me onsite.  Not sure how to take that but ok.
11:52 <@Dolemite> Maybe put on clothes next time
12:01 <@Dagmar> Pants. 
12:02 <@Dagmar> THey were definitely referring specifically to pants.
13:11 < Evilpig> I don't know that i'd want to tell notlarry to wear pants, I'm going to assume he was wearing his skirt and if you have something to say about it you're likely gonna have to talk to HR about gender norms and acceptable pronoun usage
15:03 < Evilpig> hahah  so lacy is now 5/5
15:04 < Evilpig> the last sr linux admin is actively interviewing
16:07 < dasunt> Wait, if I dont wear pants, I can WFH?  Win-win!
18:26 <@eryc> Evilpig: are you going to peer with netflix
18:28 <@eryc> the 400gbit option looked good
18:28 <@eryc> maybe we can do some cultural atudies
19:10 < dasunt> This is an apt description:  https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/comments/yijg3s/comment/iuju6m3/
19:10 < PigBot> How would you describe Kubernetes to a newbie? : kubernetes (at www.reddit.com) https://tinyurl.com/2b4rqy9o
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