--- Log opened Fri Sep 30 00:00:55 2022
07:43 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:43 < Evilpig> yay!  a new season of "the floor is lava"  lol
08:44 <@Dolemite> So I watched ep 1 of "The Rookie: Feds".   Not impressed at all.
08:47 < Evilpig> same
08:47 < Evilpig> I knew they were going to copy the format but deviating from that to make her just break rules constantly, nope
08:48 <@Dolemite> I may give it one or two more episodes.
08:51 < Evilpig> bah!  recent update to homeassistant broke my media logger.  http://blueboy.wilpig.org/media.php
08:51 < PigBot> No Title (at blueboy.wilpig.org) https://tinyurl.com/2jfkg55u
09:00 <@Dagmar> I just had to warn Ben that should he suggest self-hosting Sharepoint that Brandon might take a swing at him
09:00 <@Dagmar> heh
09:23 < aestetix> any of you following the russia/ukraine drama?
09:23 < aestetix> not sure how much coverage it gets in the US
09:23 <@Dolemite> Hard to escape it
09:23 < aestetix> oh ok I didn't know if americans even care
09:23 <@Dagmar> Putin's a war-mongering sodomite.  What more is there to know?
09:23 <@Dolemite> Oh it's definitely still front and center, though the hurricane has gotten shared centerpiece status the last few days
09:24 < aestetix> Dagmar: well, the latest update is going to really shift some things
09:24 <@Dolemite> His annexation of 4 provinces in Ukraine after the sham election?
09:24 < aestetix> By annexing parts of ukraine into russia, he'll consider any efforts of ukraine to get them back as an act of war
09:25 <@Dolemite> yes, that has been talking headed over the past couple of days
09:25 < aestetix> So if NATO does nothing, it will be Crimea all over again
09:26 < aestetix> Dolemite: one of my colleages is from Crimea and fled to Berlin after the annexation happened
09:26 < aestetix> He worked at a university, and suddenly many of his colleages were replaced by russian informants
09:26 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Except that no one is buying any of his bullshit.  This was a war of aggression from day one.
09:27 < aestetix> And several other colleagues of mine are from Ukraine, mostly Kyiv
09:28 < aestetix> it's pretty horrifying hearing about what their families are going through
09:28 <@Dolemite> So given the very uneven ratio of casualties between Russian troops and Ukrainian (heavily in favor of Ukraine) and the fact that Putin is now having to conscript soldiers means he'll be putting even more untrained/unready people into the field of play...  either a coup will happen in Russia, or we'll all end up in the midst of the unplanned sequel to War Games.
09:28 <@Dagmar> I'd like to see the good people of Russia go ahead and drag his war mongering ass out into the street and tear him into bloody chunks so everyone can get on with having a relatively radiation-free life
09:29 <@Dagmar> Because that fuckstick keeps talking aobut having nuclear options, which I think is a great way to get himself assassinated
09:29 < aestetix> Dolemite: well, it depends on whether China joins the game
09:29 <@Dolemite> China wants nothing of it
09:29 <@Dagmar> Like, oh so sorry you can't get your way but irradiating the rest of the planet is not an acceptable response
09:29 <@Dolemite> Xi has pretty much postured as such
09:29 <@Dagmar> Fuck him into itty bitty pieces
09:33 <@Dagmar> The only way Putin does *not* go down in history as a war-mongering slaver is if he takes over the entire world.
09:33 <@Dagmar> Think about that for a moment.
09:34 <@Dagmar> Not even Russia is capable of lying their way around basically _stealing_ thousands of people from the Ukraine and shipping them off to parts unknown
09:55 <@Dolemite> They did that a few years ago with Crimea
10:00 < aestetix> Dolemite: yep. The question will be, does anything happen to Putin after this
10:00 < aestetix> Exactly nothing happened after he took Crimea
10:24 <@Dagmar> Crimea didn't fight tooth and nail
10:24 <@Dagmar> It looks like the only way the Ukraine gets taken by Russia is after Russia has murdered everyone who lived there
10:25 <@Dagmar> Notable differences between the two is that the Ukraine _used_ to be a russian shithole, but actually made huge strides in becoming a modern democracy and a prosperous nation once they got our of hte Republic
10:25 <@Dagmar> Crimea was still pretty much a shithole
10:26 <@Dagmar> So, the Ukraine _knows_ what they'll be losing by allowing themselves to be taken back over
10:43 < Evilpig> got an interview set up with asurian for next week now as well
10:46 < Evilpig> ROFL  so one of my former coworkers at vandy just accepted a position with red hat
10:47 < Evilpig> that
10:47 < Evilpig> that's two of the seniors gone in a week
10:47 < Evilpig> three to go
10:51 <@Dagmar> That's okay, Vanderbilt can just outsource everything to Amazon.  It'll be _fine_
10:51 <@Dagmar> Frankly they should have been very alarmed when the subject of "5-10 years from now" came up considering how few people _currently_ have been there that long
10:52 <@Dagmar> Like, there's no point in asking when it's obvious they only want to keep new-hires who do bad work for cheap
10:52 <@Dagmar> Everyone else gets driven out
10:53 <@Dagmar> Practically the only people who have been there for more than five years were the people who were named specifically in that expensive outside assessment
10:59 < Evilpig> I'm watching on from the wings, just laughing
11:02 <@eryc> the hurricane has started
11:02 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling that if you asked the people who've left, you'd find that 99% of them were doing just that
11:02 <@Dagmar> I know I was
11:03 <@Dagmar> Doin' my job and spectating the circus
11:06 <@eryc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyhQLx6kFb8
11:06 < PigBot> 🔴LIVE - Hurricane Ian Coverage With Multiple Storm Chasers - Live Weather Channel... - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/2z9ltak3
12:00 < aestetix> Evilpig: does sdodson still work at redhat?
12:07 < Evilpig> as far as I know
12:15 <@Dolemite> yes
12:19 <@Dagmar> Damn this is annoying
12:20 <@Dagmar> I am getting nowhere trying to find a way to implement a firewall rule that blocks retransmission of ethernet multicast addresses on the firewall
12:20 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to go with it being a bad idea all 'round to have anything responding to ARP WHO-HAS with such an address
12:22 <@Dagmar> The only thing i can find that might be a solution is to forcibly publish an entry with the actual mac address of one of the devices
12:22 <@Dagmar> ...which will probably break shit
12:26 <@Dagmar> RFC1812 says it shoudlnt' even be allowed
12:26 <@Dagmar> I'm just gonna have to give up on that for now 
12:27 <@Dagmar> Gonna have to wait for the windows admins to revisit why they're responding to ARP with that
14:02 < Evilpig> well damn.  add a funeral to next week's schedule too.  sister just texted "it's happening" so my grandfather is finally passing
15:36 < NotLarry> Sorry
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