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04:59 < aestetix> Dagmar: my understanding is that Trump had a SCIF at Mara lago
04:59 < aestetix> So the question was, were the documents in the SCIF or not
08:01 <@Dagmar> I'm going to hazard a guess from all the talk that _they were not_ or at least one of these dim motherfuckers would have said so by now
08:02 <@Dagmar> INstead we've gotten multiple lawyers talking about how where they were was "almost as safe"
08:02 <@Dagmar> Does "almost" count?
08:02 <@Dagmar> LOL
08:03 <@Dagmar> Either way, Trump was officially asked to return these documents _twice_ prior to the raid
08:04 <@Dagmar> He had one of his lawyers sign off on a statement saying that there were no more sensitive materials at Mar-A-Lago because they've all been returned.
08:04 <@Dagmar> So... that's where the obstruction charge comes in
08:05 <@Dagmar> They could hit him with _two_ counts of the espionage act because now it's pretty much a fact that he refused to return the sensitive documents when asked, _twice_
08:05 <@Dagmar> ...because both times are now clearly a crime.
10:15 <@Mirage> aestetix: In news video I watched last night it was stated that those documents were NOT in the 'secured' location.  They were discussing who the 'insider' may be in that video and stated that without insider knowledge they didn't believe that the documents and/or the safe would likely have been found
10:16 < aestetix> Mirage: well, then he's fucked
10:16 <@Mirage> I take a lot of the crap being thrown around with a grain of salt right now because there's too much conjecture being tossed about.
10:17 < aestetix> Seems to me the appropriate punishment would be a half dozen years of solitary confinement at Quantico\
10:17 < aestetix> Since that is what the US seems to do to people who mishandle classified information
10:18 <@Mirage> The main takeaway IMO is that he DID have gov't documents that were marked classified as proven by the court documents, and he himself has never denied having had them.
10:20 <@Mirage> None of the GOP that are whining about it have denied that he had the documents either, so far as I've seen, they've just been spweing out bullshit reasons as to WHY he had them
10:21 <@Mirage> Of course all the qtards don't see any problem with it because he's the REAL president and therefore SHOULD have had those documents as well as anything else that he damn well pleased
10:22 <@Mirage> With the reported political donations being tossed his way, there needs to be some SERIOUS reform on the subject of political donations, PACs, etc.  
10:22 < aestetix> And they are also ok with him having them in an insecure location?
10:23 <@Mirage> Are you serious?  Per the Qtards he can do no wrong. 
10:23 < aestetix> ugh
10:26 < Evilpig> for the qtards he is doing wrong by not re-seizing control officially
10:38 < Evilpig> aestetix: that show you asked me about a while back "60 days in" has started another season
10:44 < aestetix> Evilpig: I got a 5TB drive for storage, and I can't figure out what to do with so much space
10:44 < aestetix> how the hell do you have 120 TB or whatever it is
10:51 < Evilpig> alot of automation
10:51 < Evilpig> Filesystem                Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
10:51 < Evilpig> diskpig3:/volume2/media2   70T   30T   41T  42% /nas1
10:51 < Evilpig> diskpig3:/volume1/media   140T  133T  7.4T  95% /nas2
10:56 < Evilpig> [10:55:40] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting minecraft server version 1.19.2
10:56 < Evilpig> hopefully this means my little server crashing bug with chests has been fixed
10:58 -!- _NSAKEY_ is now known as _NSAKEY
12:05 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Even if he was the "real" President he'd be fucked for moving those SCI out of the SCIF and into the basement by the pool so he could show them off.
12:05 <@Dagmar> Someone probably _rolled_ on him for that very thing.
12:05 <@Dagmar> Thou Shalt Not Wave Nuclear Secrets Around Like A Trophy
13:23 <@Dagmar> sivik: iptables != routing
13:23 <@Dagmar> @#$@#$
13:35 < aestetix> Dagmar: at least it's not ipchains
20:43 <@Mirage> Some of these are just classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-24vzSEX9Q&ab_channel=AmazedAnimal
20:43 < PigBot> 50 Hilarious Cats Being Shamed For Their Crimes - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/2op43t3m
20:45 <@Mirage> OMG... I loved this on TV when I was a kid and it's back!  https://www.youtube.com/c/SpittingImage/videos
20:46 < PigBot> Spitting Image - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/y8pmbxz2
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