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10:36 <@Dagmar> Even that URL says there's no simple command
12:47 <@Mirage> hmm... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MpDjkeDR8U&ab_channel=IGN
12:47 < PigBot> Willow - Official Teaser Trailer (2022) Joanne Whalley, Warick Davis - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/24mp8v3y
14:54 < Evilpig> that's been added to the tracker for november
20:01 <@jb7od> any creative ideas for synonyms for "training meeting" along the lines of "lunch and learn" or maybe a little beefier, but not quite "install-fest"? 
20:01 <@jb7od> although I guess that wouldn't be off the table. 
20:02 <@jb7od> I wonder what socrates called it- "yooo, we're kickin it on the hill, fam- bring that wine, too"
20:07 <@Mirage> OK, so what is it that you're wanting a creative name for?
20:09 <@jb7od> I don't think it gets better than "technology training meeting" honestly.
20:09 <@jb7od> maybe throw the word optional in there
20:09 <@jb7od> lol
20:12 <@jb7od> Basically, I've got a userbase, some of which is plenty enthusiastic, but... weak on the skillset. And this can be round-robin, any aspect of workflow, you can find people doing things "creatively", and there's just no resource beyond independent study-- which is daunting enough for the already daunted.
20:13 <@jb7od> thre's people who would get back a 1/3rd of a day learning alt+tab, for example. 
20:14 <@Mirage> learning alt+tab?  Um... Meals with Morons?
20:15 <@jb7od> I know it's hard to imagine- but a lot of these weird habits form in a vacuum. It's like not being able to read-- you'd be surprised how far somebody can fake it. 
20:16 <@Mirage> Skydog was the king of faking his way through an interview..and was proud of it.
20:17 <@Mirage> BTW, not being derogatory...just stating a fact
20:18 <@jb7od> Hahaha! did he? I've never had the nuts to try.. 
20:20 <@Mirage> For his old position at VU, absolutely.
20:21 <@Mirage> Dunno about others, but that one I know for a fact
20:22 <@jb7od> we talkin just windbagging or like fraud "I hold a CCNA from Harvard, I'll have you know!"
20:23 <@Mirage> Windbagging, general misrepresentation of abilities required for the position.  He was confident that as long as he could get his foot in the door that he could pick up what he needed to know
20:26 <@jb7od> I actually probably have more complicated feelings about VU than I do any of you guys. Throughout the entire thing, I've known you guys all from wildly different vectors, been a patient at the V more than anything (outside of being contracted underneath the north bridge until they got caught up- "legacy staff" had left a backlog of 70 tix for one tech with a 24 hour slr, cat had a heart attack so they sent in the troops lol))
20:31 <@jb7od> Vendors should just give certs to people after a point. Whatever Dell or Lenovo or whoever's warranty work I could pick up, just anywhere around the house, ought to totally be worth all of their whiles- or at least super duper discount bounty work like that- 
20:33 <@jb7od> That's the scam at a lot of these bigger places- go down the benches, and one guy is HP, one guy is Dell, blah blah- "the shop is certified", but and I quote, "this is the real world." -M. Sipe PMRY
20:33 <@jb7od> but whoever's going to Franklin is doing everything in Franklin- 
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