--- Log opened Thu Mar 03 00:00:23 2022
00:22 <@jb7od> You know, I remember when putin made himself president for life, and what I came to realize is when you build your democracy on enough of a roman model, it leaves room for ceasar to poison the senate and run things until and only until he ultimately gets jumped by his own people. I bet that's all they talked about at emoluments week at mar-a-lago. 
00:30 <@jb7od> You must be handome man, and hero to your people. The People love hero. 
00:33 <@jb7od> (side-effects include artificial sense of self-esteem)
01:57 <@Mirage> Evilpig: https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/fuo/d/mckinney-one-of-kind-bar-stool/7452877375.html
01:57 < PigBot> "One of a Kind" Bar Stool - furniture - by owner - sale (at dallas.craigslist.org) https://tinyurl.com/ya3on6g4
06:43 < Evilpig> Mirage: don't show my mother or it will end up here
06:44 < Evilpig> https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/02/europe/ukraine-putin-europe-security-analysis-intl-cmd/index.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16463075174390&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2022%2F03%2F02%2Feurope%2Fukraine-putin-europe-security-analysis-intl-cmd%2Findex.html
06:44 < PigBot> Analysis: Europe is making once-unimaginable decisions to counter Putin's aggression - CNN (at amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org) https://tinyurl.com/ybtzcxd3
06:44 < Evilpig> it was nice seeing this in writing.  "A big fear in European capitals: what would have happened if Biden wasn't in the White House at the moment? No one seriously believes that Trump would have handled this well and we may have him or someone like him back in a couple of years. Effectively, that means we have to assume we are alone," the diplomat added.
06:49 <@aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVu8QbxafJE
06:49 <@aestetix> this is a really good summary of what's going on
06:49 < PigBot> Putin's war on Ukraine, explained - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yaeqjpm2
06:49 <@aestetix> also, completely agreed
06:49 <@aestetix> biden is absolutely the one I want as potus right now
06:50 <@aestetix> I do not want to think how bad it would be with trump
07:00 < Evilpig> biden is level headed and calm in his approach.  with trump we might very well be sending in seal team 6 in kyiv to help putin 
07:00 <@aestetix> agreed
07:01 <@aestetix> also biden has like four decades of foreign policy experience
07:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:21  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:22 <@aestetix> https://www.hope.net/ukraine.html
07:22 < PigBot> [A New HOPE] Ukraine  (at www.hope.net) 
07:22 <@Dolemite> LOL, apparently that wildcard cert had been passed around like a crack pipe
07:22 <@aestetix> HOPE made a statement. I wonder if Defcon or Shmoocon will
07:22 <@Dolemite> There were 153 new SSL certs registered overnight by the Tier 1 admins
07:22 <@aestetix> what wildcard cert
07:23 <@Dolemite> aestetix: One of the prior system admins had gotten a wildcard cert for work.   He left when we had suspended without pay the people that refused to get vaccinated, so when the renewal email went to him, nobody was listening.  It expired yesterday.
07:23 <@aestetix> oh man
07:24 <@aestetix> Dolemite: you didn't set up a redirection for mails going to suspended employees?
07:24 <@aestetix> also wtf is it with people refusing to get vaccinated
07:24 <@Dolemite> Under the new system that I wrote, wildcard requests are treated with a "do your fucking job, you lazy punk" instead of saying, "Ok, here you go."
07:24 <@Dolemite> aestetix: No, I'm sure there's some government regulation forbidding that
07:25 <@Dolemite> But anyway, NIST has forbidden wildcards at the top level for years.   When I wrote my tool I actually started enforcing it, unlike the person who simply treated the cert process like Randall in Clerks.
07:25 <@aestetix> wait, even if they have been suspended?
07:26 <@aestetix> I guess the real solution is to set up a group alias and have the mails go to the alias
07:26 <@Dolemite> aestetix: The suspension only lasted about a month before an injunction went into place, but he needed money, so he quit and got another job
07:26 <@aestetix> Well if he's no longer there, you should be able to access his email, right?
07:27 <@Dolemite> Well with my new system every request is tied to a device and I verify that the requester is listed as an admin for that device.   When renewals come around, it checks against our corporate directory to see if they are still here.  If not, it goes back to the network registry to see who the current admins for that device and emails them.
07:27 <@Dolemite> If the cert is still not replaced 15 days out, it opens a ticket in ServiceNow and assigns to the Tier 1 Admins to go bird dog the system.
07:28 <@Dolemite> If you let it expire, it goes on a list that makes it to the CIO and you get to do the shame walk.
07:29 <@Dolemite> Admins have the ability to retire their own certs if they are no longer needed and it will be removed from the renewal lifecycle.
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07:42 <@aestetix> Are americans paying attention to the Ukraine war at all, or is it just a faraway thing for them?
07:48 < brimstone> our president mentioned it at the state of the union this week, so the americans that tune into that at least know about it
07:57 <@opticron> aestetix, I'm paying at least moderate attention...not like we couldn't see this coming, though
07:57 <@aestetix> well
07:57 <@aestetix> ukraine has been a ticking time bomb for some time
07:57 <@aestetix> especially after 2014
07:57 <@opticron> ever since crimea
07:57 <@aestetix> hah
07:58 <@aestetix> but yeah, I am around 90% sure ukraine will fall
07:58 <@aestetix> just a matter of when
07:58 <@aestetix> I very much hope it ends there
07:58 <@opticron> lol
07:58 <@opticron> I'm not convinced
07:58 <@aestetix> singing and chanting and hippies doing roadblocks are not going to stop tanks and shotguns
07:58 <@opticron> which of russia's neighbors isnext?
07:59 <@opticron> and can putin muster enough conscripts to do it soon?
07:59 <@aestetix> probably latvia or lithuania
07:59 <@aestetix> although that would change the game significantly
07:59 <@opticron> as long as they're not in NATO, I don't feel like it would
07:59 <@aestetix> NATO and the EU have been wise to delay accepting Ukraine
08:00 <@aestetix> both Latvia and Luthuana are in NATO
08:05 <@Dolemite> There's plenty of virtue signaling going on.   PRAY FOR UKRAINE
08:09 <@opticron> prayer has proven a very effective tool of war, I'll have you know
08:09 <@Dolemite> Only for starting them, not ending them
08:09 <@opticron> shhhhh
08:12 <@opticron> aestetix, there's also the effects of sanctions to consider...if russia's economy actually collapses, things are going to get really fucking weird
08:41 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMaYUGA3d04&ab_channel=alyankovic
08:41 < PigBot> Weird Al Pinball Machine! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 
08:57 <@aestetix> opticron: yep
08:59 <@aestetix> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-tax-office-says-captured-russian-tanks-don-t-have-to-be-declared/ar-AAUwm1j?ocid=msedgntp
08:59 < PigBot> MSN (at www.msn.com) 
09:43 < Evilpig> Mirage: did you look at the price on that?  I saw it the other day and just about shit
09:44 < Evilpig> https://www.multimorphic.com/p3-ordering-instructions/ $13k
09:44 < PigBot>  Ordering Instructions - Multimorphic, Inc  (at www.multimorphic.com) 
10:02 <@Dagmar> Someone explain to me what the galloping fuck is going on with this shit
10:02 <@Dagmar> I go to a website with a browser, it does the SSL thing and gets the cert and everything's happy
10:02 <@Dagmar> I go to the same website with openssl s_client, and I don't get SHIT
10:02 <@Dagmar> _No cert_
10:03 <@Dolemite> o.O
10:03 <@Dagmar> AHA
10:03 <@Dagmar> SNI
10:03 <@Dagmar> Just found it by sheer luck
10:03 <@Dagmar> Updating checks now
10:04 <@Dolemite> Were you going by IP address before?
10:06 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.   Gizmodo has't been updated in 2 days.   I wonder what the heck is up with that.
10:19 < Evilpig> Dolemite: https://geekologie.com/ has been dead for over 6 months now
10:19 < PigBot> Geekologie - Gadgets, Gizmos, and Awesome (at geekologie.com) https://tinyurl.com/yaqx4e74
11:26 <@aestetix> https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t5pn0z/ukrainian_mp_says_on_fox_news_you_care_more_about/
11:26 < PigBot> Ukrainian MP says on Fox News, ‘you care more about whether you pay extra 50 cents for your gas’ than ‘how many people die in Ukraine’ : PublicFreakout (at old.reddit.com) https://tinyurl.com/y8q96y3y
11:26 <@aestetix> I hope all the pro-russian assholes see that
11:33 <@opticron> so they can agree with it?
11:39 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Yeah, I knew geekologie had been dead
13:19 <@Mirage> Re ST: Discovery...finally another episode w/ my fav surly engineer being surly.  Been missing it
19:15 <@Dagmar> Could Picard's pin be _any_ fancier
19:33 < Evilpig> new south park making "poot-in" jokes.  heh
19:49 < Evilpig> oh jesus christ.
20:09 <@Dagmar> ...and even Captain Burnham clearly wants to exhaust all possible side-quests before taking on the final boss
21:19 <@Dagmar> Wow
21:19 <@Dagmar> "Guardians of Justice" on Netflix is really next level trash.
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