--- Log opened Fri Feb 18 00:00:56 2022 02:44 <@Dagmar> That varies with trasmissability, so, something highly contagions like omicron... higher than 80% 02:49 <@Dagmar> It's certainly not sending anyone to jail 02:49 <@Dagmar> @#$#@ 06:50 <@Dagmar> How the fuck do you not have a way to put out a fire on a boat that's surrounded by ocean 06:56 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: sodium fire, or oil fire 07:21 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I can't imagine that they wouldn't have AR-AFFF on that ship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighting_foam 07:21 < PigBot> Firefighting foam - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) https://tinyurl.com/ybjy5yc5 08:12 <@xray> Dagmar - because there is a lot more to putting out a fire than just having water available. 08:13 <@Dagmar> Yes, I'm aware. Just like I'm aware you can't very well go spraying the garden hose in a datacenter. 08:14 <@Dagmar> MOST people tend to consider putting out a fire an actual priority when the location itself can and frequently is smack in the middle of an equally lethal environment. 08:14 <@Dagmar> So they should damn well have some foam sprayers or something on board 08:14 <@Dagmar> Otherwise unless the entire thing is made out of non-flammables, it's just a floating fucking deathtrap 08:15 <@Dagmar> Like, if an office building catches fire, you can just go outside. 08:15 <@Dagmar> A large steam ship catches fire, you can very easily be facing a slow death by freezing, or being eaten by sharks, or just drowning 08:16 <@Dagmar> Tach: No, FTP is obsolete. 08:19 <@Evilpig> ftp is still useful you bastard 08:19 <@xray> Some of the other issues I remember from fire fighting school. 08:19 <@xray> 1. Class of the fire. If it is a hot metal fire, there is no putting it out. 08:19 <@xray> 2. Location of the fire. 08:19 <@xray> 3. Do they have the equipment to support a fire team in a confined space filled with toxic smoke? 08:19 <@xray> 4. Have they lost power? No power means no pumps for the fire hoses. 08:19 <@xray> 5. How many people do you have trained in fire fighting? If you have a small team and they are already dead or injured your up the creek with no paddle. 08:29 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Yeah it's great for a honeypot so you know who to fire first 08:29 <@Dagmar> Then nothing is going to work reliably with that 08:29 <@Dagmar> @@#$#@ 08:44 <@Mirage> xray: I seriously doubt it would be a delta fire, though if a few of those vehicles were EV's and the batteries had caught fire then I could see it being pretty nasty. Regardless, surely they would some form of FFF...and most likely one that would be effective against a fuel fire and anything below. 08:46 < oddball> Remember that there might be all of 20 people on the crew. If the fire wasn't noticed until it was already sizable... 08:56 <@Dagmar> 22 people 08:57 <@Dagmar> Who mysteriously are fine with sailing on a boat where they could die from a mild lack of planning 08:58 <@Dagmar> These environments where you might have nowhere to vacate _to_ that isn't "very lethal" are really supposed to have things like, smoke detectors. 09:02 < oddball> Yeah... those stacks of containers on top of the ship aren't going to have things like that and definitely won't have them tied into the ship's systems. 10:09 <@Catonic> The size and scale of a fire that makes metal boxes rupture and contribute to the fire 10:10 <@Catonic> It's probably all the plastics melting and oozing out and contributing to the fire, or explosively decompressing the container, then dripping down liquid plastic on the fire. 10:11 < oddball> And dealing with a fire on a ship is... special. 10:11 <@Catonic> It's interesting that the reaction was to abandon ship, not open the seacocks and flood the engine room and bildges. 10:12 <@Catonic> "If it can be put out... it is NOT OUR PROBLEM!" 10:12 <@Dagmar> if I can buy battery powered _networked_ fire alarms for the home, they afford to sprinkle some around between cargo containers 10:12 <@Catonic> I forgot to add "then abandon ship" to that prior one. 10:13 <@Dagmar> Because seriously, the idea of "Oh dear a small fire has broken out. Let's just hop into our lifeboats and let a million-dollar ship and multiple-millions of dollars in cargo burn and sink" seems financially ire-refucking-sponsible in the extrmeme. 10:20 <@Dagmar> Red Star Linux 11:03 <@Mirage> poor her.. https://www.eurosport.com/figure-skating/beijing-2022/2022/i-will-never-go-out-on-the-ice-again-angry-alexandra-trusova-hits-out-after-figure-skating-silver_sto8801366/story.shtml 11:03 < PigBot> 'I will never go out on the ice again!' - Angry Alexandra Trusova hits out after figure skating silver - Eurosport (at www.eurosport.com) https://tinyurl.com/y8g32uj8 11:34 <@Mirage> https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/18/europe/greek-ferry-fire-scli-intl/index.html 11:34 < PigBot> Two passengers trapped and 11 missing in Greece ferry fire - CNN (at www.cnn.com) https://tinyurl.com/y7omou29 13:28 <@Evilpig> Hello, /export/home is at 81% dick space usage. And i don't have access to the files in the folder, can you please check that Thanks 13:28 <@Evilpig> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 13:28 <@Evilpig> 2.8P 2.2P 537T 81% /export/home 13:30 <@Evilpig> So what do I do? I send the ticket to storage and request that they increase the size of the drive to get that under 80% for the user that is monitoring drive space that isn't supposed to be 13:41 <@Dagmar> Suggest they delete some of their own files 13:42 <@Dagmar> ...or just confirm for them that it's at 81% utilization, since they seem to have doubts. 13:43 <@Evilpig> storage's response to me was to run df against that mount. 13:43 <@Evilpig> [1:21 PM] Longwisch, Wilbur L. 13:43 <@Evilpig> Oh i'm fully aware of how much space is there 13:43 <@Evilpig> [1:21 PM] Longwisch, Wilbur L. 13:43 <@Evilpig> I'm also aware that those morons installed some type of monitoring crap in splunk telling them that any mount over 80% usage is too much 13:43 <@Evilpig> [1:22 PM] Longwisch, Wilbur L. 13:43 <@Evilpig> So I passed the duh-huh onto you all because they aren't looking at amount of free space and just hte %. so get on it cochese, add free space 13:53 <@Dagmar> zgrep 16:03 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h69-131-216-77.cncrtn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 16:03 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h69-131-216-77.cncrtn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:03 -!- Dolemite [~scott@user/dolemite] has joined #se2600 16:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 16:07 <@Dolemite> Jeebus. About freakin' time. Buried utilities in the neighborhood sure sounded great at first, but we've had multi-day internet outages 3 times since December. All because of the drilling crew for the electrical company. 16:07 <@Dolemite> Now to shut off the phone hotspot and start homing from home 16:07 <@Dagmar> You should find a way to get a high-voltage line buried next to the fiber 16:08 <@Dagmar> Look, kid. This isn't a "police action". They clearly plan on just taking _over_ the country. This isn't something you make light of. 16:41 <@Evilpig> I gotta say 40 minutes wasn't horrible to replace the windshield washer nozzle on the mustang. if only they didn't hide it under 14 of those little upholstery pop button things 17:00 -!- Dolemite [~scott@user/dolemite] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h69-131-216-77.cncrtn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h69-131-216-77.cncrtn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:16 -!- Dolemite [~scott@user/dolemite] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sat Feb 19 00:00:57 2022