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06:10 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:21  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:58 <@Dolemite> This is a bonafide East Tennessee Idiot Preacher.
06:58 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFB6GUVrDrM&t=4250s
06:58 < PigBot> Holy Heartburn - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yj5ppfho
06:58 <@Dolemite> Friend of mine keeps trying to talk his wife into taking the whole family to a service so that he can heckle the dude
07:01 <@Dolemite> I know Right Wing Watch is watching. I don't care. If they go through round two, you start showing up all these masks and all this nonsense, I'll ask you to leave. I will ask you to leave! I am not playing these Democrat games up in his church. If you want to social distance go to First Baptist Church but don't come to this one. I'm done with it. I said I'm done with it. I ain't playing these stupid 
07:01 <@Dolemite> games.
07:15 <@aestetix> how long does this guy's "sermon" go on for?
07:16 <@Dolemite> I dunno, you only need to watch about 1-2 minutes from that starting point in the link to get that nugget
07:20 <@aestetix> It's sad because I agree with roughly 50% of what he says.
07:21 <@aestetix> And the other 50% is pure notjobbery
07:22 <@aestetix> Dolemite: do these guys have the english translation of the bible memorized? I don't think I've ever seen someone list off so many quotes at once
07:22 <@Dolemite> Well you have to remember that they don't give their sermons off the cuff
07:23 <@aestetix> Not sure if  Ishuld be impressed or terrified
07:23 <@Dolemite> These are planned out and well rehearsed
07:23 <@aestetix> ah ok
07:23 <@Mirage_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vxukz1x_eU
07:23 < PigBot> Rednecks have entered the SPACE RACE - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/ye26utvz
07:23 <@Dolemite> That being said, a large number of them do have the ability to quote a large portion of the Bible by chapter and verse
07:24 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: Well, I do have that same minivan...   just not painted up like that
07:25 <@Dolemite> Took it over to a tint shop yesterday to do a color match on the fabric.   Headliner is now drooping like a circus tent, so since the engine is still in good shape, I figure it's worth $350 to have someone do a professional headliner replacement.
07:26 <@aestetix> Dolemite: how do these guys do this every week
07:27 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Because simple minded people looking for answers are easily parted with their money
07:28 <@Dolemite> This church, and specifically this pastor, are constantly in the news.  You may as well call it "The Church of Owning the Libtards".
07:28 <@Dolemite> When your political views influence your spiritual views, you have lost your way.   It should be the other way around.
07:29 <@aestetix> Or they should not influence each other at all
07:29 <@Dagmar> It would be a shame if their website burned to the ground
07:30 <@Dolemite> Well your spirituality is typically what calibrates your moral compass, so spiritual views affect your entire life
07:31 <@aestetix> I do agree with that preacher that the left has been totally hypocritical about COVID..... but the right has too
07:31 <@Dolemite> And there's a big difference between spirituality and religion
07:35 <@Dolemite> I am working on a new analogy for the right wingers
07:35 <@Dolemite> Anti-vaxxers are women of child bearing age.  Viruses are men.   Some are rapists, some are not.  You can't tell from looking at them.
07:35 <@Dolemite> Masks are condoms, and abortions are illegal.
07:36 <@aestetix> I would say.... both sides, I agree with roughly 50% of what they say, and 50% is batshit insane
07:36 <@Dolemite> Actually, more like the vaccine is a condom and masks are the rhythm method
07:38 <@aestetix> I guess that means everyone hates me. Which matches reality
07:38 <@aestetix> Thankfully I don't care :)
07:40 <@Dolemite> https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/entertainment/bob-odenkirk-collapse-intl-scli/index.html
07:40 < PigBot> Bob Odenkirk hospitalized after collapsing on 'Better Call Saul' set - CNN (at www.cnn.com) https://tinyurl.com/ydmrpa2v
07:40 <@Dolemite> Not good
07:45 <@Mirage_> Dolemite:  Did you ever meet my friend Jeremy aka "Moth" from OK?
07:45 <@Dolemite> don't recall 
07:46 < Evilpig> Mirage_: your log showing tls1.2 explicitly made me go digging.  our rhel8 machines using postfix weren't logging their stuff so I added smtp_tls_loglevel=1 to their configs and they show tls1.2 now.  the rhel7's still using sendmail don't want to get any more specific it seems
07:46 <@aestetix> Apparently there is an escape room world championship tournament
07:47 <@Mirage_> Evilpig: Guess RH hasn't backported that on whichever version ships in el7
07:47 < Evilpig> not surprised
08:02 < Evilpig> useless old sendmail.  just to be 100% certain, even though I know on the relay server it only accepts tls1.2 connections I still can't get this sendmail to show the right version in the log
08:03 < Evilpig> even with SSLProtocol -All +TLSv1.2 in the sendmail.mc
08:03 < Evilpig> version=TLSv1/SSLv3
08:03 < Evilpig> gonna chalk that up to stupid logging
08:03 <@Dagmar> That should have worked, as far as I know
08:03 <@Dagmar> You can always test it with openssl
08:03 < Evilpig> openssl shows fine
08:04 < Evilpig> ths is just the sendmail log showing bad info
08:04 <@Dagmar> If openssl is unable to get a tls1.1 connection then you're fine and it's just dumb logigng
08:04 < Evilpig> the log on the mail relay shows the incoming connection as tls 1.2
08:05 <@Dagmar> The init systems that are practically "made of bash" only worry about being init, not mounting disks for users or creating homedirs
08:05 <@Dagmar> @#$@#
08:08 <@Dagmar> Fuck systemd
08:08 <@Dagmar> I just learned that not satisfied with their current level of metastasis the fuckers have gone on to add their own mDNS resolver to systemd-resolved
08:08 <@Dagmar> Jesus jumping christ those fucks do not learn from their mistakes
08:09 <@Dagmar> devuan needs to offer a fucking support contract possibility so I've got an excuse to justify walking away from these dumpster fire distributions
08:10 <@Dagmar> I am about sick of their active efforts to reject everything that has made Linux systems goddamn secure and stable
08:11 <@Dagmar> I do not want to be replacing pieces of core production equipment with shitcode written by goddamn n00barses
08:13 <@Dagmar> It's fucking stupid to continue doing this just so your new hire developers can pad their resumes
08:14 <@Dagmar> If we're going to be demanding careful scrutiny and professional code review of openssl, then why the fuck can't the same be done with systemd to show that it's a piece of shit
08:16 <@Mirage_> heh.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da4uHSerB4Y
08:17 < PigBot> Judge Cites "Dead Parrot" Sketch in Support of Lawsuit - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yhkzp2yf
08:18 <@Dagmar> Yes.  Such fun watching a grown man read a teleprompter for something that shouldn't strain a small burst of SMS messages
08:19 <@Dagmar> I suppose we could encourage the systemd developers to go ahead and take over initramfs and provide developers with the ability to send messages via dbus
08:19 <@Dagmar> @#$@#$
09:02 <@Mirage_> Trump may have won TX in the election, but apparently a majority of republicans here are not impressed by his actions afterward.  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/28/voters-reject-trump-republican-texas-election-jake-ellzey
09:02 < PigBot> Voters reject Trump-endorsed Republican in Texas special election | Republicans | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com) https://tinyurl.com/yfkxog4j
09:08 < Evilpig> I saw that this morning and laughed.  it seemed like tx was a lock for his nonsense
09:09 <@Dagmar> Probably enough stupid republicans have died from COVID to change that
09:09 <@Dagmar> I mean, after all, the ones that are most likely to run around to super-spreader events are also the ones likely to not have a problem with voting in person
09:12 <@jb7od> That's crossed my mind- no matter how intellectually advanced a group may assume itself be, that whole natural selection thing..
09:37 <@Dagmar> I'm eagerly awaiting variant Lambda, which will probably have developed quite a taste for specifically, republicans.
09:53 <@Dolemite> Well, I guess it's a pretty good sign when you come out of a production readiness review and you get compliments by group leaders that you don't report to (in addition to your own)
09:54 <@Dagmar> BEHOLD!  A HIPAA violation has become sentient and launched it's own website!
09:54 <@Dagmar> https://www.sanebox.com/
09:54 < PigBot> SaneBox | Email Management for Any Inbox (at www.sanebox.com) https://tinyurl.com/9fy2ggm
12:05 < Evilpig> Dagmar: will they click on these phishing emails for me?
12:51 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: You've used/still use FreeNAS/TrueNAS, right?
13:41 <@Mirage_> yes
13:43 <@Mirage_> Running 2 instances right now, one on bare metal and one as a VM
13:43 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: When you want to swap out a drive with a larger one, is the volume expansion pretty seamless?   Or is it a major pain in the ass?
13:45 <@Dolemite> Since my desktop won't run Win 11 (no TPM) I've kinda convinced Pamela that I'll need to upgrade it, soon.   It's a beast with 8 cores and 32 GB memory and a nice phat GeForce video card in it...   and lots of bays in the tower case.   Thinking of running TrueNAS + Plex on it, which will allow me to utilize the GPU for transcoding.
13:45 <@Mirage_> well, if you did striped for the pool then it's pretty seamless...if you did one of the zfs raid options then you're supposed to have to expand with the same number of disks
13:45 <@Mirage_> Ah, nice
13:45 <@Dolemite> Hrmm, don't they kind of steer you towards zfs?
13:46 <@Dolemite> So if I did standard RAID 5 config it's pretty simple?
13:46 <@Mirage_> you have to do zfs, it's just a question of which scheme you do...essentially like raid 0-6
13:46 <@Dolemite> ah, gotcha
13:46 <@Dolemite> I can't remember what RAID 6 is...   will have to wikipedia that one
13:47 <@Dolemite> Ah, RAID 5 + extra parityh
13:47 <@Dolemite> -h
13:47 < Evilpig> yup  two disks parity
13:47 <@Mirage_> so the same raid mentality rules apply...you can't normally grow a 4 disk array by an additional disk without rebuilding the array
13:47 <@Dolemite> But if I had 5 disks it's just a matter of hot swappery
13:48 <@Dolemite> Right now I have 8 drives in a Drobo iSCSI array
13:48 <@Mirage_> yeah...though just like with a raid array, if you have a 1T disk configures and it dies, then you replace it with a 2T then you can only use 1T of it.
13:49 <@Dolemite> But I only have gigabit networking.  I did, at least, put a dedicated link from the Drobo to the proxmox box and give it a completely different subnet.
13:49 <@Mirage_> I haven't tried, but you could probably replace 1T drives w/ 2T drives one at a time, then create a second pool on top of the other w/ the excess
13:50 <@Dolemite> Well what I was thinking of was buying 3 x 6 TB drives to start off, then after I migrate the data off of the Drobo, I can free up some 4 TB drives from it and add to the TrueNAS box
13:50 <@Mirage_> for streaming, etc I don't think gag will be a problem.  I wanted 10G on mine because I'm running 2 ESXi environments backed to it, plus plex, plus my normal storage I used to have on my physical "main" server
13:51 <@Dolemite> So it's more about adding drives to the volume than replacing - at least, initially
13:51 <@Mirage_> yeah, you'd just have a couple pools then...one with the 6T drives and one with the 4T drives
13:53 <@Dolemite> So you can't expand the pool to increase redundancy?
13:53 <@Dolemite> Basically like the Drobo does.   You add drives, it expands and makes things more redundant for you.
13:59 <@Mirage_> By my understanding if you create a 3x6T pool then you have to expand it by 3x6T if you want to grow it in the future.   I haven't tried, so I dunno.  You can add/remove hot-swap drives, cache drives, etc
14:05 <@Dolemite> https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/pull/8853
14:05 < PigBot> [WIP] raidz expansion, alpha preview 1 by ahrens · Pull Request #8853 · openzfs/zfs · GitHub (at github.com) https://tinyurl.com/tftfvj4
14:06 <@Dolemite> Or even better, https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/pull/12225
14:06 < PigBot> RAIDZ Expansion feature by ahrens · Pull Request #12225 · openzfs/zfs · GitHub (at github.com) https://tinyurl.com/ygjcqnmc
14:11 <@Mirage_> Yeah, but who knows when it will actually be incorporated into TrueNAS.
14:11 <@Dolemite> yep
14:13 <@Mirage_> I shouldn't have to worry about it much since I used all the disks from that Drobo 1200i I picked up for $400.  Wasn't too impressed by the 1200i as far as speed/connectivity/options went, but $400 for a bunch of enterprise SAS drives is a steal
14:14 <@Mirage_> zfs2-pool1 (System Dataset Pool)
14:14 <@Mirage_> ONLINE    check_circle  |  4.35 TiB (24%) Used  |  13.76 TiB Free 
14:15 <@Mirage_> That's more than enough for me.  Of course that might barely be enough pig to store his midget pr0n
14:17 <@Dolemite> Speaking of which
14:17 <@Dolemite> I was drinking at a bar the other night and this midget chick was sitting next to me
14:17 <@Mirage_> left-handed albino eskimo?
14:17 <@Dolemite> After a couple of hours (and many beers) she leaned over to me and said, "How 'bout we go out back and I'll go UP on you?"
14:18 <@Mirage_> heh
14:18 <@Dolemite> Would have been much more believable coming from NotLarry
14:19 <@Mirage_> in case you didn't get my refernce:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnPRmjw68k
14:20 < PigBot> The Dead Milkmen - Lesbian Eskimo Midget Albino [aka Sarah Jane] [HQ] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yz94z9hn
14:23 <@Mirage_> Heh, a girl I knew from HS just posted this on FB:  "My birthday party is on the 21st of August at 8pm. Everyone is invited!!! We will be at NIGHTTRIPS (41st & Sheridan)
14:23 <@Mirage_> Let me know if y'all are coming...I really hope to see y'all there!!!"
14:23 <@Mirage_> Night Trips is a strip club in Tulsa..where she used to work back after HS when it was called Scarlett's
14:28 <@Dolemite> LOL
14:28 <@Dolemite> Sounds like when I worked at Bluestar
14:29 <@Dolemite> Found out that one of the girls in HR was someone I went to high school with...   Shelly Cooter.   Then I found out that she'd kept her married/divorced name because it was much better that her coworkers at her moonlighting job - at Deja Vu - not know her maiden name.
14:30 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to call it a day
15:10 < Evilpig> Mirage_: I've been talked to ash the last week about expanding my storage
15:10 < Evilpig> likely about to add 72TB more
15:11 <@Mirage_> It's cheaper to just reencode it all
15:12 < Evilpig> I've got a couple options on the table. the one I like the most simplifies the setup but will leave me with only 35TB of free space after a bunch of moving around.  the other option will give me roughly 72TB - 100TB new space and I won't have to touch anything again for about three years
15:12 < Evilpig> I have some reencoding jobs running but there's too much.  the time to encode all of it down is just too much.
15:13 < Evilpig> using the hardware decoder it drops stuff to x265 but the file sizes stay the same.  if I want to drop the file size and keep the quality I have to do cpu encoding which I just don't have enough ooompf for
15:14 <@Mirage_> Can't use ffmpeg to do it?
15:15 < Evilpig> I'm using handbrake which uses ffmpeg, but all my systems here at the house are old.  they just don't have a ton of CPU power to throw at it
15:16 < Evilpig> I'll try dicking around with the hardware encoder again to see if I can get the file size down smaller while keeping the quality up.
15:17 < Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ztnccsk46i0h2c/Screen%20Shot%202021-07-28%20at%203.16.41%20PM.png?dl=0
15:17 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screen Shot 2021-07-28 at 3.16.41 PM.png - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) https://tinyurl.com/yz685shg
15:17 <@Mirage_> What about that quatro?
15:17 < Evilpig> has the same hardware issue.  it just doesn't compress enough
15:18 <@Mirage_> Of course you probably aren't willing to reencode to 1080
15:18 < Evilpig> I'll play with my profiles again and see if I can get it to shrink smaller without losing quality on the hwardware.  when I have used it in the past it's fast as shit
15:20 < Evilpig> crap.  I need to take the dogs out and I think it's raining
15:44 <@Mirage_> God, I wish... 97.7 °F
15:44 <@Mirage_> Feels Like 112.0 °
16:04 < Evilpig> ours says it feels like 96.  it might be.  it wasn't too awful and it wasn't raining
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19:11 <@Dagmar> Heh.  Phil Valentine is now on a respirator.
19:12 <@Dagmar> The dumb radio station has posted that he "chose" to be put on a respirator
19:49 <@Mirage_> good for them: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/28/1021946563/lollapalooza-to-require-vaccination-card-or-negative-test-to-attend-the-festival
19:49 < PigBot> Lollapalooza To Require Vaccination Card Or Negative Test To Attend The Festival : NPR (at www.npr.org) https://tinyurl.com/yevg7kll
19:59 <@Dagmar> Good
19:59 <@Dagmar> I'm expecting Ministry's Tour to be announcing a postponement or cancellation again
20:21 < xtort-> Aren't those fucks 80 years old by now?
20:40 < Evilpig> Dagmar: I see your dumb radio station content and raise you even dumber something....   https://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/illinois-seeks-ben-jerrys-divestment-over-israel-stance/article_c552f046-f005-11eb-acba-ef148ca80edc.html
20:40 < PigBot> Illinois seeks Ben & Jerry's divestment over Israel stance | News | WPSD Local 6 (at www.wpsdlocal6.com) https://tinyurl.com/yk3hlcvq
20:40 < Evilpig> "State law prohibits investment in companies that boycott Israel over its occupation of territories won in war from Palestinians."
20:40 <@Dagmar> There's a smart move.
20:41 <@Dagmar> Selling interest in ice cream companies during the hottest part of the year.
21:23 <@Dagmar> Considering that B&J has taken an _ethical_ stance on the subject, it's fairly crap that the state legislature is even making an issue out of it.
21:23 <@Dagmar> They should just divest the stock and move the fuck on instead of conspicuously asking B&J to compromise their _morals_.
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