--- Log opened Sun Jul 25 00:00:51 2021
00:03 <@jb7od> discord is taking over. Man.. for something that seemed to start simultaneously with my son and his minecraft friends and ragey mmo guy my age, it really has taken off. 
00:10 <@jb7od> in the beginning it was anybody's PTT/chat thing. Seems like there were a little few of them and they worked together to whatever extent they would (heavier on the ptt), but damn- it's like Llamasoft or Propellorheads, except succeeding. 
00:49 <@jb7od> one of my least favorite parts of the Andrew Lee pwning of freenode was the dogwhistle "we are irc!" 
00:54 <@jb7od> the fuck they are. They couldn't get anope running on (because of not compiling the ircd with ssl support or trying to run with debian's maintianer certs- which are out-of-the-box probs with the maintainer ircds) so I can't even say they "are IRC users" but that's about as far as it goes. 
00:58 <@jb7od> IRC is way more IRC than they are so far. 
01:00 <@jb7od> (commenting out the author does not count)
02:23 <@jb7od> VERSION BitchX-1.3-git+ by panasync - Linux 4.19.0-17-686-pae : Keep it to yourself!
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03:15 <@jb7od> http://www.se2600.org/ still says freenode btw. 
03:15 < PigBot> 2600 something or the other (at www.se2600.org) https://tinyurl.com/2b5vckz
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09:00 < Evilpig> changed
09:03 < xtort-> fine work
09:09 < Evilpig> stupid chia farming asshats
09:09 < Evilpig> over the past 15 months the price for 16TB drives has not gone down at all
09:49 <@aestetix> https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/24/covid-vaccine-push-rural-500717
09:49 < PigBot> In Alabama and Louisiana, partisan opposition to vaccine surges alongside Delta variant - POLITICO (at www.politico.com) https://tinyurl.com/yg2z2lof
09:49 <@aestetix> this is such a bizarre article
10:25 < Evilpig> "fuck you! I won't do what you tell me!"
10:41 <@aestetix> you're supposed to say that to your parents, not your doctor
11:09 <@_NSAKEY> jb7od: Was that seriously a problem re: anope? LOL
11:10 <@_NSAKEY> The problem with IRC adoption these days is that the newer people coming up didn't have to deal with it growing up, so they just see it as some ancient, neckbearded thing that's entirely optional. So, they stick to slack, discord, or whatever.
11:39 < Mirage> I'm leaning toward 1) Reinstate mask mandates in every county until at least 80% of the population is immunized, 2) Deny anyone who is COVID positive from admission to the hospital.
11:39 < Mirage> Fuck'em!
11:40 < Mirage> Most of them, IMO, are just proving they're a waste of space anyway.
11:40 < Mirage> Family members included
11:41 < Mirage> Grandparents were telling me last night that some nurses in Tulsa are now refusing to wear a mask and then raising a stink when they're essentially told, "No mask, no job"
11:42 <@_NSAKEY> Mirage: The only problem with that is that the hippocratic oath doesn't have a footnote.
11:43 <@_NSAKEY> Keep in mind, I don't disagree with you. These people who refused to get vaccinated because "it's a personal choice" should own the consequences of their personal choice and die without going to a hospital.
11:43 <@_NSAKEY> They get zero respect from me for waffling on their decision.
11:43 < Mirage> Last time I checked, hospital administrators don't have to be doctors, and are therefore not under oath.  
11:45 <@_NSAKEY> One thing I thought about earlier is the fact that if the parties were flipped and Trump was president, he'd probably turn off the spigot on the vaccines just so the people who aren't his supporters die in large numbers
11:45 < Mirage> Plenty of people w/o ins get turned away from for-profit hospitals if whatever they came in for isn't immediately life threatening...and I wouldn't be suprised if some of those are as well.
12:12 < xtort-> hospitals have to provide stabilizing care regardless of ability to pay
13:27 <@aestetix> I just talked with my parents, who live in the US. My mom works at a college
13:27 <@aestetix> Apparently only 18% of incoming students have been vaccinated for COVID
13:27 <@aestetix> what the fuck
14:13 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: I wonder if they're of the Jenny McCarthy or Fox News (until last week) school of antivax
14:44 <@aestetix> I mean
14:45 <@aestetix> the "covid vaccine causes autism" excuse was reasonable 6-8 months ago
14:45 <@aestetix> but now there is lots of evidence and science against that
14:45 <@aestetix> so there is no excuse
14:59 <@aestetix> https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/jul/19/peppa-pig-american-kids-british-accents
14:59 < PigBot> Having a go: US parents say Peppa Pig is giving their kids British accents | Peppa Pig | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com) https://tinyurl.com/yhny2flj
15:00 <@aestetix> it's the guardian, so I'm not sure how much you can trust it, but that is pretty funny
15:08 <@_NSAKEY> I can understand taking a wait and see approach when the vaccine was brand new, but even by the time I got my 2nd shot (April), that stance was stupid and unreasonable.
16:03 <@jb7od> _NSAKEY, yeah, I'm not sure that the root cause was ssl, but it was a double-wipe back to back and the tea was that they couldn't get anope working and switched- there was an hour or two after the first 'wipe' when they put the second up, constituting a second wipe
16:05 <@jb7od> _NSAKEY, it was just a trip to me because that's exactly what you get with hybrid and anope using all-maintainer Debstuff
16:07 <@jb7od> and being that it faces you with recompiling the ircd, switching services would be the only move.
16:10 <@jb7od> I need to find what log that's in to see who actually blurted that out, but there were some number of guys who'd registered before finding out the anope wasn't working that came in like "but I just registered again..." and they told those guys it was "down" (but not that it wasn't coming back on)
16:18 <@jb7od> It's all in here somewhere: http://mfphmusic.com/00/%23freenode.log
16:18 < PigBot> None (at mfphmusic.com) https://tinyurl.com/ydj6fumj
16:18 <@jb7od> (plus me being told what a libtard I am)
16:18 <@jb7od> Jun 16 18:07:00 <Saphir>	anope is pretty stable normally wonder why it makes trouble here with lost accounts
16:19 <@jb7od> Jun 16 18:21:00 <ldlework>	Saphir: I don't know the actual underlying issue with anope, but something something their sql integration is garbo.
16:33 < Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebn9KSTi_yU
16:33 < PigBot> Mike Rowe: How We've Set Up the Workforce for Failure - Dirty Jobs | Praise on TBN - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/ygh8thbw
16:53 < Mirage> what a name... https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/msg/d/mckinney-electroharmonix-big-muff-pi/7356083248.html
16:53 < PigBot> Electroharmonix Big Muff Pi - musical instruments - by owner - sale (at dallas.craigslist.org) https://tinyurl.com/yz7jrqp8
17:09 <@jb7od> Mirage, good post on the job thing. I remember the first time I thought about IT as a job- I was about 10 and I had this friend whose dad worked at NorTel, worse a labcoat and sneakers, had a calculator watch, and was the single coolest adult I'd ever seen. 
17:10 <@jb7od> back then, it was "Computer Science" which was decamped into software/hardware vocation by the time I got to college by a mere couple of years. 
17:13 <@jb7od> I'm shopping for an apprentice by the way- I'd hoped I could get an intern from NSCC, but now that society has collapsed as much as it has, that's kind of out the window, but since br0therfrank died, that's my plan B. I'll turn whoever into a super-soldier by the time they get sick of my shit. 
17:16 <@jb7od> (but just to equalize out the TBN vibes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6FkDC5Qaxg
17:16 < PigBot> David McCallum Reads the Rats in the Walls by H.P. Lovecraft - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/y8x9lx5m
17:17 <@jb7od> kali went to OFTC :l 
17:17 <@jb7od> I'd have rather they started their own like blackarch
18:19 < Mirage> The subject is just pitiful...but the best part is the public service message at the end of the video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewn8JSTIdbc
18:19 < PigBot> Towing Co Fined for Selling Off Cars Owned by Active Troops - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yfnfto9f
18:21 < Mirage> In case anyone doesn't get the reference (which I doubt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmqeZl8OI2M
18:22 < PigBot> Happy Fun Ball - SNL - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/roxzxrm
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