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00:01 <@jb7od_> All this "everybody-go-remote" instant double-workload would have gone down a whole lot better if we had. At the same time, it'd on;y underline how unacceptably slow the office is, but wtf do I know? Now that they're noticing, I'm sure the emails make more sense and actually did call for the Chicken Little routine. Why gamble? It's always an "i told you so", but no colsolation. 
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00:02 <@jb7od> Gross. they moved me from lead to cadmium.. lol
00:08 <@jb7od> http://mfphmusic.com/00/libera/YYfLvmN.png
00:08 < PigBot> None (at mfphmusic.com) https://tinyurl.com/ye2xzkmg
00:08 <@jb7od> http://mfphmusic.com/00/libera/uHlOeCY.png
00:08 < PigBot> None (at mfphmusic.com) https://tinyurl.com/yjdahx4t
00:10 <@jb7od> Future MOTDs. I'd kind of imagined more of a 3-d scrabble piece kind of vibe, but the color is on it's way to a fair compromise
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00:13 <@jb7od> Think it's worth it to do your own DNS? Seems like it'd draw a bunch of gnats, but it'd sure help. 
00:15 <@Mirage_> Do your own DNS for what?  Domains you own?
00:26 <@jb7od> Externally facing, yes, for multiple domains all over the place
00:39 <@Mirage_> I do my own, pretty sure pig does too.  I also use https://freedns.afraid.org/ for my backup DNS servers
00:39 < PigBot> FreeDNS - Free DNS - Dynamic DNS - Static DNS subdomain and domain hosting (at freedns.afraid.org) https://tinyurl.com/9xg9ulk
00:41 <@Mirage_> DNS isn't hard, which is why Dag and I get so bent out of shape when people manage to severely fuck it up
02:34 <@jb7od> It's fuckuppable for sure. 
02:37 <@jb7od> I'm considering it. It's been a drag b/c I've got some godaddy hosting, some xo, and the xo ns are half sun-setted, and it needs updating, but they're spotty between each other- oh and ATT and Linode, those goons too. 
02:40 <@jb7od> there's some idiosyncratic behavior no matter which, so it's def got some appeal. You'd be surprised at what lengths some would-be botlords will put into gangbanging a dovecot that is off, and I'm definitely not trying for any more attention that way
02:59 <@jb7od> So lose two 16Gb keys. One's a bootable 10, the other a bootable kali, and the son of a bitch of it is I think this everything-eating fu&k%ead dog ate them. Had just had to do a "Nonononoo.." and take them out of her mouth just before never seeing them again. 
05:25 <@Dagmar> DNS is farking easy
05:26 <@Dagmar> If yuou restrict zone transfers and don't bind the control port to an external interface the risks are pretty minimal
06:03 < aestetix> ok this is cool
06:03 < aestetix> I found a tool that can grab pages off the internet archive. I managed to find the copies of the PN7 tshirt I made. I thought that had been lost to history
06:04 < aestetix> https://imgur.com/a/j70QvQi
06:04 < PigBot> Imgur: The magic of the Internet (at imgur.com) https://tinyurl.com/yecdskt8
06:09 <@Dolemite_> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:15 <@Evilpig> holy shit... rick and morty this week.  good god
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07:46 < xtort-> Good? Bad? Haven't watched it yet
07:49 < aestetix> oh shit
07:49 <@Dolemite> xtort-: When is Rick & Morty NOT so bad that it wraps around the other end to become good?
07:49 < aestetix> I need to watch it
07:49 <@Dolemite> That's the entire premise of the series
07:50 < xtort-> Like... Did it wrap far around as to be good again?
07:51 <@Dolemite> I haven't watched it yet
07:51 < xtort-> Archer kinda did that too, but wrapped around a few times and stopped on "shit" for a few seasons
07:56 <@Evilpig> I'm not ruining this one.  it's got a whole load of damn
08:22 <@_NSAKEY> lol, I'm still sitting on freenode and got spam for some shitcoin. Things continue to fall over there.
08:23 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: Agreed 100%. I couldn't stop laughing when I watched it last night.
08:34 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: have a good chuckle at what the kid is learning today.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujhfdp5610ldm8q/Screen%20Shot%202021-07-12%20at%208.33.47%20AM.png?dl=0
08:34 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screen Shot 2021-07-12 at 8.33.47 AM.png - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) https://tinyurl.com/yjg3vrsx
08:34 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: You are an evil, evil man
08:34 <@Evilpig> she picked it
08:35 <@Evilpig> she started in JS, went to html, and apparently today is that
08:35 <@Dolemite> Patrick is studying to take his learner's permit written test
08:38 <@Evilpig> thank bob I don't have to worry about that for another 3 years
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08:53 < PigBot> None (at dumbfucks.org:8448) https://tinyurl.com/yfmz37n4
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08:54 < PigBot> None (at dumbfucks.org:8448) https://tinyurl.com/ygpxp4e8
08:54 < xtort-> Office flooded
08:54 <@Dolemite> That your office?
08:54 <@Evilpig> that looks like fun
08:55 < xtort-> Yup, that's my office
08:55 <@eryc> are you playing frogger
08:55 < xtort-> Yup
08:56 <@jb7od> ooooh! nopes... dam. 
09:26 <@Mirage_> https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/oregon-bans-buyer-love-letters/283-2168d502-c3a9-4dcd-8225-e0a255c6a5f3?distinct_id=0cpoGW0bm&user_email=marcvita%40ebby.com
09:26 < PigBot> Oregon becomes first state to outlaw home buyer love letters | kgw.com (at www.kgw.com) https://tinyurl.com/yhjapjv3
09:27 <@Mirage_> Personally I've never even heard of these or this being a thing.
09:27 <@Dolemite> Oh, they most definitely are
09:27 <@Dolemite> Right now it's pretty much expected if you want a chance at getting your bid accepted
09:29 <@Mirage_> Personally I do think that part of the disclosures to sellers should be intended use of the buyer...as in buying it to live in vs buying as a rental property.   We really weren't that happy about our last house apparently going to a rental company after all the work we'd put into getting it fixed up.
09:48 <@Dagmar> no way to enforce it
10:00 <@jb7od> oracle is talking about moving here?
10:02 <@jb7od> That may not be news yet. Whoever does the con should make friends for sponsorship and embrace those dudes... js. 
10:05 <@_NSAKEY> That's old news
10:05 <@_NSAKEY> PN hasn't been near that site in over a decade, at this point. I doubt it'll ever go back.
10:05 <@Dagmar> They're just moving here for cheap call center labor
10:05 <@Dagmar> No one comes to Nashville to do tech
10:06 <@jb7od> Supposedly the weather not being 130 is a factor.
10:06 <@Dolemite> They likely want to be close to the other Healthcare Info Systems companies in Nashville
10:06 <@Dolemite> You don't build out a campus for a call center, though
10:06 <@Dagmar> YEah you do
10:06 <@Dagmar> because it's cheap
10:06 <@Dolemite> Uh, no
10:06 <@Dagmar> ..and then you move the few skilled management you care about there
10:07 <@_NSAKEY> That's what most of these companies are doing, although Alliance Bernstein actually moved all but like their front office people here.
10:07 <@Dolemite> So anyway, technically they already sponsored PN.  I charged the first PN that I ran on my AmEx, which was backed by SUNOracle
10:07 <@Dagmar> Dell is a perfect example
10:07 <@Dagmar> They literally didnt' plan on hiring anyone locally with an IQ over 95
10:07 <@jb7od> I'm just saying if they do come, they'd probably throw some bucks at computer enthusiasm. Nashville loves that unity grassroots vibe stuff. We gotta show oracle where to get drugs, I mean think about it for a sec..
10:08 <@jb7od> No joke though, climate. They want better climate. 
10:08 <@jb7od> Those over there that do, supposedly. 
10:09 <@Dagmar> FB intends to hire no technical staff from here. Google intends to hire no technical staff from here.
10:09 <@Dagmar> Oracle might be considerably more hide-bound, but I have no reason to believe they're looking at Nashville as anything other than cheap publicity and call center labor
10:09 <@jb7od> I'd probably want my warehouse of wage slaves to have the best pens money could buy, so makes sense to me. Shits almost bombed out mad max in places. 
10:10 <@jb7od> Me neither, but they want to be accepted by nashville
10:12 <@jb7od> Word on the street could definitely be "f oracle", that's up to them. lol
10:13 <@Dagmar> The only thing remotely good about it is that there'll be more competition for what Amazon and Oracle consider to be "unskilled labor"
10:17 <@jb7od> I'm not exceedingly proud of my first job, but if you beat that boss, there's a NOC up there somewhere- I hear ya, and for a certain segment, yeah, but as something for their first gig ever, everybody has something like that back there when they started (I did anyway, even contracted- weird freelance stuff)
10:28 <@Dagmar> The only place to go if someone "beats that boss" with these places is another city
10:29 <@Dagmar> *sigh.  `du -sh /*`
10:33 <@jb7od> True, but there are lateral jumps you can make- interviews come up, it happens. I changed jobs every 3 years for the first part of it, and some was for real trash, you just gotta bring something useful to the table. 
10:33 <@jb7od> I don't shun on anybody who did a tour of duty at dell, even on a tow-motor, you never know what cats have under the hood. 
10:34 <@Dagmar> But you know the hood is made of shit
10:34 <@jb7od> That fucked up helpdesk where they grade you-- that's so gross. 
10:34 <@jb7od> That's just toxic. 
10:35 <@Dagmar> Yeah when I left it was becuse I wasn't making metrics.  Metrics which the phone selection system are designed from the ground up for no one to meet.
10:35 <@Dagmar> ...except they fucked up earlier in that last week and I actually had someone who ran a doctor's office and I sold them $37k of stuff
10:35 <@Dagmar> I sold it to them for the right reasons because they needed it.
10:36 <@Dagmar> So... the exit interview was pretty hilarious.
10:37 <@jb7od> oh shit man- had no idea- but yeah, I've met some kids from the gaming vector, so really I'm not so sure I'm comfortable underestimating the hood. Console mods have caught on in certain quarters. 
10:37 <@Dagmar> I'd heard a rumor that you could not get hired by Dell a second time, which would mean they'd be a "no rehire" reference
10:37 <@jb7od> I didn't have any sort of respect for them, nor them me, but we came to an understanding... lol
10:37 <@Dagmar> I made it clear to them, if they told anyone I was not hirable, I would sue.  Period.
10:38 <@Dagmar> These were also guys that was aware I was getting calls from the FBI about forensics stuff during my breaks.  heh
10:39 <@Dagmar> Other than that the exit interview was pretty cordial.  They were okay guys and they knew they were unfortunately stuck in a shitshow
10:39 <@jb7od> Damn- I always wondered if that was how it was just anywhere, there, the isp, the pbx, just the Feds call up on the phone 
10:39 <@Dagmar> Well, they needed to ask me stuff about a investigation I'd gone on
10:39 <@Dagmar> heh
10:39 <@Dagmar> Phone calls are fine
10:40 <@jb7od> that's gangster.
10:40 <@jb7od> But yeah, I always figured if you chilled in one of those ATT dsl offices, just the feds call and/or come by. 
10:43 <@jb7od> The real crown gem of jobs- don't forget I made it to "lead technician / sales" buisness card in 4 years at $99 Internet ready computers
10:44 <@jb7od> lka "Advancedd Technologies Inc." that was it's real name. 
10:47 <@jb7od> That was some weird shit man. lol
10:58  * Evilpig slaps jb7od with a trout
10:58 <@Evilpig> that color combo is awful and I hate you
10:59 <@jb7od> lol
11:00 <@jb7od> Everyone did. It inspired hate in all who gazed upon it. another $30 dialup modem? installed!
11:02 <@Evilpig> why did the canadians get this Rick and Morty-5x07-Gotron Jerrysis Rickvangelion  like three weeks before we're supposed to get it?
12:13 < aestetix> Evilpig: wow that was next level
12:14 < aestetix> lol reddit hates it
12:14 < aestetix> I thought it was hilarious
12:30 <@_NSAKEY> Which subreddit is crying about that episode?
12:31 < aestetix> r/rickandmorty
12:32 < aestetix> apparently it's a bunch of soyboy millennials
12:32 <@_NSAKEY> they're just jealous that they don't get to fertilize summer's giant egg
12:32 < aestetix> hahahah
12:54 <@Dagmar> I think I can tell why they're in a snit just from the name of the episode
12:54 <@Dagmar> "SOMEONE HAS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OUR PRECIOUS EVANGELION WHICH IS LESS THAN GLOWING PRAISE!"
12:59 < aestetix> I always love how fans of a show get upset about it
13:00 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: That was an ep that mistakenly got released
13:00 < aestetix> fans who did nothing at all, and then complain that it's not perfect to their standards
13:01 < aestetix> and think the show owes them something
13:01 <@Dagmar> Well, part of one of those sort of ended on a concept art slideshow
13:25 <@Dagmar> As I understand it, it wasn't a mistake.  They were out of money.
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14:53 <@Evilpig> as far as a concept with the sperm and egg.  it's hilarious.
15:53 <@Evilpig> LOL they named teh baby.  "Naruto"
21:03 <@jb7od> Dagmar, despite the brutal flamejob on that blockchain for network tweet, Etherium is front and center on github topics... <_<
21:03 <@jb7od> "a decentralized platform that runs contract-based applications without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third-party interference."
21:37 <@jb7od> https://www.govinfosecurity.com/us-senate-approves-jen-easterly-as-cisa-director-a-17056
21:37 < PigBot> US Senate Approves Jen Easterly As CISA Director (at www.govinfosecurity.com) https://tinyurl.com/yec93kp9
21:40 <@jb7od> My entire life has been lived in the shadow of hoping that our govt would eternally have better sense than to try to jump out there and try and legislate these kids and the cyber. 
21:46 <@jb7od> and breaking self-signed certs on purpose like this is where I think we need to fork the whole gd internet. Not trusting your own cert you just wrote is several major fallacies at once. 
21:47 <@jb7od> that's skynet...
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