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02:44 <@aestetix> as long as I can use irc without needing an electron app that takes up 2 gigs of memory...
05:08 <@aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whpmEpDxJA8
05:08 <@aestetix> I am thinking that this video is less american slang and more american teen slang
05:08 <@PigBot> 21 American Slang Words You Need In 2021 | Go Natural English - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/ygd2hat5
05:13 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
05:18  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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06:01 <@aestetix> guess there's no need to be on freenode anymore
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06:03 <@Dolemite> There we go.   Finally found the last reference in my config that was autoconnecting to freenode.
06:05 <@aestetix> now the one thing is
06:05 <@aestetix> freenode staff was complaining that libera staff are all communist
06:05 <@aestetix> but.... ideally I should never encounter libera staff
06:08 <@Dolemite> I never encountered any of the staff on freenode, don't see why I would on another network
06:08 <@aestetix> exactly
06:08 <@aestetix> I never encountered freenode staff either
06:08 <@aestetix> so if libera staffers are communist.... good for them, I don't care
06:13 <@Dolemite> They're likely more libertarian
06:13 <@aestetix> again I don't care
06:13 <@aestetix> as long as they leave me alone
06:14 <@Dolemite> But you know, every conservative seems to consider anybody to their left to be a communist
06:21 <@aestetix> I just watched an interview with the journalist Bari Weiss
06:21 <@aestetix> was interesting. she was at the WSJ as the token left-wing journalist, and then left and went to the NYT, where she was the token right-wing journalist
06:21 <@aestetix> and she got heat from both sides.
06:28 <@aestetix> zoom court is hilarious
06:28 <@aestetix> people who smoke joints on zoom while they are contesting drug charges
06:39 <@Dagmar> It's rather likely they're calling them communists because 1) the freenode staff are just stupid kids and 2) the libera staff are talking about "commons" and "communal resources"
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07:19 < lastchild> that's better
07:35 <@Evilpig> feels weird being back home again
08:00 <@_NSAKEY> I also remember the confusion over the stuff about the new staff being trumpanzees. That's become more apparent the longer I've stared at #freenode. I'm wiht aestetix in generally not caring about IRC staff on a given network. They should ideally be invisible.
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08:06 <@Dolemite> I wonder if this is their play to take over a "social media network" that allows them "free speech"
08:06 <@Mirage_> Dolemite: After some back/forth the solar fan thermostat replacement got sent out and I just crawled up on the roof and installed it.  Will see what the temps in the attic look like later on.  Yesterday the highest I saw was 138.  
08:06 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: Yikes.
08:07 <@Mirage_> Pretty much zero wind, clear skies, hot as hell outside..so that attic just bakes w/o a fan.   A/C is installed in the attic, so it getting that hot up there is hard on the unit.
08:09 <@_NSAKEY> Dolemite: I don't know, but I've gotten just enough whiffs of fresh MAGA trash that I'll probably drop my nick within the next week or so, once the #freenode drama has stopped being funny
08:11 <@aestetix> _NSAKEY: is it worth going in there to try and troll?
08:16 <@_NSAKEY> I would say not
08:16 <@aestetix> Last night, they were really stupid and dense
08:17 <@_NSAKEY> There's likely not a line of approach that would get a proper rise out of them
08:19 <@Dolemite> Surely it would have been cheaper for Lee to just stand up a whole new irc.maga.chat network
08:19 <@_NSAKEY> We don't know what he paid for freenode ltd in 2017
08:20 <@_NSAKEY> and honestly? let the trumptards set their cash on fire
08:20 <@Dolemite> Because I'd think that if it slants that way, a lot of the voluntary server admins will voluntarily disconnect from the network
08:23 <@_NSAKEY> I haven't paid much attention, but I'm sure they've dragged out the "centrist" meme already
08:24 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: Oh, and your 120mm->90mm adapter is currently printing
08:25 <@Dolemite> I had white filament loaded, so you get white.   LOL
08:39 <@Mirage_> Dolemite: cool
09:21 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: So how much are these selling for on eBay?
10:05 <@Mirage_> ~$17-18
10:17 <@Dolemite> heh, ok.  Costs about $0.90 worth of filament and wear/tear on the printer (about 4 hours to print)
10:17 <@Mirage_> Told ya, opportunity for some side $$ on ebay
10:18 <@Dolemite> Maybe.   Depends on whether any fish are biting.   But I might make one and toss it up there for $12 + shipping.
10:18 <@Mirage_> Out of all the ones listed, only one is US based...and that is also the only one listed as an Auction vs  Buy it now
10:48 <@Dolemite> Well, crap.   print failed on the last 20%.
10:49 <@Dolemite> Aha, needs supports.
10:52 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: I'm sure you've done this...   I want to hide a Submit button on initial page load, then unhide it after an AJAX call.   You recall the best way to handle that?
11:01 <@Dolemite> $('#submitButton).hide(); of course.  Duh.
11:02 <@Dolemite> But with properly closing that single quote
12:44 <@Mirage_> Yeah, so apparently Spectrum submitted the /24 network that my /29 is carved out of to the Spamhaus PBL list.  I submitted a request to Spamhaus to get removed, but now I'm having fun trying to find anyone with a clue at Spectrum to resolve the root cause...otherwise I'll just wind up on the list again.
12:45 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I gave up on the struggle of running an MX out of the house many years ago
12:46 <@Dolemite> I have my gateway box here at the house use a TLS client cert to relay through my DigitalOcean droplet
13:09 <@Mirage_> So, per Spamhaus:  "The Policy Blocklist (PBL) is a list of IP space that should not be sending email direct to MX: often these are IP ranges assigned by ISPs to broadband or dial-up customers, but the PBL does include other types of IP space. Any IP space that should not be sending email directly to the Internet should be listed in PBL."
13:10 <@Mirage_> Per Spectrum: "We don't know anything about it or what to tell you, we don't show any security flags on the account or IPs assigned to you."
13:18 <@xtort-> most endpoints reject mail from consumer IPs
13:18 <@xtort-> or... home IPs
13:18 <@xtort-> i feel like i'm having a stroke, no way to type what i mean
13:19 <@jb7od> dnsbl woes?
13:23 <@jb7od> whaaa- that's cold blooded- I've never messed with the PBL, but that's lame to db up all the isp ranges like that. 
13:27 <@Dolemite> Well, in all honesty, it's long overdue
13:28 <@Mirage_> From one of our DevOps guys: "You're a regex expert, how do I write this filter..."
13:29 <@Mirage_> Me: Um, noone is a regex expert.  
13:29 <@Dolemite> Corydon is, but that's the nature of being a pedant
13:29 <@Mirage_> He's really good at it, but even he has to look stuff up.
13:30 <@Dagmar> Compared to normies, you're both experts so you don't get out of it _that_ easily
13:30 <@Mirage_> I know that from experience when we were doing regex for his password shame page
13:32 <@Mirage_> Dagmar: I asked him if what he was working with was POSIX compilant and he didn't have the first clue wtf I was talking about.   So I shot him an old PDF copy of "Mastering regular expressions" that I have from when I bought the O'reilly "Bookshelf" ~12 years ago
13:32 <@Mirage_> It'
13:32 <@Mirage_> s old, but I'm sure still relavant
13:35 <@Mirage_> On a complete sidenote...the TrueNAS rsync tasks are slow as shit. I'm thinking the process is nice'd to the point that if I ping'd either the physical or virtual instance that the response would be sufficient to pause the job
13:36 <@Mirage_> rsync of 3.3T has been running for ~19h over a 10Gbe link.
13:36 <@Mirage_> well, that task run by the task manager, not by me running rsync myself
13:37 <@Dagmar> Ancient disks?
13:37 <@Dagmar> ...or has some asshole been hardlinking directories perhaps?
13:37 <@Dagmar> Oooo or are there _sparse files_ involved?
13:37 <@Mirage_> 3T SAS in the physical and 3T WD Red's for the virtual
13:38 <@Dagmar> I would check the space utilized then
13:38 <@Dagmar> Rsync can't deal with sparse files well.
13:38 <@Dagmar> If it's a 400Tb sparse file, it's going to send (and probably try to write) 400Tb of zeros
13:39 <@Mirage_> Nope, not the case.
13:39 <@Dagmar> THen I'd be checking in with iostat
13:39 <@Dagmar> It shoudln't take that damn long to transfer 3Tb
13:39 <@Mirage_> Funny thing is that it just finished, finally, since I mentioned it
13:39 <@Dagmar> Hah!
13:39 <@jb7od> XD
13:40 <@Mirage_> Dagmar: yeah, that's why I figured the rsynctask was running like nice 19 or some shit where anything/everything would cause it to pause
15:09 <@Mirage_> Dolemite: thermostat didn't fix the fan...96.6 outside, 138.9 in the attic
15:10 <@Mirage_> When the A/C kicks on it blasts out hot air for the first couple minutes.  
15:13 <@Dolemite> You think the fan motor itself is bad?
15:14 <@Dolemite> It would suck to have to replace fan motors on a roof in that heat, but certainly less than having the attic so hot your AC can't work
15:14 <@Mirage_> Tomorrow I get to crawl up on the roof again (because it can't be reached from in the attic w/o a ladder) so I can unhook the Solar/Electric switch to make it solar only as the next part of the troubleshooting process from the manufacturer.
15:16 <@Mirage_> If it still doesn't run I bet they'll send me a new link board where the thermostat/electric/solar all connect.   If that doesn't work then a new fan.  3yr warranty on the electronics and 15 on the solar/fan.  
15:43 <@Dolemite> ok, time to call it a day
16:34 <@eryc> Dagmar: you got your nick?
16:35 <@eryc> i put in a service ticket for you
16:35 <@eryc> Mirage_: you need your nick?
16:36 <@eryc> i have to find which of these had that chat [Act: 5,6,7,8,11,12,13,15,19,33,35,39,42] 
16:37 <@eryc> Dagmar was pretty specific Mirage is an x-men character or no?
16:37 <@eryc> you might have lost that one
17:09 <@Dagmar> It is
17:09 <@Dagmar> https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Mirage
17:09 <@PigBot> Mirage | X-Men Movies Wiki | Fandom (at xmenmovies.fandom.com) https://tinyurl.com/yhfhn758
17:09 <@Dagmar> She was even in the movie
17:32 < lastchild> DAnielle was originally a New Mutant
21:13 <@Mirage_> lastchild: please don't mention that PoS New Mutants movie.  *cringes*
21:17 <@Mirage_> eryc: I'd prefer to not have my _ dangling, but whatever.  It took me forever to get rid of it on freenode
21:18 <@Mirage_> Corydon knew someone and got them to release it for me when it hadn't been logged into for a while.
21:21 <@Mirage_> Probably gonna have to setup a temporary NFS solution for the ISOs share for a new customer to use until they get their NAS stuff migrated over to the new environment.  Playing with TrueNAS in my lab and discovered that, unlike with real disks, it is quite happy with growing the VMDK used for the storage pool whenever you want.  Simple as extending the disk, opening shell, executing camcontrol rescan all, 
21:21 <@Mirage_> then going to the pool and telling it to extend to use all available space.
21:22 <@Mirage_> I figure instead of building a simple CentOS/RHEL box to do it, I'll just use TrueNAS since it's made for it.
21:23 <@Mirage_> Will also be much easier for the India team to be able to deal with since it has pictures and shit for them.
22:33 <@Mirage_> yeah, they just got a mild earfull...  https://starlocalmedia.com/mckinneycouriergazette/mckinney-opens-broadband-survey-for-residents-and-business-owners/article_75030f68-cfad-11eb-809b-2335bbf9ebd9.html
22:33 <@PigBot> McKinney opens broadband survey for residents and business owners | McKinney Courier-Gazette | starlocalmedia.com (at starlocalmedia.com) 
23:26 <@jb7od> Oh savage https://isfreenodedeadyet.com/
23:26 <@PigBot> isfreenodedeadyet (at isfreenodedeadyet.com) 
23:26 <@jb7od> That graph tho..
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