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05:05 <@aestetix> Evilpig: isn't it mostly a matter of %s/freenode/libera/g?
05:51 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
05:54  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:15 <@aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8
06:15 < PigBot> Jon Stewart On Vaccine Science And The Wuhan Lab Theory - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yzx866k2
06:15 <@Dolemite> So.   much.   backscroll...
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06:28 <@aestetix> lol now the left will try to cancel jon stewart
06:37 <@aestetix> appears that the network removed part of the second half of his interview
06:52 <@Dolemite> This whole "religious exemption" for vaccinations is just ridiculous.   Maybe we need to get the Church of Satan to state that they have a religious tenet to walk around like a plague rat and infect as many people as possible as a challenge to the religious exemption issue.
07:02 <@aestetix> uhhhh
07:02 <@aestetix> how does someone make a religious objection to a vaccination?
07:03 <@aestetix> like having religious exceptions to LGBT stuff makes sense, because a lot of religions are against it
07:03 <@aestetix> but vaccines?
07:04 <@brimstone> i think the problem is around you trying to make sense of it.
07:05 <@Dolemite> Well the original religious exemption was for Jehovah's Witnesses, who also don't celebrate birthdays or holidays.
07:06 <@Dolemite> However, in 1952, Jehovah's Witness leadership changed their stance to make it a personal decision as to whether or not to vaccinate.   However, if you eat a slice of that birthday cake you're still going to hell.
07:06 <@Dolemite> Now anti-vaxx is a religion unto itself
07:38 <@aestetix> I mean, do the same people take an advil when they have a headache?
07:38 <@Dolemite> A lot of them don't - they stick to essential oils and colloidal silver and other witch's brews
07:39 <@aestetix> wait you're joking right?
07:39 <@Dolemite> No
07:39 <@Dolemite> Go down the rabbit hole of what a modern day "Homesteader" does
07:39 <@aestetix> what if they break a leg during sports.... don't they go to the doctor?
07:39 <@aestetix> there's libertarian, and then there's stupid
07:40 <@Dolemite> They'll go to the ER but insist on no shots
07:40 <@DagmarX> One round in the stamper for mercy and move onto the next
07:40 <@aestetix> well in that case they should get the vaccine injected by suppository
07:41 <@Dolemite> These are the people who believe that there are 20 million babies aborted in China every year and the tissue sold to Big Pharma to make the vaccines
07:42 <@aestetix> .... wow that puts pizzagate to shame
07:42 <@Dolemite> And of course when you look at statistics for abortion you can never convince them that medically speaking, a miscarriage is classified as an abortion
07:43 <@aestetix> I mean I am not going to say that china's policies around babies is good....
07:43 <@Dolemite> Given that I saw the invoice after my wife's miscarriage, I can attest that it does, indeed, say abortion for the procedure name
07:45 <@aestetix> I thought abortion was induced, not natural
07:50 <@Dolemite> When you have a miscarriage, you have an option of either letting the dead fetus hang out in your uterus for a while until it eventually gets broken down by your body's immune system, or you can have a doctor go in and remove it.
07:50 <@Dolemite> Which do you think most women would prefer?
07:52 <@aestetix> yuck
07:52 <@DagmarX> To live in a state that's not Tennessee
07:52 <@aestetix> I thought the medical procedure of abortion involved turning a living fetus into a dead fetus
07:52 <@Dolemite> DagmarX: That's too generic of a statement.   She could be in Mississippi or Alabama.
07:53 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Nope.   It's the removal of a fetus and placenta from the uterin wall.
07:53 <@DagmarX> Well, in TN they've recently been trying to make it a legal requirement that you pay for a coffin or a cremation after that procedure
07:54 <@Dolemite> Yes, that is ridonculous
07:54 <@Dolemite> But then again, so are our legislators
07:55 <@DagmarX> I would be willing to fund some early term cremations for them
07:55 <@aestetix> huh, TIL
07:56 <@aestetix> Do statistics on abortion include the miscarriage where the baby was already dead?
07:56 <@Dolemite> I'll be happy to cremate some bags of shit on their front porches
07:56 <@aestetix> Because that's kind of extremely misleading if it makes its way into uh..... publications
07:57 <@Dolemite> The statistics do not track such distinctions
07:58 <@aestetix> so if there is a pandemic like COVID that causes a higher than normal amount of miscarriages, the statistics will show an increase in abortions?
07:58 <@DagmarX> Still haven't gotten anotehr email from nickserv over at Freenode
07:58 <@DagmarX> Man those new guys are idiots
07:59 < Evilpig> I didn't bother re-registering my nick over there
07:59 < Evilpig> after they dumped the userdb like that, fuck em
07:59 <@Dolemite> So just take a look at the published statistics for number of abortions in the US each year...   then take the US population, divide it up into the fertile age range (let's just say 15-40), percentage of women...   and then remove an equal number for the actual birth rate each year, and try to figure out how the remaining fertile women manage to get pregnant and have that many abortions in a single year
08:00 <@aestetix> Evilpig: wait they are making you re-register?
08:01 <@brimstone> yes
08:01 <@aestetix> these new freenode admins are managing to do everything wrong
08:01 <@aestetix> it's like they got a handbook on how to do things correctly, and went line by line and did the opposite
08:02 < Evilpig> aestetix: yeah.  my shit reconnected and couldn't join #se2600 because I was no longer registered
08:02 < Evilpig> and it was invite only or something.  it was all fubar and I wasn't messing with it
08:03 <@Dolemite> I'm in there and a few people are still around
08:03 <@DagmarX> Peopel who have been idling for months
08:03 <@Dolemite> Mirage is still in there with ops
08:03 <@Dolemite> along with eryc
08:04 <@DagmarX> No sense in letting idiots take it, but we should lock it down "on our way out"
08:05 <@Dolemite> I'm sure that if they changed the topic to "We moved to libera" then that would end up with a K-Line
08:05 < Evilpig> just set the topic to "moved to libera" and let it get locked down
08:06 <@DagmarX> Well, there are lots of those, and search engines that readily turn up things like https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Regular_Expressions/Perl-Compatible_Regular_Expressions
08:06 < PigBot> Regular Expressions/Perl-Compatible Regular Expressions - Wikibooks, open books for an open world (at en.wikibooks.org) https://tinyurl.com/ydjrjrjw
08:06 <@DagmarX> @#$@#$
08:07 < Evilpig> some things never change
08:08 -!- DagmarX is now known as Dagmar
08:09 <@aestetix> no more X
08:09 <@Dolemite> such as Dagmar answering a question in the wrong channel?  LOL
08:09 <@Mirage_> eryc aparently created it.   I had to get him to invite me so that I could join.  chanserv was being a bitch or the permissions were too restrictive.
08:10 <@Dagmar> Ah okay, deo was a regular in ##linux who was trying to prevent mayhem
08:11 <@Dagmar> Now if I can just keep my sinuses from cracking my skull open like a rotten Cadbury egg
08:20 <@Mirage_> I don't see any harm in continuing to lurk in the channel on the old-new network.  Keeps someone from claiming "Mirage" over there since I was actually able to secure it first there, and it ensure's the channel doesn't get blown away.
08:21 <@Mirage_> eryc insisted that the topic should not be changed to "We've moved to..." and notification of the move be performed by word of mouth.
08:24 <@Dolemite> true enough
08:27 <@Dagmar> Perhaps "You're in the wrong castle."
08:36 <@Dolemite> I have to wonder what the Fiennes brothers did in a past life to make them pay penance by portraying the most absolutely horrid people in TV and Movies.   Ralph of course played a Nazi Concentration Camp commander along with Voldemort.   Joseph plays a total shitstain of a commander in The Handmaid's Tale.
09:16 < Evilpig> y'all might find this amusing. one of my brothers clearly has some level of A.D.D.  he does some just goofy impulsy stuff.  
09:17 < Evilpig> I do his network stuff for him and he has over 50 devices on his network and just two people in their house.  he has something like 24+ wireless surveilence cameras
09:18 < Evilpig> he has a double locked front door.  there is an outer gate to his front door and it has a keyless lock on both sides so if you don't have the code you can't get out
09:25 < Evilpig> he even has automatic locks on his bedroom door.
09:25 < Evilpig> I love my family, buy damn they are something
09:26 <@Dagmar> Hope they never have a fire
09:27 <@Dolemite> during a power outage
09:27 <@Dolemite> I called the State on my HOA for putting a double sided card lock on the gate to the pool.
09:27 <@Dolemite> Definitely a fire code violation
09:28 <@Dolemite> All to solve a problem that didn't exist
09:29 <@Dolemite> Apparently 12 years ago some non-members went to the pool and had a few too many beers and harassed the lifeguards.   Since then alcohol is forbidden at the pool (yet nearly every adult I know has booze in their "water" bottle) and now they have a keycard entry system.
09:31 <@Dolemite> Oh and I'm getting ready to use my legal services benefit from work to go over their latest thing...   we're required to pay HOA fees if we live in the subdivision, lest they put a lein on our house.   However, they now require that you sign an indemnification form before you can use any of the facilities, which I wouldn't mind, except that they added in a clause saying that you can't sue the HOA or 
09:31 <@Dolemite> board members for negligence.
09:32 <@Dolemite> That seems to fit the legal definition of coercion - requiring me to pay a fee for a service that I can only use if I give up my rights
09:42 < Evilpig> sounds that way
09:44 <@Dolemite> sweet.   Got my API function calls to Sectigo working so that it parses the CSR, figures out if it's a multi-san or single-name request, validates that the user (on our end) has authority for all of the names within the CSR, then enrolls the certificate with Sectigo and returns the signed cert.
09:45 <@Dolemite> Now to package it all up in a self service web page
09:48 <@Dolemite> I thought about adding in routines to generate the key and CSR for the Windows admins that don't know how to use openssl or to Google how to use openssl.
09:49 <@Dolemite> Because they do still exist, and they're multiplying
09:49 <@Dagmar> heh
09:49 <@Dagmar> I can't entirely fault them
09:49 <@Dagmar> I've gone from just using a special config file to avoid having to enter the same fields every time to using a shell script and a config file for generating new CSRs
09:50 <@Dagmar> Well, a shell script that _generates_ the config file
09:50 <@Dolemite> yeah I always use a config file for mine
09:50 <@Dolemite> I already made an automated key/csr generator within PHP for openDCIM to make SAML endpoint certs, so at this point I'd be copying/pasting my own code.
09:51 <@Dolemite> Which, to be fair, is pretty easy since PHP 7 has a lot of the openssl functions built in as a PHP function
09:51 <@Dagmar> WEll... either I took the minimouse to work and somehow left it on my desk, or one of the cats nabbed it and played with it to death and it's under some furniture downstairs now
09:51 <@Dolemite> blame the cats
09:51 <@Dagmar> It probably _was_ the cats
09:51 <@Dagmar> The only thing I ever use it with is the tiny work laptop and they both live on top my mid-tower under my desk
09:52 <@Dagmar> The dongle is plugged into the minilaptop and I always stick it back inside the mouse if I take them somewhere
09:52 <@Dagmar> Either way, $15 to order a new one so... no bigs
09:53 <@Dagmar> Also I've got an 80$ mouse still sitting here doing nothing because I've not gotten around to opening it and fixing one of the contacts
09:53 -!- eryc changed the topic of #se2600 to: Welcome to #se2600. Social distancing champions since 1992.
09:54 <@Dagmar> I'll probably get aroudn to doing that the enxt time I'm playing an FPS since there's a button on the side that's just for running the DPI up to 1200/2400 for precision sniping
09:54 <@Dagmar> ...which is also really handy for pixel artwork
09:54 <@Dagmar> ...like, way handier than I thought it would be once I started using it
09:55 <@eryc> looks like rhia, oddball, and Synx_hm didn't make the jump due to idleness
09:55 <@eryc> if anyone wants to ping them out of band we can shutdown the old channel
09:59 <@Dagmar> You can tick oddball off that list
09:59 <@Dagmar> I just poked him over Teams about it
09:59 <@Dagmar> No idea who is regularly in contact with Synx & rhia
10:02 <@aestetix> I hope oddball comes here
10:03 <@Dagmar> He will
10:06 <@aestetix> I love how the new freenode wars went out of their way to piss off us.... at least for me, I was trying to stay out of the whole thing
10:08 <@xtort-> one channel i'm in moved, fine.  matrix makes it easy to be on multiple networks.  then the utter fuckey started.
10:13 <@Dagmar> I expect the blogosphere is going to have a field day about this mess
10:14 <@Dagmar> It would be really hard to have handled this in a worse way without like, redirecting users to scat pic gallery sites or something
10:15 <@eryc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKsedpraVg
10:15 < PigBot> Spacewalk to Install New International Space Station Solar Arrays - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yedz6wds
11:45 <@aestetix> _NSAKEY: thankfully the culture war has given me some great filter words
11:45 <@aestetix> if an event has the word "intersectionality" then I skip it
11:45 <@aestetix> and so on
11:46 <@_NSAKEY> was that meant for my messages on freenode?
11:47 <@aestetix> yeah but I didn't think anyone was using that anymore
11:47 <@aestetix> lol
11:47 <@_NSAKEY> Anything involving intersectionality gets an auto-skip from me as well. On the other side of the spectrum, anyone who mentions "cancel culture" unironically gets binned with the same people who treat infowars like pornhub
11:48 <@aestetix> yuck
11:48 <@aestetix> what about those of us who want nothing to do with either of those worlds
11:48 <@_NSAKEY> So... "Cancelling Cancel Culture" from the new staff = They're basically special ed kids in my mind
11:48 <@aestetix> new freenode staff?
11:49 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, the old staff resigned en masse and started this network
11:49 <@_NSAKEY> there's pretty much no old staff left on freenode
11:49 <@aestetix> oh you mean the libera staff
11:49 <@aestetix> yeah the one person I know who is on libera staff.... well let's say we have some fundamental disagreements
11:49 <@_NSAKEY> the apologists for the new staff are spewing stuff about leftist boogie men or whatever
11:51 <@_NSAKEY> I'm still very much in the camp that the only "good" people who still identify as republicans are the ones who died of coronavirus before they could vote in 2020, but there's really not much of a need to inject that into a conversation about mismanaging what was by far the largest irc network still standing
11:51 <@aestetix> heh
11:52 <@aestetix> what do you call someone who identifies as neither democrat nor republican?
11:52 <@_NSAKEY> To me, that discussion is pretty apolitical. You either know what you're doing, or you're driving a flaming short bus off a cliff while chugging straight from the whiskey bottle
11:52 <@_NSAKEY> Those are either normal people or former republicans lol
11:52 <@aestetix> haha
11:52 <@aestetix> TIL I am normal
11:53 <@_NSAKEY> You've missed a lot of mass stupidity by not living in the states anymore
11:54 <@aestetix> I was not in the US at all during Trump
11:54 <@aestetix> I was kinda hoping he'd lose the election just so I could say that lol
11:58 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: It's still a straw man defense
11:59 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: They're trying to ignore the utter mismanagement question by only addressing ethical lapses of the staff that are entirely separate issues.
11:59 <@Dagmar> There's no two ways about it.  They've repeatedly fucked up.
11:59 <@_NSAKEY> Oh shit, you got Dagmar back?
11:59 <@_NSAKEY> That they have
11:59 <@Dagmar> That they can only find malcontents and n00barses to act as opers now is entirely secondary.
12:00 <@xtort-> o shit, i should apply
12:00 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, they'd probably take me in as well LOL
12:00 <@Dagmar> They actually bombed ##Linux a couple days ago, with the kill message that the channel was in violation of Freenode policy
12:00 <@Dagmar> ...and k-lined some of the ##Linux ops
12:00 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, that's been pretty standard since the rise of Libera
12:01 <@_NSAKEY> Anyone who announced a move lost their channel
12:01 <@Dagmar> Just a another ring of incompetence in the circus of stupidity they've been running
12:01 <@Dagmar> ##Linux didn't announce any move
12:01 <@Dagmar> It was just out of the blue
12:01 <@_NSAKEY> I thought I saw that they were thinking of how to move over to libera smoothly
12:02 <@_NSAKEY> Maybe just talking about that is what set off the new freenode staff, but even if it's not, that's a dick move
12:02 <@Dagmar> ...and to dump all the nick registrations but only talk about there being old channel registartions... that's just an attempt to wipe history so no reporters can say "Well, these people with 20 years of experience on that very network say the new staff are idiots"
12:02 <@_NSAKEY> I think it goes back to nickserv being squatted by an end user on some of the boxes
12:02 <@Dagmar> It's going to wind up on Ars Technica at this rate
12:03 <@_NSAKEY> no telling how many passwords got compromised
12:03 <@Dagmar> No, they made the decision out of the gate to _not_ carry nick registrations over
12:03 <@Dagmar> Any claims that they did so because of their massive fuckup with nick services would be a lie
12:03 <@_NSAKEY> Did you see the massive twitter thread that got linked in here?
12:03 <@Dagmar> People sending their passwords to bad actors is just people being stupid
12:04 <@Dagmar> You've never needed to privmsg Nickserv on that network, for good reason.
12:04 <@xtort-> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
12:04 < PigBot> Freenode IRC staff resign en masse after takeover by Korea’s “crown prince” | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) https://tinyurl.com/yjs3bvc4
12:04 <@_NSAKEY> One of the prevailing theories is that they did this dumb shit with the old nicks because the breach is worse than they're letting on
12:06 <@_NSAKEY> Which, looking at the other idiocy the staff has been engaging in, sounds completely in character
12:07 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking they just decided out of paranoia one of the staff probably kept a copy of the user database, or hid backdoors in it
12:08 <@Dagmar> xtort-: No, that bit of drama was some time back, relatively speaking
12:08 <@Dagmar> I'm talking about the complete shitshow that's been happening since then
12:08 <@_NSAKEY> See, that was my initial thought
12:08 <@xtort-> oh.  you mean the current fuckery
12:08 <@Dagmar> Yes.  If I didn't know any better, I'd say the network had been taken over by attention-deficit teenagers.
12:09 <@Dagmar> Lee's going to get a massive black eye in the press over this
12:09 <@_NSAKEY> It certainly feels that way
12:09 <@Dagmar> Shitfuckery on this level hasn't been seen since Microsoft took over HoTMaiL
12:09 <@brimstone> bless you for using the right case
12:10 <@Dagmar> I'm one of the rare people who know that things started here in Tennessee
12:10 <@aestetix> what about hotmale
12:10 <@Dagmar> Heart Of Tennessee Mail
12:11 <@Dagmar> Count on Freenode hiding user counts and registrations after this to hide the fact that they decimated the userbase
12:11 <@Dagmar> Lee's going to find out the thing he "owns" isn't worth spit anymore
12:11 <@Dagmar> ...and he's going to be desperate to find ways to hide that fact.
12:12 <@Dagmar> I'm half tempted to try to set up an Augur pool for the first day they start trying to push advertisements in as notices
12:29 <@Mirage_> Dolemite: 3d print me a couple 92mm to 120mm fan adapters.  Trying to find a 2-3 to see how a 120 compares for my raid enclosures but they are all either flat, discontinued, or blatantly 3d-printed and expensive as hell.
12:30 <@Mirage_> On a side note:  3d-printing fan adapters and selling them on ebay might be an opportunity.. almost all of the ones listed right now are shipping from Greece or China.
12:39 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: Find what you need on thingiverse.com and send me the link
12:40 <@Dolemite> Ms. Diva has me printing cookie cutters for her right now because she's turned into the baking queen
12:45 <@Dolemite> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:469865
12:45 < PigBot> 92mm to 120mm PC Fan Adapter / Reducer Flush-Fit Wide-Mouth by Trezhunter - Thingiverse (at www.thingiverse.com) https://tinyurl.com/yj7rty36
12:46 <@Mirage_> Dolemite: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1695395
12:46 < PigBot> 92 to 120 Fan adapter. by DarkAlchemist - Thingiverse (at www.thingiverse.com) https://tinyurl.com/yzwdbtwl
12:47 <@Dolemite> k
12:47 <@Mirage_> Dolemite: funny, I didn't see your response until I'd pasted that
12:49 <@Mirage_> I need to just buy a 3d printer.  I wouldn't need it too often, I don't think, but I've been pondering it for at least being able to try and fabricate some Z trim parts that are no longer available
12:49 <@Dolemite> It's useful to have, that's for sure
12:50 <@Dolemite> I found a vine clip pattern that I keep printing for Pamela which she really likes for securing the tomato plants to supports
12:50 <@Dolemite> and, of course, all the cookie cutters for Ms. Diva
12:50 <@Dolemite> I even made some cat ears to go on headphones...  and a water bottle mount for the hamster cage...
12:51 <@Mirage_> I never did get your address for sending the PN 2012 pint glass
12:51 <@Dolemite> things that sure, I could go buy for a few bucks, but I can print and test for just a few cents worth of filament and not really any time since it's right next to me when I'm working
12:51 <@Mirage_> Or did you get one from someone else?  I will say, mine has been well used and isn't in mint condition by any means.
12:52 <@Dolemite> I didn't but I'm not worried about it
12:53 <@Mirage_> Any recommendations on a 3d printer?  Specific brand(s) to look at?  Filament brands/types, etc
12:59 <@Dolemite> Creality is the one that I use and is pretty much the goto first printer.   I think oddball got the same.
13:00 <@Dolemite> Well, Creality Ender 3 (or 3 Pro, though the Pro isn't worth the extra cost unless it's on sale to be close to the same price as the 3)
13:00 <@Dolemite> I may have a discount code
13:01 <@Dolemite> $20 off - code JUNE20
13:03 <@Dolemite> looks like it's time to align the print bed, again
13:03 <@Dolemite> I started printing your adapter and it's bigger than things I usually print...   so one corner is messing up, likely due to the bed being less than perfectly level on that corner
13:04 <@Dolemite> That's easily the #1 reason why people complain about 3d printers - they don't align the beds correctly and the prints fail
13:11 <@eryc> lulzbot or prusa seem like good choices
13:28 <@Dagmar> Mine's safely in the cabinet in the back
13:28 <@Dagmar> THe boy wanted to drink out of it, and I told him, "your butt doesn't have the capital to risk breaking it."
13:29 <@Dagmar> Considering how often he managed to break freakin bar glasses, it was the right call to make
13:38 <@Mirage_> Dolemite: https://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-Creality-Upgraded-C-Magnet-Certified/dp/B07H9NQWR4 ?
13:38 < PigBot> SainSmart x Creality Ender-3 PRO 3D Printer with Upgraded C-Magnet Build Surface Plate Mat, UL Certified Power Supply, Extra 4 Nozzles, Build Volume 220 x 220 x 250 mm: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific (at www.amazon.com) https://tinyurl.com/yjbwwl9x
13:39 <@Mirage_> There are several listed for various prices...what I find interesting is that supposedly they are all from different manufacturers?! 
13:45 <@Dolemite> I would buy directly from Creality, personally.   A lot of the Amazon resellers on these are a bit sketch.
13:45 <@Dolemite> Or from whatever manufacturer you get yours from
13:46 <@Dolemite> And if you start looking on youtube for your model, you'll find all kinds of tips/tricks on making it better
13:46 <@Dolemite> plus Thingiverse has lots of accessories you can print for it
13:50 <@eryc> this one looks cool https://shop.prusa3d.com/en/upgrades/183-original-prusa-i3-mmu2s-upgrade-kit-for-mk25-mk3s.html
13:50 < PigBot> Original Prusa i3 MK3S Multi Material 2S (at shop.prusa3d.com) https://tinyurl.com/yhxuzqkd
13:50 <@eryc> oh i guess that's an add-on
14:07 <@Mirage_> heh, looking at the map it's pretty obvious who's got roof-mounted all-in-one weather stations and who has proper ones where the temperature sensor is in a sane location.   https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXMCKIN358
14:07 < PigBot> Personal Weather Station Dashboard | Weather Underground (at www.wunderground.com) https://tinyurl.com/y9gskaev
15:24 -!- oddball [~oddball@h134-215-29-183.mtjltn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600
15:26 < oddball> So, I've been told that this is where the cool kids are hanging out now.
15:28 < oddball> Wow, looking at #freenode, they still haven't figured out how to get their nickserv running.  Maybe the new servers weren't ready for primetime?
15:28 < oddball> At least, from the looks of it, the nick actually belongs to the right thing now.
15:29 <@brimstone> classic freenode or new freenode?
15:29 < oddball> new
15:30 < oddball> And I know I mostly lurk now, but can I get ops?  I feel all naked.
15:30 <@jb7od> on... passion?
15:32 <@aestetix> hi oddball 
15:32 <@Catonic> ./kick #se260 oddball
15:33 < oddball> awww...
15:33 < oddball> ./sadface
15:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ
15:33 <@oddball> yay!
15:33 <@aestetix> heh I just joined #freenode on freenode
15:33 <@aestetix> to see how bad it is
15:33 <@Catonic> you never ask for ops. ;-)
15:34 <@Catonic> brimstone: should we call it freenode-lite?
15:36 <@brimstone> more like nopenode
15:36 <@Catonic> Mirage_: I think we use an Ender Pro at the makerspace and it required the least maintenance but we have to keep 12 printers to have 6 running at any given time.
15:36 <@Catonic> brimstone: somalinode
15:38 <@oddball> I've got a Ender 3 v2 running in the next room right now.
15:39 <@aestetix> watching a very amusing video
15:39 <@aestetix> a high schooler spraying fart spray in her class, and the teacher apparently has some nose disease so she's unable to sense smell at all
15:39 <@oddball> And I've heard good things about the Voxelab Aquila, which is pretty much a clone.
15:40 <@aestetix> so all the students are complaining and the teacher thinks they are lying
15:40 <@aestetix> wow #freenode is.... heated
15:41 <@oddball> yep
15:41 <@aestetix> ok what can I say in #freenode to get the worst reaction
15:41 <@aestetix> I wanna get pilloried in there
15:43 <@oddball> Pretty sure that they'll just kick you and move on.
15:44 <@oddball> They have zero patiences or cool right now, and I kind of can't blame them.  There's a bunch of folks jumping in just to smear shit all over the place.
15:44 <@aestetix> shots fired
15:45 <@Mirage_> Ebay really needs to crack down on this shit:  $84.95
15:45 <@Mirage_> + $49.67 Shipping
15:45 <@aestetix> haha hook line and sinker
15:45 <@Mirage_> Pretty sure the reason is that sellers don't have to pay a % off the shipping/handling
15:47 <@Mirage_> Several years ago I was looking for a replacement hood for my wife's now totally '86 300zx.  Some of the sellers would have hoods listed for like $25 + $275 shipping.
15:48 <@oddball> I don't know about that, but I do know that a lot of folks search for lowest price, and shipping often isn't included in that sort.
15:49 <@oddball> I think Amazon changed that at one point, since there were a number of folks that were literally charging a penny + actual price for shipping.
15:49 <@Mirage_> oddball: there is a "price + shipping" option for sorting, which is what I always use
15:50 <@eryc> https://starlink.sx/
15:50 < PigBot> Starlink Coverage Tracker (at starlink.sx) https://tinyurl.com/yzlcpug2
15:50 <@Catonic> It's not entirely unreasonable considering that you'll have to build a crate for the hood and palletize as well as ship LTL.
15:51 <@aestetix> hey can someone change the se2600 topic on freenode to be "move to libera"
15:51 <@aestetix> just so I can troll this obvious narc
15:51 <@Mirage_> Catonic: lol...yeah, no...they tape multiple cardboard boxes together to be able to cover it, and add zero protection for the item in the "box" normally
15:52 <@Catonic> I
15:52 <@Mirage_> aestetix: general concensus on that would be "no" so that the old channel exists for the purpose of letting people know to move over
15:52 <@Catonic> I've had that happen a few times and I've so far been lucky enough my stuff survived it.
15:52 <@aestetix> Mirage_: ah ok fair enough
15:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ
15:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v PigBot] by ChanServ
15:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o PigBot] by ChanServ
15:56 <@eryc> aestetix: are you arguing with people in #freenode?
15:56 <@aestetix> eryc: I'm not
15:56 <@Mirage_> eryc: would that suprise you?
15:56 <@oddball> more like taunting.
15:57 <@aestetix> I'm trying to get kicked from #freenode for promoting libera :p
15:57 <@eryc> i just joined to see how it's going
16:01 <@aestetix> why is it so hard to get kicked
16:01 <@jb7od> It had some bizzare moments
16:02 <@jb7od> lol. definitely need to wait for later, then ask how many bots it's okay to have. 
16:03 <@aestetix> lol were you all watching
16:03 <@jb7od> and what kinds of porn are okay, but of course, nothing illegal, but for real.
16:03 <@aestetix> I was trying so hard to get kicked
16:03 <@aestetix> I guess I need to wait for one of the staffers to join
16:04 <@jb7od> oh, that was in there for sure- lol yea. that one guy like ragequit, but that other guy gave up
16:04 <@jb7od> he's on there- it's that sorcerer guy, he can set modes anyway
16:05 <@aestetix> ok these mods suck
16:06 <@xtort-> haha, burn <FlyinFish> start by running linux irc client
16:06 <@jb7od> I camped last night, just to see what was going to happen- there's that one help chan in the title, dunno what's going on there #chanhelp
16:08 <@jb7od> they were doing a bunch of re-registration and complaining about it lol. 
16:09 <@jb7od> but went afk for periods
16:09 <@aestetix> I think they are starting to get pissed
16:09 <@jb7od> l0l it's stress testing
16:11 <@aestetix> hook line and sinker, now I'm gonna probe them with absurd political questions
16:16 <@aestetix> wow these guys are fucking dense
16:24 <@Mirage_> translation - aestetix is going to attempt to troll people by being himself.
16:30 <@aestetix> allright I'm tired of it now
16:30 <@aestetix> did you guys enjoy the show
17:43 <@jb7od> The uwu's are raging out. 
18:05 <@Mirage_> I know this is a rhetorical question, but just how fucking stupid can some people be? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/558697-majority-of-republicans-thinks-state-reviews-will-change-2020-outcome-poll
18:05 <@PigBot> Majority of Republicans think state reviews will change 2020 outcome: poll | TheHill (at thehill.com) https://tinyurl.com/yj3kxbmh
19:33 <@jb7od> Just to document the dumpsterfire https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/
19:33 <@PigBot> Freenode Debacle Prompts Staff Exodus, New Network | Hackaday (at hackaday.com) https://tinyurl.com/yfafrurg
19:34 <@jb7od> (Mirage_, I do think that stuff's stupid, but it's a threatening kind of "too stupid")
19:56 <@jb7od> I'm actually really curious to see how that whole thing plays out. Even I knew that christel didn't have the needed 'ownership' of the network enough to sign it away. Can't remember what for, but she'd even helped me before and seemed like a normal oper. That whole thing sounds fishy as hell- and missionwise, I'm not interested in seeing IRC 'modernize' with built-in spying or a graphical control panel, or whatever other innovation
19:57 <@jb7od> (and I miss the motds- I didn't realize how much I cared about that nerdy shit)
20:32 <@jb7od> So now, wait- what happens to Hitchcock and Sofia and all them? If this is all new servers, are the others here?
20:46 <@jb7od> https://github.com/siraben/freenode-exodus
20:47 <@PigBot> GitHub - siraben/freenode-exodus: Projects and channels that have decided to leave Freenode. (Leave count as of 2021-06-16: 828) (at github.com) https://tinyurl.com/yef2sbtp
23:58 <@opticron> jb7od, I'm interested in seeing IRC modernize to an extent, but I don't think my definition of "modernize" matches with being a direct discord or slack equivalent
23:58 <@opticron> plus, most of the features I'd want are already available in the IRC spec, they're just not commonly used or they're disabled
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