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02:34 < aestetix> https://eu.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/08/ohio-sues-google-seeks-declare-search-engine-public-utility/7602213002/ this is stupid
02:34 < PigBot> Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the search engine a public utility (at eu.dispatch.com)
05:39 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
05:41  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
05:46 <@Dolemite> Time to watch the latest episode of The Republican Caucus
05:46 <@Dolemite> er, I mean The Handmaid's Tale
05:47 < aestetix> I haven't seen the show or read the book. But.... if it's a show based on a book.... how do they add new seasons?
05:47 <@Dolemite> The world was setup in the book
05:48 <@Dolemite> The extra seasons are an expansion of that story
05:49 < aestetix> oh ok so it's like orange is the new black
05:49 < aestetix> when they run out of material they will just make backstories for characters
05:49 < aestetix> or something
05:50 <@Dolemite> Well this is a dystopian fiction, so it's speeding towards some form of resolution - for good or bad
05:55 <@Dolemite> Are you familiar with the basic premise of it?
05:55 < aestetix> something about harvesting babies
05:56 <@Dolemite> In the future a virus has caused the fertility rate to plumet
05:56 <@Dolemite> So a faction of far right split the US into a new nation called Gilead
05:57 <@Dolemite> And they use religion/Biblical texts to justify the new caste system - one in which any woman who is actually fertile becomes a handmaid
05:57 < aestetix> interesting
05:57 < aestetix> I guess I'll read the book
05:57 <@Dolemite> The handmaids are passed around to the 'Commanders' of Gilead and are ceremonially raped until pregnant so that they will produce children
05:57 < aestetix> assuming you didn't spoil it all for me ;)
05:57 < aestetix> ugh
05:58 <@Dolemite> Infertile women are either Marthas (housekeeping staff) or Lydias (enforcers of the handmaids)
05:58 <@Dolemite> So the book is about one particular handmaid and her fight against the system
05:59 <@Dolemite> The TV show is about that and a lot of the subplots that wouldn't be explored in the book lest it be GRR Martin sized
05:59 <@Dolemite> Holy crap, the imagery...   they just recreated The Last Supper in the scene setup
06:00 <@Dolemite> er, Aunts, not Lydias.   Lydia is the specific enforcer they follow in the story.
06:00 < aestetix> no wonder a certain breed of "feminists" love that book/show
06:01 <@Dolemite> Well it certainly explored the idea of what happens when society treats women as incubators above all else
06:33 < xtort-[df-org]> Birthing-person
06:35 < aestetix> no no no
06:35 < aestetix> you have to say person of birthing ability
06:42 < aestetix> such a delightful email subject
06:42 < aestetix> "@suckmedryfuqr is now following you on Ello"
06:42 < aestetix> keep in mind I have not logged into ello in 6+ years
06:42 <@Dolemite> brb
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06:54  * aestetix checks watch
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07:21  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:21 < aestetix> I missed you so much
07:22 <@Dolemite> I've apparently got a rogue dhcp service running on the network from likely an AP or something...   it gave out the wrong subnet to my daughter's laptop, which took me a while to realize what was happening
07:22 <@Dolemite> So now to bring out the nmap scans
07:23 <@Dolemite> Of course, nmap only returns the one it's supposed to
07:23 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1fbuOkxugs
07:23 < aestetix> this looks great unless you get fired
07:23 < PigBot> Facebook Is Building A City For Its Employees - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yyzp782v
07:26 < aestetix> at a certain point, does facebook become a sovereign nation?
07:30 <@opticron> hooray, corporate towns
07:30 < aestetix> pretty much
07:31 <@opticron> sounds like a great new and totally unexplored way to do things
07:42 <@brimstone> as soon as other countries recognize Facebook as a nation, really
07:42 <@Dolemite> Ugh, I really wish syslog would go ahead and log the MAC address of the DHCPOFFER answers
07:42 <@Dolemite> Because whatever my rogue is, it's not answering all the time
07:43 < aestetix> I am just thinking, once facebook starts doing on-site housing, then there is no reason for employees to leave
07:43 < aestetix> unless they want to see muggles like us
07:44 < aestetix> but it would suck if you had a problem at work, and all at once, your friends, your job, and your housing went up in smoke
07:47 <@Dolemite> *sigh*   That used to be my homebase when I worked for Sun
07:52 < aestetix> Dolemite: you lived in the bay area?
07:56 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I worked from home in Nashville, but my "home base" for Sun was Menlo Park
07:57 <@Dolemite> That's where my interview was at and where I went for my exit interview when I left, which turned out to just be a free trip to SF since my director had double booked and asked if he could reschedule...   I'm like, "Bruh, this is my last day"
07:57 <@Dolemite> He then ran into me in the United lounge and tried to talk me into staying.   LOL
07:58 <@Dolemite> But the problem is I'd never met him before that day.   They kept reorganizing too much there right after McNealy stepped down.
07:58 <@Dolemite> So dude was just trying to hold onto the head count.   He had no clue what I actually did.
07:59 <@Dolemite> He forgot to process my termination paperwork, too, so I ended up still getting paid for like 2 months into my job at VU.
07:59 <@Dolemite> I called him up and he said to consider it severance
07:59 <@Dolemite> works for me
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08:29 < aestetix> .....
08:29 < aestetix> he tried to reschedule your exit interview?
08:30 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Yes, he realized he had a meeting with me, but didn't bother to read that it was an exit interview
08:31 < aestetix> I think that alone explains sufficiently why you left the company :p
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08:31 <@Dolemite> At that point the grop I had originally joined had been split multiple times and there were very few of us even left.   I'd been holding out for a layoff since I would have been entitled to about 6 months of pay if it had happened.   I finally gave up.  LOL
08:32 <@Dolemite> s/grop/group
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08:39 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: turn off your normal dhcp, then you'll find it
08:41 <@Evilpig> went to my brother's yesterday because he's been having some weird internet issues for the last month but couldn't figure out what exactly.
08:42 <@Evilpig> he has some black box from adt that you plug in and it just works but nobody at adt could tell me how. so when the thing doesn't work it has no console port, no debug, no ports exposed on the network.  all I could see was this device was booting up and getting an IP but it wasn't doing jack shit after that
08:43 <@Evilpig> called up their support line and dude went though the usual of blaming the cabling, it's gotta be the firewall, etc.  told him to act like he's talking to someone that has worked in networking for 20+ years and get into the nuts and bolts on how it works and he went back to his checklist
08:44 <@Evilpig> asked him what I should see if i run a packet capture on a duplicated port for that device and he just went blank and then back into his checklist.  useless fuck.  asked for something that knows more than him and he offered to get me a manager.  fine.
08:45 <@Evilpig> I started poking around more and started checking each network component one by one.  all the other devieces in the house work execept for this adt whatever, and some new smart plugs my brother bought.  they wouldnt' register right but once they were set up they worked fine.
08:46 <@Evilpig> no egress firewall rules, only ingress rules are nat routing for related packets, etc.  I start checking the dns servers because I'm grasping at straws and the first dns server is refusing connections but the other two are working fine.
08:47 <@Evilpig> change dhcp options to get around problem server and all the weirdness goes away.  turns out shit adt device and cheap iot devices were only trying the primary dns and when it failed they ignored the secondary and tertiary
08:47 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Whatever the rogue device is uses 192.168.0.254 for the address (I'm using 192.168.1.0/24 as my network).   However, when I added an interface alias to 192.168.0.100 and tried to ping 192.168.0.254, I got no answer.
08:48 <@Evilpig> hrmmm.  weird
08:48 <@Dolemite> yeah, it's like it's waking up at random times and sending out addresses.   It would be some rather weird behavior if it's malware related.
08:49 <@Evilpig> I've figured out that this adt device boots up, phones home via name to connect up their vpn, then pulls the config from the vpn.  stupid tech doesn't know how their crap works and he was supposed to be the top tier.
08:49 <@Dolemite> So I've got that VM just constantly pinging the address so that I can try to get at least one response - that way arp will know the MAC address and I can at least look up the manufacturer.
08:49 <@eryc> he works in a call center for adt..
08:50 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: do you have some point where you can packetcapture everything? does your switch have a mirror port?
08:50 <@Evilpig> set up a packet capture just for dhcp ack's
08:50 <@Evilpig> is it possible her laptop or whatever didn't get on the network right and used a backup network setting?
08:50 <@Dolemite> I have basic switches
08:51 <@Evilpig> I think windows can set a static IP as a fallback in case of dhcp failure
08:51 <@Dolemite> Well I actually managed to see where one of my proxmox VM's snagged this bad address
08:51 <@Evilpig> eryc: agreed, but he was supposed to be somehting higher.  the place where the support techs go when they can't make something work.
08:51 <@Dolemite> And I found in syslog the DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.254...   but I stupidly didn't think to check the arp tables before rebooting
08:52 <@Dolemite> But this might explain why I occasionally lose connectivity with my work laptop.   I'll bet I'm getting a bonkers DHCP offering.
08:53 <@Evilpig> entirely possible
08:54 <@Evilpig> in other news...  I thought when my dad got rid of cable the news related craziness would stop.  he started watching newsmax on his phone
08:56 <@Dolemite> oh damn
08:56 <@Dolemite> Has he joined 'Frank', the MyPillow social network?
08:56 <@Evilpig> it's probably coming
08:56 <@Evilpig> later
08:57 <@Dolemite> Has he joined 'Frank', the MyPillow social network?
08:58 <@Dolemite> oops
08:58 <@Dolemite> Well, turned off dhcpd and ran the nmap broadcast...   no answer.   So whatever it is, it's sneaky.
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09:46 <@Mirage> Dolemite: dumb switches?!?  Heathen
09:50 <@Dolemite> Heathen == cheapster
09:50 <@Dolemite> Some of the switches are managed, but not all of them
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11:08 <@Dolemite> alright, up to Season 4 of the Quantum Leap binge
11:08 <@Dolemite> There have been a few episode I never saw when it was broadcast
11:14 < aestetix> https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/nvvhar/im_the_fedora_project_leader_ask_me_anything/h161tq5/
11:14 < PigBot> aestetix comments on I'm the Fedora Project Leader -- ask me anything! (at old.reddit.com) https://tinyurl.com/y29532y6
11:14 < aestetix> can you guys upvote me
11:15 < aestetix> upvote my comment
11:17 <@eryc> why would they support init
11:17 < aestetix> because they would come to their sensens
11:17 < aestetix> senses
11:20 <@brimstone> but systemd was Invented Here (tm)
12:32 <@Dolemite> FYI, if you like good old RTS games, Epic Games currently has FrostPunk for free in their store.  I'm rather enjoying it.
13:12 < aestetix> are you kidding me
13:12 < aestetix> watching this zoom court
13:12 < aestetix> the guy just told the judge "I don't pay taxes"
13:12 < aestetix> he's a hoarder and the court is going to clear his house, and he's saying that to show that the court has to foot the bill
13:17 <@opticron> admitting to tax evasion? that's a fun strategy
13:18 < jb7od> Crom! Somebodys turned in the hosting company to uceprotectl3. >_<
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15:28 <@eryc> Dolemite: is it multiplayer?
15:29 <@eryc> jb7od: what now
15:29 <@Dolemite> eryc: No
15:29 <@eryc> k, i snagged it
15:29 <@eryc> i like epic's free hand outs
15:29 <@eryc> usually i get a popup
15:30 <@Dolemite> yeah, I look and unless it's something that I obviously would never play, I grab it
15:30 <@eryc> yea i mostly grab them all unless its like really out there
15:31 <@eryc> i have 31 games in my library and none of them paid for
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