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07:12 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:13 <@Dolemite> Day 2 of my boy child taking Driver's Ed class.  Hopefully he'll actually be ready to take his written exam for his learner's permit by the end of the week.
07:22  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:22 < aestetix> Dolemite: nice. And soon he'll be dealing with his first encounter with the police, and his first arguments with the insurance company
07:22 < aestetix> well hopefully his first
08:17 < aestetix> wtf is it with millennials and getting upset or offended on someone else's behalf
08:17 < aestetix> "why did you say that? that might offend someone"
08:17 < aestetix> instead of "dude, the offended me"
08:17 < aestetix> the second, I can deal with. the first is stupid
08:29 <@opticron> aestetix, it's probably in the phrasing. instead, I'd probably say: "your stupid is showing, might want to keep that to yourself"
08:29 < aestetix> opticron: what do you mean?
08:30 < aestetix> oh, you mean "I am offended" OR "your stupid is showing"?
08:30 < aestetix> yeah that works fine. the issue is taking offense on behalf of a non-existent victim
08:33 <@Dagmar> Well, there *is* this cool new trend of people being trauma-level triggered because of events they merely _heard about_
08:39 <@opticron> aestetix, I don't have to be the target of racist comments to not want them in my community
08:42 < aestetix> opticron: thats fine. just say you don't like the comments. you don't have to be the target to say you don't like it
08:44 <@opticron> ah, so you're more taking issue with the walking on eggshells shit when they don't *know* what might offend people
08:44 < aestetix> yes
08:44 < aestetix> like.... you can be offended, or not like a word or something.... and just say that
08:45 < aestetix> that is totally reasonable
08:45 < aestetix> it's more the "well, I am ok with it, but someone else might not be, so we have to be careful"
08:45 < aestetix> that attitude pisses me off a lot
08:45 <@opticron> gotcha
08:46 < aestetix> I keep getting into this fight, and it's all with leftists of a certain age range
08:46 < aestetix> it's really, really annoying. and it only comes out of the english speaking world, mostly from americans
08:47 < aestetix> the best part is that none of them say they are offended, but they want to be mindful that someone else might be
08:47 < aestetix> it's fucking stupid
08:47 < aestetix> it's like they are afraid of their own shadow
08:48 <@opticron> sounds like whiplash from learning their parents are discriminatory and wondering what else might be
08:48 < aestetix> I mean everyone discriminates. Sometimes it's ok, sometimes it isn't
08:48 <@opticron> everyone must be perfectly equal
08:48 < aestetix> You're not gonna hire someone with no skills to run your network, are you?
08:49 <@opticron> I've seen far too many people that have jobs without the skills to match, so no
08:49 < aestetix> lol
08:50 <@opticron> I'm currently working with a CS major that doesn't understand how networks operate AT ALL
08:50 <@opticron> "yeah, you plug in the cable and you get the internet" level shit
08:51 < aestetix> Dagmar: I wonder how they will handle history class
08:51 <@Dagmar> They'll find more things to be triggered over
08:52 < aestetix> the best part is that if you talk to them, they react like a church lady
08:52 < aestetix> like they will gasp in astonishment when you use a forbidden word
09:20 <@Evilpig> aestetix: being offended for someone else is just the new way.  Nobody is responsible for their own actions anymore so if they're offended they're just passing the buck onto an imaginary fall guy
09:39 <@Evilpig> I don't know what is in the air this morning but my eyes are on fire.  
10:08 <@Dolemite> Ugh.   Nothing like dealing with a developer that when asked if they will add an API route that you know...   provides the same information as the prior version of an app...  they give excuses as to why they shouldn't have to because you can simply make 8 successive calls to provide the same information.
10:12 < xtort-[df-org]> i farted outside, sry
10:12 < xtort-[df-org]> usually i try to filter them through my wife's pillow
10:16 <@Dolemite> I am now channeling Evilpig in my variable naming to deal with this asshat developer
11:30 <@Evilpig> lol
11:32 <@Dolemite> foreach( $idioticNesting as $ridiculousNest ) {
11:33 <@Dolemite>   foreach ( $ridiculousNest as $fuckingFinally ) {
11:33 <@Dolemite>   }
11:33 <@Dolemite> }
11:33 <@Dolemite> After a back and forth with his PM copied, I finally whittled him down to say that he would add a route for me that gives me just what I need...   but no timeline on it.   heh
11:37 <@Dolemite> And, of course, since he's a .NET drone, all the DNS names are being stored as uppercase.
11:38 <@Dolemite> For a while, at least, Chrome was treating the CN for a certificate as case sensitive, so I'm just running everything through strtolower.   But yeah.
11:46 <@Evilpig> I've got a third indian on my current red hat support case and zero progress made in a week and a half
11:51 <@brimstone> collecting the whole set?
11:51 <@Evilpig> waiting til I have enough to play chess
11:53 <@Evilpig> I'm more annoyed than anything else.  I got indian #2 on the first and the only thing he said was "please allow me some time to review the case notes and logs and i'll get back to you"
11:53 <@Evilpig> this morning I got a message from indian #3 asking questions about the situation so i'm guessing #2 is off today?  read the notes and gave up?  maybe just accepted the case because it had been more than 24 hours on an 8hr SLA
11:54 <@Evilpig> the whole situation is frustrating.  I'm on PTO and shouldn't be messing with it at all but the jackass on my team that should be handling it in my absence is MIA
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13:56 <@Mirage> Evilpig: "Please do the needful."
13:58 <@Dolemite> "I have a small doubt"
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17:01 <@Evilpig> based on my facebook feed.  I'm going to guess there's a new "news" story running around that fauci paid a chinese lab to engineer covid-19?
18:15 < xtort-[df-org]> an infinite monkeys, an infinite number of typewriters....
18:15 < xtort-[df-org]> i english gud
18:18 <@eryc> here you go
18:18 <@eryc> https://twitter.com/covid19origin
18:18 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) https://tinyurl.com/y4h7jhn5
18:22 <@eryc> let me know if you run out of tin foil
18:35 < xtort-[df-org]> ohh, it was planned in the senior freemason meeting, that makes sense
19:58 <@Dagmar> I'm sure someone at the CIA is really going to enjoy sending that Cease & Desist order... and slipping it under the jacktard's pillow.
19:58 <@Dagmar> ...because they're the goddamn CIA, that's why.
20:13 <@Evilpig> the only thing this twitter link is missing is the simpsons did it, tie in
20:22 < jb7od> My favorite of the bush league conspiracy theories is that the vaccine is the opportunity Microsoft will inject us with tracking devices as if we don't all voluntarilly carry tracking devices already.
21:12 <@Dagmar> Am disappoint.
21:12 <@Dagmar> Whoever registered isamotherfucking.ninja and put it under afraid.org has broken the registration or something.
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21:24 < Warcop> sup
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