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03:55 < aestetix> I wonder why
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05:50 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
05:53  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
05:58 <@Dolemite> HOLY SHIT, how did I miss this for so many episodes!?   Opening credits for Debris shows an actor names "Scroobius Pip".   That is such an awesome stage name.
05:59 <@Dolemite> s/names/named/
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06:02 <@Dagmar> Okay.  _Maybe_ turning on the CD sirens for a "severe thunderstorm alert" is just asking them to be on too much in Nashville
06:13 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I think you may have given up on Debris prematurely.   It has definitely gotten better.
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08:00 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: the parallel universe jumping was very fringe-esque
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08:22 < aestetix> curious.... do any of you know anyone who has ever been hired by Robert Half?
08:29 <@Dagmar> They're pimps
08:30 <@Dagmar> Their cut is so huge it's a problem for getting the job
08:30 <@Dagmar> 40% of the contract
08:35 < aestetix> damn
08:35 < aestetix> I ask because I realized they seem like they have a ton of money, but I have never met anyone who has worked on a contract with them
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09:32 <@Dagmar> They have a ton of money because they take a massive share for the few people they actually place
10:19 <@_NSAKEY> lol Dagmar. The place I'm at, when they hired me as a contractor, originally was going to give me 42% of the contract and pocket the rest. There was some drama that lead to them giving me half.
10:19 <@_NSAKEY> I only found out about the rate the recruiter was being paid because months later, I got forwarded one of those long, meandering e-mail threads about a new person being onboarded, and the dollar amount was included there.
10:25 <@_NSAKEY> That being said, the contractor was being tossed so much money that they could get away with that shit and still offer good money to the hired guns.
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11:06 <@Mirage> 5.2x
11:06 <@Mirage> 5.2x
11:06 <@Mirage> 5.2x
11:06 <@Mirage> grr
11:08 <@Evilpig> lol
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11:55 <@Dagmar> The important thing to remember is that unlike a pimp, a recruiter doesn't care if you get any work.
11:57 < aestetix> https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/3/22418208/basecamp-all-hands-meeting-employee-resignations-buyouts-implosion
11:57 < PigBot> Inside the all-hands meeting that led to a third of Basecamp employees quitting - The Verge (at www.theverge.com)
11:57 < aestetix> enjoy
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12:11 <@Dagmar> Wow.  THey needed someone to step in and recognize the fallacies that were causing the friction
12:11 < xtort-[df-org]> i got to the funny names list potentially inciting racial violence and quit reading
12:12 <@Dagmar> The white supremacy thing... seems like one person's definition simply presumed it existed and was demanding proof of a negative, and the other person had a much milder "I haven't seen it here" but didn't have the sense to say "Do you have specific examples so that we can show some people the door?"
12:12 <@Dagmar> The "funny names list" was in poor taste
12:13 <@Dagmar> Folks should have known better than to write that down.  THey should have just chuckled when they appeared and moved on
12:13 <@Dagmar> Presenting a list of things which are presumed to be "funny" is a much different thing than an individual simply finding something amusing.
12:13 < xtort-[df-org]> agreed
12:14 <@Evilpig> I want to see the funny names list before I declare judgement on it
12:14 <@Evilpig> if you have a name like harry butts, or anita dick  it's funny.
12:14 <@Dagmar> I have no judgments based on the content of the list.  I have a judgment based on the _existence_ of the list
12:14 <@Dagmar> Humor is relative.
12:15 <@Dagmar> ...but presenting a list implies a normative, i.e., "these are things you should find funny"
12:15 <@Dagmar> Mayube not everyone finds names that rhyme funny (although a lot of asian names would fall into that)
12:16 <@Dagmar> If someone's name was really 'Biggus Dickus' then we don't really need that on a list
12:16 <@Evilpig> I need that on a list because I wouldn't otherwise get a chuckle at that.  
12:17 <@Dagmar> You never watched Monty Python?
12:17 <@Evilpig> I haven't seen it in years and definitely don't know all the character names by heart.  if I saw that on a list of funny names i'd chuckle
12:18 <@Evilpig> surely one of these click bait sites has a list of funny names
12:18 <@Evilpig> https://www.scarymommy.com/funny-dirty-names/
12:18 < PigBot> 177 Funny Dirty Names That Are Immature But Hilarious (at www.scarymommy.com)
12:18 <@Dagmar> There was a whole skit about it featuring the Romans
12:19 <@Evilpig> Jenny Tayla
12:19 <@Dagmar> Man I can't look at that list right now.  I'm in the middle of populating a table of test data.
12:19 <@Dagmar> Exactly none of those names need to make it in there.
12:20 <@Evilpig> Not even poor jenny?  racist
12:20 <@Evilpig> I think that might be my new bobby tables test user
12:20 <@Dagmar> Definitely not Jenny
12:21 <@Dagmar> 'spesh since my sql-fu is still so soft I might wipe the wrong hole
12:24 <@Dagmar> In fact, if this mysql script to create the databases and populate some test data actually works on the first run, I will be shocked
12:24 <@Dagmar> There's no telling how many sins I'm committing here
12:25 <@Dagmar> I am at least reasonably sure I am upholding the principle of 3NF but beyond that... who knows
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12:52 <@Dagmar> "INSERT INTO admins (username, realname, title, commment)"
12:53 <@Dagmar> HOLY FUCK that was the only error
13:28 <@Dagmar> My file containing the stored procedures restored my faith in my ability to write shitcode
13:29 <@Dagmar> Two doubled-up backticks, and three missing semicolons.
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16:22 <@Dagmar> Damn I feel like someone's eventually going to come to me and tell me how many trees had to die so the stored procedure I just wrote could live
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