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05:41 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
05:48  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:00 <@Mirage> This looks like it might be fun.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MSlVZnYZP0
07:03 <@Mirage> guess pigbot's broken.  Evil Genius 2: World Domination (https://evilgeniusgame.com/en )
07:03 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that looks like my kind of game
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07:33 <@Mirage> wanna be disappointed?  Go to thinkgeek.com
07:33 < Evilpig_> it got lost on a split it seems
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07:33 < Evilpig_> they've been doing that for a while now
07:33 < Evilpig_> it's barely even a category in their menu now.  end of an era
07:34 < Evilpig_> I still love my binary blanket from there, that you can't get anymore.
07:35 <@Mirage> yeah.  hadn't been there in a while.
07:35 <@Mirage> at least tshirthell is still there
07:35 < Evilpig_> they've even had a few good ones lately
07:38 <@Dolemite> So the Tucker Carlson Defense is actually a thing, now.
07:39 < Evilpig_> https://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/be-kind-of-an-asshole/
07:39 < PigBot> T-Shirt Hell :: Shirts :: BE KIND (OF AN ASSHOLE) (at www.tshirthell.com)
07:39 <@Dolemite> I'm sorry but if you make claims in multiple court cases wherein you are acting as a lawyer, you shouldn't be able to claim that as "Free speech/art"
07:40 <@Dolemite> https://gizmodo.com/sidney-powell-wants-dominion-suit-tossed-on-the-grounds-1846531520
07:40 < PigBot> Sidney Powell Moves to Have Dominion Voting Defamation Suit Tossed (at gizmodo.com)
07:43 < Evilpig_> She still has the right to say whatever she wants, she's just gonna have to pay for saying something she knew to be false or was too stupid to listen to reason when other people corrected her 
07:44 <@Dolemite> Correct - but only the truth belongs in court, so there the price is even more
07:57 <@opticron> I wonder if any of these slimy lawyers are going to end up disbarred
07:58 <@Dolemite> Powell and Giuliani should be at the top of the list
08:00 < Evilpig_> I thought giulani was alread in some shit about unpaid bar association dues or something
08:08 < aestetix> Did guiliani actually do anything illegal?
08:08 < aestetix> I guess a better question is.... do you have to do something illegal to get disbarred?
08:09 <@Dolemite> Well if you lied in court, that's perjury
08:09 <@Dolemite> Perjury is a crime
08:09 < aestetix> oh did he do that?
08:09 < aestetix> then yeah that would probably work
08:10 < aestetix> and an actual perjury, not debating what the meaning of the word "is" is :p
08:10 <@Dolemite> I'm pretty sure he participated in some of the court cases.   He certainly filed a lot of them.
08:10 <@Dolemite> All in all, Powell and Trump’s other legal lackey, attorney and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, helped to file at least 61 lawsuits in various U.S. courts on the former president’s behalf, all of which were ultimately tossed out by judges and all of which trafficked in various forms of conspiracy and misinformation.
08:11 < aestetix> Ok maybe one of you can answer this..... were any of these affadavits or lawsuit evidences offered up during the Jan 6 coup attempt?
08:11 < aestetix> When congress went and debated each state that was contested. The few minutes of that crap I watched was mostly platitudes, and no real evidence offered
08:12 <@Dolemite> There was never any real evidence offered
08:12 <@Dolemite> As determined by all of those dismissed court cases
08:13 < aestetix> Well technically an affadavit is evidence, or?
08:13 <@Dolemite> A sworn affidavit has to be truthful
08:13 < aestetix> I'm mostly asking... the so-called evidence that was thrown out by the courts, did nobody in the house or senate refer to any of those documents when contesting the state results?
08:13 <@Dolemite> Not that I'm aware of
08:14 < aestetix> Because if there was something of substance that the courts illegally tossed out, it seems like jan 6 would be a perfect time for congress to bring it up
08:15 < aestetix> but maybe I'm just not up to date with everything
08:16 < Evilpig_> Giving even an inch to any of those conspiracy theories is too much, no matter the technicality for their justification
08:17 < aestetix> I also have to point out the irony of the republican congressmen/senators who keep saying the states should have more power, and then using their power at the federal level to try to overturn a result they don't like
08:17 <@Dolemite> ayep
08:17 <@Dolemite> Or the irony of touting personal freedoms, yet supporting restrictions on abortion access
08:18 <@Dolemite> but that's a whole other rat hole
08:18 < aestetix> Or pushing for voter id laws
08:18 <@Dolemite> I don't mind the idea of requiring an ID to vote - if they actually expand access to get a valid ID
08:19 < aestetix> How do you do that for absentee ballots?
08:19 < aestetix> or mail ins?
08:19 <@Dolemite> But the latest has been to limit the number of polling locations in historically Democratic districts, forcing people to stand in line even longer
08:19 <@Dolemite> aestetix: You don't for mail-in.   Those are two separate issues.
08:19 < aestetix> oh ok
08:19 <@Dolemite> You should have to present an ID to register to vote (which you already have to in TN, at least)
08:20 < aestetix> I mean honestly
08:20 <@Dolemite> Then once you are registered, you should be able to request an absentee ballot, which is mail-in
08:20 < aestetix> IMHO if you have a law requiring ID to vote, then you should also offer the ID free of charge
08:20 <@Dolemite> Knox County was so slow to process my request I ended up going to vote on the next to last day of early voting because I was afraid I wouldn't be able to vote by mail in time
08:22 < aestetix> Also.... any reason to not make election day a national holiday?
08:22 < aestetix> Or have election week?
08:23 < aestetix> (not a whole week off, but a whole week where you can go vote)
08:23 <@Dolemite> Well the population continues to increase, so that means we should expand our voting access.
08:23 <@Dolemite> They should just run the entire election as "early voting"
08:24 <@Dolemite> 1 month of voting so that a convenient time is available for everybody
08:32 <@Dagmar> Oh that'll never be allowed
08:32 <@Dagmar> Far too many of the wrong people would vote
08:33 < aestetix> Dolemite: I mean the main issue with a month of voting is having voting monitors
08:34 < aestetix> And someone to be there to hand out ballots, process them, etc
08:34 < aestetix> otherwise, that sounds great
08:34 < aestetix> Not sure why the government couldn't foot the bill for IDs, if they are willing to pay for wars in the middle east....
08:38 < aestetix> Dagmar: well, I'm definitely the "wrong" kind, but since I vote independent they just ignore me :p
08:46 <@Dolemite> aestetix: We already do over a full month of early voting here.
08:46 <@Dolemite> But not all counties devote the resources to it
08:48 < aestetix> Dolemite: oh nice!
08:50 <@Dolemite> aestetix: This past Presidential election saw the early voting activity very busy, and the actual election day had shorter lines
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08:53 <@Mirage> But of course, according to the republicans, the governors in the battleground states overreached their rights in accepting reality and expanding the early voting in order to accomodate life during a pandemic.
08:54 <@Dolemite> Yep, it should be painful for common people to vote!
08:56 <@Dagmar> Pfft.  The GOP would have it so common people weren't allowed to vote.
08:56 < Evilpig_> ^  yes, that
08:56 <@Dagmar> You'd need to be special, rich, or otherwise privileged before you're allowed to vote republican.
08:57 <@Dagmar> ...and if you're not voting republican then you clearly aren't taking democracy seriously, so you shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.
08:57 <@Dagmar> Of course, *I* personally believe we should just _eat_ Republican, not vote Republican.
09:48 <@Mirage> This fucking guy in India is driving me nuts.  Keeps claiming that the jump host I built for his team is so slow that it's unusable.  Centos8 w/ now 8 cores and 32G of ram due to his bitching and an increaase in virtual hardware being pressed on me.  All they are doing is RDPing into it (xrdp) for an xfce4 desktop that they then turn around and RDP into other hosts with or connect to vCenter with Chrome.
09:50 <@Mirage> I installed sysstat on it and configured it to grab stuff every 5 minutes for SAR as a result of the bitching from this one guy (no one else on his team is reporting problems).  The box is essentially doing nothing, and SAR completely backs up the fact that it's not taxing the box in any way.
09:52 <@Mirage> Apparently he's got his nose up his director's ass, because upper management on his side is now saying that we need to "escalate the issue as a Sev 1 production outage"....based on one person out of 11 having a problem.
10:09 <@Dolemite> Well on the opposite end of the spectrum, I've had to take PingFed back over from the contractor we're letting go...    he had no clue about Linux.   The worker node VM's were screaming at 90-100% CPU utilization nearly all the time.
10:09 <@Dolemite> So yesterday I had the VM's bumped up to 4 vCPU each and now things are working like they should, again
10:09 <@Dolemite> Now I have to wait for them to find another newbie to bring on
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10:54 <@Mirage> ok, wtf is the site to be able to post scripts/code/etc temporarily?   guess i'm getting old or something because i haven't used it in quite a while and can't for the life of me remember
10:55 <@Mirage> nm...it just hit me.
10:55 <@Dolemite> You can use pastebin or even github has a gist capability
10:56 <@Mirage> https://pastebin.com/P1pHSHsG
10:56 < PigBot> Sar logs 3/22 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) https://tinyurl.com/yzcfa96e
10:56 <@Mirage> Pastebin is what I was trying to remember.
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10:57 <@Mirage> I think this perfectly supports that the host was doing pretty much jack shit all yesterday
10:57 <@Mirage> From when I setup sa1/sa2 in crontab anyway
11:04 <@Dolemite> blame the network
11:04 <@Mirage> I already blamed the VPN
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13:43 < aestetix> are you all still in lockdown?
13:45 <@Dolemite> Well we're not locked down, but those with any sense aren't gathering in groups
13:45 <@Dolemite> So that means there are plenty of people at the bars and restaurants
13:53 < aestetix> whereas germany just extended and enhanced the lockdown
13:53 < aestetix> germany is really fucking this whole thing up
14:03 < Evilpig_> sounds like shit is still spreading so they're trying to tell people to stop spreading it
14:03 < Evilpig_> vs here where our dipshit governor went to a city that still has local mandates and flounted his disregard of them
14:03 <@Dolemite> ROFL, I have some of those scammer payback youtube videos playing in the background...
14:04 <@Dolemite> the one I'm on the payback dude (using a little old lady voice modulator) just managed to add in the Konami Code to his conversation
14:04 < Evilpig_> https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/03/12/tennessee-governor-bill-lee-draws-scrutiny-maskless-nashville-visit/4661996001/
14:04 < PigBot> Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee draws scrutiny after maskless Nashville visit (at www.tennessean.com)
14:05 < Evilpig_> https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wsmv.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/25/b251ee61-ff9b-5a02-9dc2-d678f3f0fc8d/5fb9e649f3c25.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C675
14:05 < PigBot> None (at bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com)
14:06 < Evilpig_> pretty sure these signs are still downtown.  I wouldn't know because I avoid that place when there isn't a health situation going on
14:24 < aestetix> Evilpig_: it would be a lot better if they were also getting the vaccine out
14:24 < Evilpig_> but blood clots
14:25 < aestetix> yeah. 13 people got blood clots.
14:25  * aestetix sighs
14:25 < aestetix> one of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen
14:25 < Evilpig_> of which didn't they identify those 13 people have some common condition that caused them?
14:25 < aestetix> something like that
14:25 < aestetix> and I mean, for a virus that is killing hundreds of people every day..... stopping the vaccine to save 13 potential blood clots
14:25 < Evilpig_> wtf?  I just logged into a centos 7 server that doesn't have lvm on it
14:26 < Evilpig_> isn't there a law against that?
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20:12 <@Dagmar> 19 minutes until Negativland!  w00t
20:13 <@Dagmar> Evilpig_: I'd go through the provisioning logs and have "words" with someone about their transgressions
20:13 <@Dagmar> Evilpig_: You might want to tell them that Dagmar doesn't even have a /boot partition on his home stuff.  A _Slackware_ user is just using LVM as the sole partition on the disk.
20:39 <@Dagmar> Negativland just dropped the best graphical loading screen ever.
20:39 <@Dagmar> "Stand by for Failure!"
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23:09 <@Mirage> Ugh, don't you just hate winding up with a beer where the nitro canister that has already popped before opening..   Flat/skunky Murphy's Stout..ewww
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