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05:44 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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05:58  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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11:13 <@Evilpig> any tutorial for kubernetes should just have a picture of a wizard and glitter.
11:13 <@Evilpig> nothing else,  no explanation.  just that.  and maybe a rough outline of a pony for when you get completely off track
11:13 <@Dolemite> bah
11:14 <@Evilpig> trying to get this cluster to work with the F5, and there is so much voodoo involved.  it's unreal
11:14 <@Dolemite> Are you tasked with managing an existing k8s cluster, setting one up, or just decided to learn about it?
11:14 <@Dolemite> What ingress controller is it configured to use?
11:15  * Mirage_ agrees with Evilpig 
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11:15 <@Evilpig> we have a project that is currently underway to determine a container platform for the enterprise and there are two real players.  redhat and vmware.  so part of our task was to get a better understanding of kubernetes and get it working with our F5 as an ingress controller to get a deep look at how all the pieces work
11:17 <@Dolemite> The easiest way to do it is to use nginx-ingress-controller to expose everything as a NodePort, then you setup the F5 to point to every cluster node on that port as the back end
11:17 <@Evilpig> that's what we figured out today.  and the nodeport portion seems dumb as hell
11:18 <@Evilpig> if the F5 is part of the cluster then it should have access to the raw services in the secret glitter network
11:18 <@Evilpig> but the wizard just won't give up his magic dust because voodoo
11:18 <@Dolemite> Are you doing full stack SDN?
11:19 <@Dolemite> Because that's pretty much what you have to do if you use the hardware load balancers as the ingress
11:19 <@Evilpig> fuck if I know.  we're still trying to figure the basic pieces out
11:19 <@Evilpig> and then the added bit after we get past that is how will this work in azure and on prem
11:19 <@Dolemite> Yeah, what you're doing is trying to bake a Cake Boss Cake when you're still using an EZ Bake Oven
11:19 <@Evilpig> I hate this entire thing
11:20 <@Dolemite> AKS is much simpler
11:20 <@Evilpig> gonna go fix me a sandwich and pop some more pills.  see if my hands will stop screaming
11:20 <@Dolemite> Stop tuggin' yer balls all morning
11:24 <@Evilpig> this rain has the arthritis in my hands flared up
11:25 <@Evilpig> the organization is saying "we want containers yesterday" and we're looking at we can deploy X, but we need to understand how the fuck it works to support it and none of us have any interest in it.  the tech is changing rapid enough that the tutorials we had from F5 are mostly all broken.  it's irritating
11:36 <@Dolemite> I originally looked at Docker Enterprise (now dead), OpenShit, and OpenStack before eventually landing with Rancher, which I feel is the absolutel best in terms of being able to provide your end users with the ability to do some self service.
11:37 <@Dolemite> The nice thing is that Rancher is distro neutral, so it can manage any k8s compliant cluster, including Azure/Google/AWS with a single management interface.
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13:39 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Wouldn't it have been cool if they'd retained anyone who cared about such things
13:42 <@Mirage> this might be good. https://tvline.com/2021/02/26/the-time-travelers-wife-rose-leslie-theo-james-cast-hbo-series/
13:42 < PigBot>  ‘The Time Traveler’s Wife’: Rose Leslie, Theo James Cast in HBO Series | TVLine  (at tvline.com)
13:43 <@Mirage> main reason for saying that is "Adapted by Steven Moffat (Sherlock, Doctor Who), ..."
13:45 <@Dagmar> Usually to use websockets you'll need to use javascript
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17:50 <@Mirage> I swear I remember something from Sunday school about worshiping golden idols... https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/26/politics/trump-gold-statue-cpac-2021/index.html
17:50 < PigBot> Golden Trump statue turns heads at CPAC - CNNPolitics (at www.cnn.com) https://tinyurl.com/y9mlgujv
18:13 <@Mirage> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/federal-judge-texas-rules-eviction-moratorium-unconstitutional-n1258988
18:13 < PigBot> Federal judge in Texas rules eviction moratorium is unconstitutional (at www.nbcnews.com) https://tinyurl.com/ycgnmg2p
18:14 <@Mirage> I thought the national moratorium was for federal mortgage loans...wouldn't that fall under federal jurisdiction?
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19:48 <@Dagmar> Gosh I hope they keep that attitude in mind when some utility company in Texas has to file for bankruptcy
21:06 <@Dagmar> Syfy has a real winner on their hands with Resident Alien
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