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11:05 <@Mirage> https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/something-bit-my-butt-alaska-woman-attacked-by-bear-while-using-outhouse/
11:05 < PigBot> ‘Something bit my butt’: Alaska woman attacked by bear while using outhouse | KTLA (at ktla.com)
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17:04 <@Dagmar> I bought $117-worth of snax
17:06 <@Dagmar> Gustavo6046: Have they provided a good reason for not doing ICMP?
17:07 <@eryc> not yet
17:08 <@eryc> you should probably filter icmp except for type 8 tho
17:08 <@Dagmar> Meh.  Even that is pointless.
17:09 <@Dagmar> Rate limiting is easy enough, given sufficiently not-incompetent network engineers
17:11 <@eryc> https://www.cynet.com/attack-techniques-hands-on/how-hackers-use-icmp-tunneling-to-own-your-network/
17:11 < PigBot> How Hackers Use ICMP Tunneling to Own Your Network - Cynet (at www.cynet.com)
17:11 <@eryc> https://owasp.org/www-pdf-archive/ICMP_Attacks.pdf
17:12 < PigBot> None (at owasp.org)
17:12 <@Dagmar> Again, not really hard to filter out
17:12 <@Dagmar> ...and it's not like we can't generally just open a freakin VPN tunnel
17:12 <@Dagmar> Believe me I am no stranger to network shens, although I'm more fond of using DNS
18:00 <@eryc> Dagmar: how do you like the oculus?
18:00 <@eryc> walmart has them for $299
18:02 <@Dagmar> Everywhere has them for $299
18:02 <@Dagmar> The Quest 2 is actually better htan I expected
18:02 <@Dagmar> I haven't really played any games with it yet, but there's multiple apps for just plain viewing media off a samba share or DLNA
18:03 <@Dagmar> WEll, I've played some simple games with it
18:03 <@Dagmar> There's not a lot that really caters to *sitting down* which is somewhat annoying
18:03 <@Dagmar> Than hand tracking is fairly cool tho
18:07 <@Dagmar> Honestly I've been playing the hell out of Valheim this week
18:08 <@Dagmar> I think I'm probably going to set up a standalone server for it
18:08 <@Dagmar> It's a bit like Minecraft in that's it's way more entertaining than it would at first appear
18:09 <@Dagmar> The number and type of animals is somewhat limited, but the landscape and constructions are almost astonishingly good looking
18:12 <@eryc> i have a velheim server
18:12 <@eryc> did you see the millenium falcon cabin?
18:12 <@Dagmar> No, I didn't... *googles*
18:13 <@Dagmar> Hmm... I guess it's not in the googles yte
18:13 <@Dagmar> Ah Reddit has it (of course)
18:13 <@Dagmar> That's a little nuts
18:14 <@eryc> ya
18:14 <@eryc> oh are you using your pc for rendering?
18:14 <@Dagmar> For Valheim, yes
18:14 <@eryc> for VR i mean
18:14 <@Dagmar> For the Quest 2, sometimes
18:14 <@eryc> hm.. my graphics card is kinda old
18:15 <@Dagmar> I got the cable and I need to sit down and go through the thngs to start doing it wirelessly
18:15 <@eryc> i have a geforce gtx 780
18:15 <@Dagmar> I have a 1660Ti which seems to work okay... There's some tweaking I clearly need to do
18:15 <@Dagmar> You basically need USB 3.1 to do it with the Quest 2's Rift mode
18:16 <@Dagmar> I've only spent about fifteen minutes with it in that mode, screwing around with The Lab on Steam
18:16 <@eryc> i only have usb 3.0
18:16 <@Dagmar> It was a little glitchy
18:16 <@eryc> did you see portal 2 has a coop mode now?
18:17 <@Dagmar> I've seen reports it should be more than fine, so I've just got to decide what needs to be killed off
18:17 <@Dagmar> No, I didn't see that.
18:17 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure I'd want to even try that in VR
18:17 <@Dagmar> I am, however, going to defintely take a whack at the VR mod for GTAV
18:18 <@Dagmar> If someone makes that work for RDR2 that would be very cool
18:19 <@Dagmar> I am seriously considering finding out what's inside this troll cave
18:20 <@Dagmar> Skellies are doable enough that I've actually left a bone pile unsmashed in case I wanna come back for easy bone chips, but...
18:20 <@Dagmar> ...I have serious misgivings about dealing with troll in an enclosed space.
18:20 <@Dagmar> Those fuckers are *mean*
18:20 <@eryc> i hate the goblins more
18:20 <@Dagmar> I have actually made use of one to help me clear trees
18:20 <@Dagmar> The goblins are pretty easy until you get the entire goddamn brigade after you
18:21 <@eryc> is this mythric cable just usb c?
18:21 <@eryc> *mytrix
18:21 <@Dagmar> Probably, but it's not _quite_ so clear-cut
18:21 <@Dagmar> Basically, it needs to have the _nine_ pins
18:22 <@Dagmar> Just having a type-c connector on one end might just be a four-connector cable, but to get the max throughput needed, there's an extra five pins that are sort of snuggled into the back of the type-A connector
18:22 <@eryc> ah
18:22 <@Dagmar> Mainly check the Amazon reviews to find out if it's really capable of doing the job
18:23 <@Dagmar> My _guess_ is that the $75 cable they sell costs what it does is because it's using some of that electricity to power tiny LEDs to punt the actual signal through fiber
18:24 <@Dagmar> The third-party ones are straight copper, but the 10ft one I got has more than enough oomph to charge the thing and send 2Gb/s
18:24 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure it would be sane or reasonable to try longer than 16ft with pure copper
18:24 <@Dagmar> ...but I'll damn well order another wireless AP just for the two OQ2 units we have here now if wireless works out
18:25 <@eryc> https://vrscout.com/news/oculus-link-now-works-with-usb-2/
18:25 < PigBot> You Can Now Use Oculus Link With Nearly Any USB-C Cable - VRScout (at vrscout.com)
18:26 <@eryc> oh you bought a 2nd one?
18:26 <@Dagmar> Yeah I got one for Audra
18:26 <@Dagmar> In THEORY there are co-op games we can play
18:28 <@eryc> i just bought one
18:28 <@eryc> i'm gonna wait on the cable since my pc likely can't render fast enough anyway
18:28 <@eryc> i have some fast charging usb c cables
18:29 <@Dagmar> I solve the goblin problem with a bow, mainly
18:29 <@Dagmar> THe moment I see the little fuckers I start popping them at range
18:29 <@Dagmar> Everyone less than a shaman or a brute just gets whacked with the club
18:30 <@Dagmar> I have built cabins all over the damn place
18:30 <@Dagmar> At the moment I'm clearing out a reasonably-sized chunk of Dark Forest, and planning on building a boat dock
18:35 <@eryc> i'm just still bitter about the time i spawned in and got speared by a troll before i could move and he laughed at me
18:36 <@eryc> we've basically done everything in valheim except the next/last boss
18:37 <@eryc> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1lNMk7ZZdvArd0e01SBCEto8_l_AuFP2MH1znfV1HE6Q/htmlview#
18:37 < PigBot> Valheim Spreadsheet - Google Drive (at docs.google.com) https://tinyurl.com/yc35a6qm
18:44 <@Dagmar> eryc: I am making sure my cabins _near_ the Black Forest have a nice sturdy fence around them
18:44 <@Dagmar> I already had one of them just blast my little crap shack into kidling
18:44 <@Dagmar> er kindling
18:44 <@Dagmar> Flaming arrows, on the other hand, work pretty darned well on them
18:46 <@eryc> frost arrows are nice too
18:58 <@eryc> the oculus site does say that the link cable is fiber optic
18:58 <@eryc> i'm downloading flight simulator and want to play in vr so now i need a new gfx card
19:19 <@Dagmar> Oh dear.  I might have overshot with the wood
19:19 <@Dagmar> I've just been chopping it and stashing it in piles
19:19 <@Dagmar> 19 piles will probably be enough
19:30 <@eryc> who do i have to kill to get one of these RTX cards
19:32 <@Dagmar> Heh
19:32 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much why I went for the 1660Ti when I did
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20:06 <@eryc> how much did you spend on the 1660?
20:11 <@Dagmar> $230 I *think**
20:48 <@Dagmar> Gustavo6046: There's a difference between "a difference" and "a significant difference"
21:20 < jb7od> That's a significant finding.
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