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06:03 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:03 <@Dolemite> Mirage: You are not the first person I've heard that from, which is why I haven't bothered with it
06:05 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: We've got a ridiculous level of complexity in our GitLab licenses.  Everything is double, because we have "Moderate" vs "Open" data, which have to reside on separate environments.
06:05  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:06 <@Dolemite> So Basic.Mod, Basic.Open, Premium.Mod, Premium.Open, Ultimate.Mod, Ultimate.Premium
06:07 <@Dolemite> And we keep getting these managers who have sales birds whispering in their ear that GitOps is the shiznit, but they leave out the part about how Jenkins triggering from webhooks in a repo is pretty much the OG GitOps and we're already doing it without paying that monthly license fee.
06:08 < aestetix> just use self hosted
06:10 <@Dolemite> That IS GitLab
06:11 <@Dolemite> GitHub is the cloud one
06:12 <@Dolemite> We also have a GitLab instance dedicated to just the web development group, so 7 environments.   I both look forward to and dread the day when they decide that Platform Services should be managing it, because that means it will fall on me.
06:12 <@Dolemite> Or, at least, Platform should be managing the instance used for the Enterprise
06:13 <@Dolemite> Let the R&D group continue to manage the environments for the researchers
06:13 < aestetix> no, gitlab does hosted too
06:13 < aestetix> that's how they make a bunch of their money
06:13 <@Dolemite> Well all of ours are self hosted
06:14 < aestetix> and you can self host gitlab runners too
06:14 <@Dolemite> Yes, we do
06:14 < aestetix> but they make a lot of money off cloud runners that you pay for per test
06:14 < aestetix> apparently not enough though
06:14 <@Dolemite> We're 100% self hosted in terms of GitLab and runners
06:52 <@Evilpig> Basically gitlab is making a cash grab.  https://youtu.be/zG9d1y2jE14
06:52 < PigBot> GitLab New Product Subscription Model - YouTube (at youtu.be) https://tinyurl.com/yyzvb7s4
06:55 <@Dolemite> yep
06:55 <@Dolemite> This is why they've been positioning the marketing around the term "GitOps" rather than DevOps.
06:56 <@Dolemite> They want that name out there to make the idiots think that if you're not using GitLab for 100% of your lifecycle then you're doing it wrong
06:56 <@Evilpig> they've tried pushing us to the higher tier the last two years but we just didn't need any of that shit
06:56 <@Evilpig> the ldap sync would be nice, but it's not worth $15/user/mo
06:56 <@Dolemite> We've got R&D folks that, of course, want the Premium features
06:58 <@Dolemite> Do they still require Premium just to be able to inject secrets into the code?
06:58 <@Evilpig> the one feature that they got us with to move from community edition/free to the starter was this.  https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/merge_requests/merge_request_approvals.html#required-approvals
06:58 < PigBot> Merge Request Approvals | GitLab (at docs.gitlab.com)
06:59 < aestetix> Evilpig: that's in free
06:59 < aestetix> what does premium offer over free?
07:00 <@Evilpig> aestetix: merge approvals were not in free and on the current feature list they are not in the free tier either
07:01 < aestetix> I am using free self hosted, and in a MR I see an approve button
07:01 < aestetix> or do you mean something else
07:01 < aestetix> oh I see
07:01 < aestetix> optional vs required
07:02 <@Dolemite> I believe it's the REQUIRED part that Pig is referring to
07:02 < aestetix> so the required approval thing is in the paid version
07:02 <@Evilpig> we set up our configuration management repo to require two people to sign off before you can merge to prod
07:02 < aestetix> ok yeah
07:04 <@Evilpig> end of the day, a large portion of their customers didn't need the shit they were pouring money into and they're risking alienating a good portion for a cash grab
07:05 < aestetix> yep
07:05 <@Evilpig> in our environment I'm gonna be tasked with seeking an alternative after we renew at the $4/user rate this last time
07:05 < aestetix> seems they were trying to compete with jira, jenkins, and a few other companies, all at the same time
07:05 <@Dolemite> Yep
07:06 <@Evilpig> but first this morning, I have to deal with sudo.
07:06 < aestetix> oh and slack
07:06 < aestetix> since they added mattermost
07:06 < aestetix> gitlab basically has a long list of features I disable because they are useless to me
07:06 <@Dolemite> And they've made sure to mix a lot of different features in the tiers just to maximize the number of licenses
07:06 <@Dolemite> Oh, now I remember...  to integrate with Vault, you had to have Premium
07:06 < aestetix> what is Vault
07:07 <@Dolemite> It's a vault, duh
07:07 <@Dolemite> You store credentials in it and then grant access to your apps to pull from it
07:07 <@Dolemite> That way no passwords are stored in your Git project
07:07 <@Dolemite> Only the runner can pull the credentials from the vault, which it does during the pipeline
07:08 < aestetix> oh so it's like ansible-vault
07:08 <@Dolemite> One in the same
07:08 <@Dolemite> So if you don't buy a premium license, then you have to use their Variables function, where you're storing the credentials in the repo
07:10 < aestetix> I have to say I'm surprised, btw
07:10 < aestetix> normally the gitlab CEO guy is playing damage control on hn
07:11 < aestetix> I haven't seen anything from him today yet
07:11 < aestetix> of course gitlab also does a number of things as a company I would never do
07:11 < aestetix> such as livestreaming all their meetings, and making all the salaries based on an algoritm
07:14 < aestetix> based on comments.... I do wonder how gitlab as a company seems so removed from its userbase
07:19 <@Evilpig> they just announced that yesterday.  expect shit to start today
07:20 < aestetix> ah ok, time delay
07:20 <@Evilpig> and add on the sudo announcement yesterday to help muffle
07:47 < aestetix> maybe someone here has a theory on this
07:47 < aestetix> cory doctorow left boingboing and went to work on pluralistic.net
07:47 < aestetix> how does he make money there?
07:47 < aestetix> or does he just get money from his book sales
07:48 <@Dolemite> royalties most likely
07:48 <@Dolemite> boingboing has gotten further and further off the rails over the past few years
07:49 <@Dolemite> and now they're pushing their affiliate links to amazon crap
07:49 < aestetix> yes, I stopped reading it probably five years ago
07:49 < aestetix> I stopped reading a lot of things in 2015, for obvious reasons
07:49 <@Dolemite>  still hit it nearly daily, but I click a lot less on the headlines
09:57 < oddball> boigboing... there's a site I haven't thought about in a long, long time.  Used to read it religiously.
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10:19 < aestetix> yeah I don't remember exactly when I stopped reading it
10:19 < aestetix> I do know that around.... 2015/2016, it stopped being useful
10:19 < aestetix> like, I got a few things posted on there, and none of it got any traffic
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11:21 <@Dagmar> https://www.jwz.org/blog/2021/01/i-told-you-so-2021-edition/
11:21 < PigBot> jwz: I told you so, 2021 edition (at www.jwz.org) https://tinyurl.com/y5s5z6w6
11:35 <@eryc> https://adssettings.google.com/
11:35 < PigBot> Ad Settings (at adssettings.google.com)
12:01 < aestetix> ok so
12:01 < aestetix> can someone tldr to me what is going on with GME in the stock market?
12:01 < aestetix> or ELI5
12:01 < aestetix> that's what I mean
12:01 <@Dagmar> Do you know how a "short sell" of a stock works?
12:02 < aestetix> I think so. Just watched a few videos on it
12:02 <@Dagmar> THen you should understand what's going on with GameStop
12:02 <@Dagmar> So clearly you don't
12:03 <@Dagmar> Basically, short selling a stock is _borrowing_ shares from someone who owns them, for a set period of time
12:03 <@Dagmar> At the end of that period of time, the short seller has to return those shares.
12:03 < aestetix> right
12:03 < aestetix> the margin thing
12:03 < aestetix> what I don't get.... how  can you sell shares that you don't own
12:03 <@Dagmar> What _typically_ happens is that the short seller would, for example, borrow 1,000 shares, and then immediately sell them at market prices of $10/each
12:03 <@eryc> aestetix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdpVzzXWOTA
12:03 <@Dagmar> Fucking pay attention
12:04 <@Dagmar> I'm telling you.
12:04 < aestetix> ok
12:04 < PigBot> Gamestop shorts lose BILLIONS, get $2 billion bailout; AND KEEP SHORTING ANYWAY! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/y2rk34jp
12:04 <@Dagmar> So... They shorted 1,000 shares and now have $10,000 in hand.
12:04 <@Dagmar> Thirty days goes by.  The short-seller has to return 1,000 shares back to the loaner.
12:05 <@Dagmar> So, THE IDEA is that at some point during those thirty days the price of the stock will have fallen, to say, $7, so they buy 1,000 shares back at $7, return them to the loaner, and pocket the extra $3,000.
12:05 < aestetix> got it
12:05 <@Dagmar> Enter, the filthy hordes of Reddit into the equation
12:05 < aestetix> ok thanks, that clears it all up
12:05 <@Dagmar> Also, this has happened before, on this scale
12:05 <@Dagmar> So fuck Citron
12:06 < aestetix> it's not that they sell back the same shares, it's just that they buy and sell back the same number of shares
12:06 < aestetix> that's where I was confused
12:06 <@Dagmar> Basically, Reddit users noticed that a hedge fund had a LOT of shorts of GME
12:06 <@Dagmar> Now remember, at the end of the short, _stocks_ have to be returned
12:06 <@Dagmar> Not a dollar-value-equivalent, but _stocks_
12:06 < aestetix> right
12:06 <@_NSAKEY> And the best way to explain wallstreetbets is to point out that a lot of then use Robinhood, which sells order flow to high frequency traders. When you have people doing big options bets, the HFT algos go "Wait, does someone know something's up?" and it's YOLO time
12:06 <@Dagmar> So what happens when the price _doesn't_ go down and the time runs out?
12:07 < aestetix> you're fucked
12:07 <@_NSAKEY> Exactly
12:07 <@Dagmar> Well, sort of.  If the stock went up to $11, you have no choice but to spend $11,000 to repay the stock loan
12:07 <@Dagmar> If there are _not very many shares available on the open market_ at that time, guess what happens
12:07 <@Dagmar> Supply vs demand.
12:07 <@Dagmar> It's goint to cause slippage
12:08 <@eryc> https://apnews.com/article/gamestop-stocks-reddit-updates-0bfe08b10002e7bb334983948f53b6e4
12:08 < PigBot> In battle over GameStop shares, two big players flinch (at apnews.com) https://tinyurl.com/yxfujlwf
12:08 <@_NSAKEY> GME is also not the kind of company that a bunch of institutional investors or even big names dump money into very often. When they do, it's newsworthy.
12:08 <@_NSAKEY> That helped contribute to the price. The chewy.com buy bought in.
12:08 <@Dagmar> If you're very stupid and you're say, a competitor to Volkswagon and you're talking shit about Volkswagon in public... Volkswagon might actually buy a bunch of their shares back off the market
12:08 <@eryc> the shorters exited already
12:08 <@_NSAKEY> I'm still kicking myself for not buying in when they announced Reggie from Nintendo was joining the board
12:08 <@eryc> now's a good time to short
12:09 < aestetix> so the shorters have exited, which means everyone buying right now is a moron
12:09 <@_NSAKEY> eryc: That claim was very oddly worded. There's still 130% shares shorted.
12:09 < aestetix> or they are betting that the stock price will keep going up
12:09 <@Dagmar> ...so when your call comes... suddenly Volkswagon's stock is worth more than your little company
12:09 < aestetix> just like with bitcoin
12:09 <@eryc> where does it show 130% shorted
12:09 <@_NSAKEY> I forget where I saw that
12:09 <@Dagmar> THat doesn't seem possible
12:09 < aestetix> I saw that number too
12:09 <@_NSAKEY> but there's still more shorts for shares than there are shares
12:09 <@eryc> this apnews is from a few hours ago
12:09 <@Dagmar> Well, shares available on the specific market they were trading one
12:09 <@_NSAKEY> which is what fundamentally caused this whole crazy mess
12:09 <@eryc> so i'd expect to see that % change
12:09 < aestetix> Dagmar: thanks
12:10 < aestetix> that helped a lot
12:10 <@Dagmar> If someone was supplying shares to short that they didn't own, the FTC will soon be cornholing them
12:10 < aestetix> the key is to see stocks as currency
12:10 <@Dagmar> But like, Google for volkswagon short squeeze
12:10 <@Dagmar> It's _funny_
12:10 <@Dagmar> Volkswagon fucked some people who were trying to screw them over, and they fucked them _hard_
12:11 <@_NSAKEY> And in that quarter, porsche made more money from the infinity squeeze than they did selling cars
12:12 <@Dagmar> Oh!
12:12 <@eryc> the number of shorts was published Dec 31
12:12 <@Dagmar> Now I know how it got to 130%
12:12 <@Dagmar> derp
12:12 <@Dagmar> It wasn't 130% when they placed their shorts
12:12 <@Dagmar> THey would have been fucking stupid to have done so
12:13 <@Dagmar> ...but at any large number an active player could have decided to see if they can buy enough of the offered stocks to put a squeeze on
12:14 <@_NSAKEY> https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l642ms/updated_jan_27th_short_interest_data_posted_by_s3/
12:14 < PigBot> UPDATED JAN 27TH SHORT INTEREST DATA POSTED BY S3 PARTNERS THIS MORNING : wallstreetbets (at www.reddit.com) https://tinyurl.com/yy92bntp
12:14 <@_NSAKEY> 139.73%
12:14 <@eryc> thats still at least 5 hours ago
12:15 <@Dagmar> Oh anyone whose shorts haven't closed is so fucked
12:15 <@_NSAKEY> that's newer than dec 31st
12:15 <@Dagmar> So very, very fucked
12:15 <@_NSAKEY> There's going to be a lot of money lost over this
12:15 <@_NSAKEY> Somewhere out there, some boomer won't be able to buy his wife's boyfriend another Rolex for Valentine's Day.
12:16 <@eryc> that reddit thread is helpful
12:17 <@eryc> seems the current situation is unclear
12:17 <@Dagmar> No, it's quite clear
12:17 <@_NSAKEY> The volatility today has been hysterical.
12:17 <@Dagmar> It's about as "unclear" as what happens after a modern nuclear war
12:17 <@_NSAKEY> I bought 32 shares in a retirement account for the lulz, and have been as far down as -1000, and as far up as +3200 since the market opened.
12:18 <@Dagmar> Let'
12:18 <@Dagmar> Let's say I'm just an ASSHOLE, and I go on the NYSE and list a share of GME for $10,000
12:19 <@_NSAKEY> I figure if I fuck this up, I won't be touching the money for 30+ years anyway.
12:19 <@Dagmar> THere's a good fucking chance I'll get it right now if they're shorted past 100%
12:20 <@_NSAKEY> Friday is doom's day, with possibly bleedover on monday. I'm hopping off the YOLO train in probably 48 hours.
12:20 <@_NSAKEY> *possible
12:21 <@Dagmar> Theyll wind up suspending trading on it, which will let insiders get to make the most of the dough
12:21 <@Dagmar> So... probably bouncing early is a good idea
12:22 <@Dagmar> Those hedge funds are going to need to come up with a lot of stocks from somewhere, and it's probably going to be people's private stashes
12:23 <@Dagmar> I guess we'll learn how many of them believe in the power of prayer
12:24 <@Dagmar> They will get into a ton of trouble for closing their short at a loss, but not as much trouble as what'll happen when the time runs out and they're fighting over the scraps on the open market with the rest of hte idiots
12:27 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUbJcGoYQ4 this is a good explanation too
12:28 <@_NSAKEY> https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l65uop/they_are_shutting_us_out/
12:28 < PigBot> Why mainstream media's slander of wallstreetbets pisses me off regarding GME. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) https://tinyurl.com/yy2kqalk
12:28 < PigBot> THEY ARE SHUTTING US OUT : wallstreetbets (at www.reddit.com) https://tinyurl.com/yyoyswgu
12:28 <@_NSAKEY> I experienced that with Fidelity this morning loooool
12:29 <@Dagmar> I wonder if someone's paid for a DDoS bot
12:29 <@_NSAKEY> Different parts of the site worked while others failed.
12:29 <@_NSAKEY> My guess is high trade volume at the open.
12:29 <@_NSAKEY> Elon Musk tweeted about GME yesterday.
12:29 <@Dagmar> Also possibly some persons interfering in hopes of getting out before everything burns to the ground
12:30 <@_NSAKEY> There's been short ladder nonsense since last week.
12:36 < aestetix> man
12:36 < aestetix> after this explanation from Louis Rossmann
12:36 < aestetix> I *really* hate wall street
12:38 <@_NSAKEY> As we all should.
12:39 <@_NSAKEY> That's one thing that's so satisfying about watching this GME thing. Sure, a bunch of retail investors are going to get slaughtered after it peaks, but we'll see some hedge funds go under over this.
12:42 <@Dagmar> There will sure as fuck be new restrictions placed on shorts
12:42 <@_NSAKEY> Yup.
12:42 <@Dagmar> Institutional investors have been fucking people over for awhile now, it's about time they got fucked back
12:42 <@_NSAKEY> I'm not even allowed to short stocks because of where I work and their company policy. We're supposed to believe in the market, or whatever. So in a way, it's hilarious to watch.
12:42 <@Dagmar> If that's what it takes to stop this
12:42 <@Dagmar> >100% short shouldn't have been allowed in the first place
12:43 <@Dagmar> Like, shit should have started getting called the moment it reached that point
12:45 < aestetix> how exactly do you get over 100% on shorts?
12:45 < aestetix> like.... don't you have to borrow the same stock twice?
12:45 <@Dagmar> Trusting naievely that they won't all be called in at once
12:46 <@Dagmar> Not all shares of a company's stock are immediately available on the market
12:46 <@Dagmar> the NYSE doesn't like, own them or anything
12:46 <@_NSAKEY> They can also borrow from institional investors. Borrowing from retail investors is harder.
12:46 < aestetix> oh ok. so they shorted 130% of available stock
12:46 <@Dagmar> THere's custodial arrangements to keep people from listing stock they don't actually own
12:47 <@Dagmar> Those shorters are going to have to _beg_ for people to sell them their private shres
12:47 < aestetix> hahaha
12:47 <@_NSAKEY> That's the idea.
12:48 <@_NSAKEY> It's like I've been telling people with emojis
12:48 <@_NSAKEY> :diamond: :raised hands: = :rocket: :sweat drops:
12:48 < aestetix> honestly
12:48 < aestetix> this sounds like a fuck you for 2008
12:48 <@_NSAKEY> That's exactly how I'm looking at it.
12:49 < aestetix> which makes it so great
12:49 <@_NSAKEY> Whatever I happen to make (or not make) is a bonus. I just want to see the loss porn from boomers.
12:49 < aestetix> I just like watching justice finally served
12:49 < aestetix> Since the government (thanks obama) didn't do shit
12:50 <@_NSAKEY> That wasn't just Obama, although I agree with you. The bailouts started under Bush, and the conditions that lead to that whole crash were fostered under his administration.
12:50 < aestetix> well yeah I know
12:51 <@_NSAKEY> But it's like they settled on Madoff and went "Ok, our job's done. Back to the Chickenshit Country Club we go!"
12:52 < aestetix> hmm
12:53 < aestetix> I am tempted to buy a share in gamestop just to make sure those assholes can't get it
12:59 <@Dagmar> Support the greed of Chinese investors.  Buy some LINK and ETH.
13:36 <@_NSAKEY> LOL https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l66f7o/even_the_mooch_knows_were_coming_for_the_suits/
13:36 < PigBot> Even the MOOCH knows we’re coming for the suits!!! : wallstreetbets (at www.reddit.com) https://tinyurl.com/y2aqbjq6
13:42 <@Dolemite> It's hilarious
13:42 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Of course they went after Madoff.  Madoff stole from _rich people_.  That's not allowed at all.
13:43 <@Dagmar> The rules of capitalism only allow you to steal from people who are poorer
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13:59 <@_NSAKEY> That's a good point.
14:10 <@Mirage> shit like this annoys me because it looks good on paper, but it largely pointless.  https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/536031-us-considering-mandatory-covid-19-tests-for-domestic-flyers-cdc
14:10 < PigBot> US considering mandatory COVID-19 tests for domestic flyers, CDC official says | TheHill (at thehill.com) https://tinyurl.com/yyxd8wlp
14:12 <@eryc> why is it pointless
14:13 <@Mirage> Even if it's a rapid test, the tests aren't 100% by any shape of the imagination, and if it's not a rapid test then unless the person is quarantined until the results come back there's nothing to say they weren't exposed afterward....or were just incubating at the time and is actually positive by the time the test results come in.
14:13 <@eryc> so you're saying there's a chance
14:13 <@Dolemite> I know people are butthurt at the idea, but requiring vaccination to even get in the airport is a better idea
14:14 <@Mirage> i'm saying that given the reality of it, the hassle doesn't justify it.
14:14 <@Dolemite> But hey, you know, Trump was right about something...   TN's COVID positivity rate has gone down
14:14 <@eryc> but taking off your shoes is justified?
14:14 <@Dolemite> Then again, they've also stopped all contact tracing and reduced testing by a considerable percentage
14:15 <@Mirage> yes, requiring vaccinations or having something showing that you are positive for the antibodies makes sense...because those persons would not be carriers
14:15 <@Dolemite> eryc: Now, now, let's not go crazy
14:15 <@Dolemite> Besides, only poor people have to take off their shoes.   Those who pay for TSA PreCheck get to bypass that part.
14:16 <@Mirage> Dolemite: only if the airline doesn't fuck you by failing to add that shit to your ticket.
14:16 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: the positivity has gone done according to intake numbers at VUMC
14:16 <@Evilpig> last week we had 150 folks in rooms, this week 74
14:17 <@Dolemite> Mirage: That's why I have a copy of my TSA PreCheck confirmation letter on my phone
14:17 <@Mirage> Also, now that you mentioned that, I don;t think I ever got anything from them with my official results, etc...just a screenshot I took from the site showing that everything passed
14:17 <@Mirage> Dolemite: They told me last time I flew that unless it was marked on my boarding pass, it didn;t mean shit
14:18 <@Dolemite> Well maybe in big city airports
14:18 <@Dolemite> But I live in a town where the airport has 10 gates
14:18 <@Mirage> I wouldn't be suprised if DFW has it's own zipcode
14:19 <@Dolemite> Of course, I checked for the code at the checkin counter rather than the TSA line, so they added the code when I gave them the flyer ID number
14:19 <@Mirage> I hate that place.
14:21 <@Dolemite> So we're cutting off anon smtp soon, and announced that you have to use auth (user/pass or cert based).   The amount of butthurt from folks still running ancient shit is crazy.
14:21 <@Dolemite> Today I fielded a question about qmail authentication
14:21 <@_NSAKEY> Dolemite: Kill all of your users
14:23 <@Dolemite> One guy said, "Well, I can setup postfix to allow anon smtp from all of my servers and then smarthost to the authenticated relay."
14:23 <@brimstone> genius
14:23 <@Dolemite> Me:  Your parents are already dead.  [hangs up public phone]
14:24 <@Dolemite> Except for the fact that CyberSecurity is already scanning for open relays and using the NAC to cut them off from all communications.
14:25 <@brimstone> dude just whitelists his tiny subnet
14:25 <@Dolemite> Well if you don't allow for the nessus agent to run *on your box* then you get cut off
14:25 <@brimstone> heh, firewall 127.0.0.1 from 25
14:25 <@brimstone> man, some wacky firewall rules then
14:25 <@Dagmar> That's when you spin up a bunch of bots to email the relevant user with random bits of binhexed data
14:26 <@Dolemite> brimstone: YOUR PARENTS ARE ALREADY DEAD, MOTHER FUCKER
14:26  * Dolemite changes his Teams profile picture to the T-800
14:26 <@brimstone> i worked somewhere where it was unwritten policy to firewall the qualis scanner
14:27 <@Dagmar> I wanted to throw in a rule to drop in a mirror target once a threshold was reached
14:27 <@Dagmar> Netsec was not amused by that
14:27 <@Dagmar> It certainly got me a lot of angry emails from system administrators when I did it at home.  ;)
14:28 <@Dagmar> "How dare you try to exploit my system!"
14:28 <@Dagmar> "I didn't exploit your system, your users did."
14:30 <@NotLarry> So we are talking about renaming a shared mount called "scratch" to "nobackup".  Guess why:)
14:30 <@Dolemite> lol
14:31 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: future user asks, "Oh, it's backed up to North Ontario?"
14:32 <@Dagmar> New Orleans
14:32 <@Dolemite> Flood plain
14:33 <@Dolemite> and voodoo
14:35 <@Dagmar> What the hell
14:59 <@Dagmar> Bah CentOS doesn't carry RHELs security data
15:18 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: looking for the sudo patch?  my centos7 got it fine
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15:21 <@Evilpig> brimstone: I might have written some rules to block the majority of the ports from the qualys scanners
15:21 <@Evilpig> we had an issue with some service getting probed by them that was causing it to crash and I had enough
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16:15 <@NotLarry> ~.
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16:38 <@eryc> the big thing missed
16:38 <@eryc> is that an infusion of 2.9 billion guarantees a clean exit
16:51 <@Dagmar> Looks like the brokerages have realized they're about to be the ones eating the loss
16:51 <@Dagmar> A shame for them.  They probably shouldn't have been allowing people to over-leverage shorts.
16:52 <@Dagmar> Profitting from proper risk management isn't "risk management" if they try to fob their failures off onto someone else's balance sheet
16:53 <@Dagmar> phogg: Also he's not on a Linux machine
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17:25 <@eryc> its fun to wath mangroves disapate
17:26 <@eryc> how much for 400 bare inits
17:30 <@eryc> all the fields are set
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19:15 <@eryc> plan c is avwrage
19:15 <@eryc> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
19:15 < PigBot> Business Plot - Wikipedia (at en.m.wikipedia.org) https://tinyurl.com/yyw5j533
19:41 <@opticron> eryc, are you ok?
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