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03:20 < aestetix> https://greenwald.substack.com/p/how-silicon-valley-in-a-show-of-monopolistic
03:20 < PigBot> How Silicon Valley, in a Show of Monopolistic Force, Destroyed Parler - Glenn Greenwald (at greenwald.substack.com) https://tinyurl.com/yyg5uwjt
03:20 < aestetix> this should be interesting to watch
06:02 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:14  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:22 <@Dolemite> re: article - it's just the chickens coming home to roost.   Republicans typically want to let corporations grow bigger and bigger, looking only at the economic impact, and resist any attempt at regulation...   then they get pissed when those megacorporations make a decision that the R's don't like.
06:22 < aestetix> And I just learned there is a new social network called "MeWe" that they can all go to now
06:22 <@Dolemite> Yeah, MeinSpace
06:23 < aestetix> what's that
06:23 <@Dolemite> The nickname for MeWe
06:23 < aestetix> oh boy
06:23 <@Dolemite> It's an alt-right version of Facebook
06:23 < aestetix> so it's basically what parler was
06:23 <@Dolemite> Parler was more akin to Twitter
06:23 <@Dolemite> MeWe was more like Facebook
06:23 < aestetix> oh god
06:23 < aestetix> so mewe is even more toxic
06:24 <@Dolemite> I guess.   I have no interest in jumping into that cesspool.
06:24 <@Dolemite> But last summer when the move to Parler was all the rage, MeWe was the FB equiv.
06:25 <@Dolemite> I notice that most of the tards posting their "Check Me Out on MeWe" link on Facebook are still on Facebook.
06:35 <@Evilpig> The new one running around facebook is a call to boycott several of the companies listed in the recent stuff, one of which is facebook.  So when it pops up in my circles I'm asking "So you're boycotting facebook by posting on facebook?  Interesting..."
06:35 <@Dolemite> I can't wait to have the opportunity to do the same thing
06:38 < aestetix> so basically
06:38 < aestetix> greenwald spent a long blog post pointing out hypocrisy to people who do not care that they are hypocrites
06:40 <@Evilpig> lol,  so looking for one of those this morning and I see they are all gone.  I doubt these people realized the ridiculousness of it and removed it.  I'm gonna guess on the facebook gestapo in the night
06:41 <@Evilpig> there were at least three of those when I went to bed last night
06:42 < aestetix> so basically
06:42 < aestetix> we're going to wind up with a social network for leftists, and a social network for the alt-right
06:42 < aestetix> both sides getting more and more extreme
06:42 < aestetix> :(
06:43 <@Dolemite> Not really, because I see people declare that they're leaving for a place more friendly...    then they come back, because they actually miss the other side
06:43 <@Dolemite> Maybe we've got all the good jokes
06:44 <@Dolemite> WHOA.   Now that it's dawning, I see white stuff on the grass.
06:45 <@Evilpig> gross!  make sure there isn't some dude still sleeping in your bushes!
06:45 <@Evilpig> why on the grass?  that's just weird.
06:47 <@Dolemite> I don't see any ostriches running around, so it can't be the Ginger
06:51 <@Evilpig> this morning I noticed my arcus is dead.  guess it's been that way for a few weeks?  maybe longer, fuckin' apple.  What are y'all using for weather, ideally with a widget, on android now?  I've been looking at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.lockdown.weather&hl=en_US&gl=US on my tablet
06:51 < PigBot> Today Weather - Widget, Forecast, Radar & Alert - Apps on Google Play (at play.google.com) https://tinyurl.com/y2qmxhyx
06:56 <@Dolemite> I just use Yahoo Weather widget
06:56 <@Dolemite> Been using it for over a decade at this point
07:01 <@Evilpig> does it do more on the widget then just the current temp and immediate forecast?
07:01 <@Evilpig> their pics on the play store don't look like it.  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.weather&hl=en_US&gl=US
07:02 < PigBot> Yahoo Weather - Apps on Google Play (at play.google.com) https://tinyurl.com/y5on5326
07:04 <@Dolemite> Yeah, you tap on it and you get much more detail
07:04 <@Dolemite> I use the widget that has the weather along with the clock
07:04 <@Dolemite> it's pretty much my home screen clock in big numbers, because I ARE OLD AND HALF BLIND
07:07 <@Evilpig> this is the widget from that today weather.  https://photos.app.goo.gl/MsT8X7rmJ3jJQF8R6
07:07 < PigBot> No Title (at photos.app.goo.gl) https://tinyurl.com/yyrob8aj
07:08 < aestetix> Dolemite: do you wear adult diapers yet?
07:08 <@Dolemite> aestetix: No, not yet.  YET.
07:11 <@Dolemite> I suspect that when I get to that point I'll just sit around festering in my own shit and drinking myself to death.
07:27 <@_NSAKEY> To go with Dolemite's point about corporations getting bigger and being unregulated, I pointed out to some altright kids in their own terms (so they'd actually understand), "This is what you get for cucking antitrust laws for decades."
07:28 <@_NSAKEY> Maybe that will help them slowly have a break-through on how their stances have long-term consequences, which they might not like.
08:19 < aestetix> I gotta say, btw
08:20 < aestetix> for the people who keep saying that there is plenty of evidence of election fraud
08:20 < aestetix> Why didn't congress present that evidence when they objected to each state?
08:22 <@Evilpig> because they will only present it to a court, that refuses to take their case because they don't have sufficient evidence
08:23 <@Evilpig> but if the court would hear them, they'd present it
08:23 <@Evilpig> The court should be giving these people copies of Catch-22 and sentences to read it
08:23 < aestetix> why not just make it all public?
08:24 < aestetix> I don't think making something public somehow means it can't also be used in court...
08:51 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: They won't make it public because they don't have any evidence.
08:51 <@_NSAKEY> If they actually had any evidence, it would have been presented in one of any of the dozens of court cases that got dismissed.
08:51 < aestetix> Or just presented to the public
08:51 <@_NSAKEY> One of the cases that was set to go before the Supreme Court got shot down 7-2 on whether they would even hear it.
08:51 < aestetix> Just make a youtube video or something showing it
08:52 < aestetix> trump could have tweeted about the video
08:52 <@_NSAKEY> The 2 dissenters were conservative appointees who wanted to hear the case just so they could shoot it down for being idiotic.
08:52 < aestetix> lol
08:53 <@_NSAKEY> Like their dissent was legalese for "Yes, let's get this smooth-brained trainwreck on the docket so we can take turns pooping all over it"
08:53 <@Dolemite> If presented to the public then there is more time for actual experts to disprove their claims
08:53 <@_NSAKEY> It's just like everything else Trump does, where it's shit-tier social engineering.
08:53 <@Dolemite> Court is often a battle of who can afford the most convincing "experts"
08:54 < aestetix> I say this as someone who hates the far-left..... Trump's ramblings just don't hold up to scrutiny
08:54 <@Dolemite> Kind of how like Trump learned a lot about Covid after catching it, and he'll share what he's learned with us.   One day.
08:54 <@_NSAKEY> Or he'll share his taxes. One day.
08:55 <@_NSAKEY> Did you guys see where even Alex Jones is calling out the Qtards on their bullshit?
08:55 <@Dolemite> Trump's entire strategy for the past several decades has been to make wild claims out of nowhere, and when people start connecting the dots, he makes a newer, wilder claim to distract them from the previous one.
08:55 <@_NSAKEY> I waded into his video site long enough to hear him actually use the term "Qtard," which I just assumed I had made up and nobody else had picked up LOL
08:56 <@Dolemite> I saw reference to Tinfoil Jones calling them out, but I didn't click
08:56 <@_NSAKEY> Just imagine what kind of shitstorm he would have caused to distract us from his coup attempt, if he still had social media
08:56 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, I saw a newsweek article, I think, that linked to a short video.
08:56 <@_NSAKEY> https://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-qanon-rant-viral-infowars-1560394
08:56 < PigBot> Alex Jones' QAnon Rant Watched Over 2 Million Times: 'I'm Sick of It!' (at www.newsweek.com) https://tinyurl.com/yyt7nnc5
08:56 <@_NSAKEY> The rant is quoted there
08:57 <@_NSAKEY> "I will not suffer your Q people after this," Jones said as he pointed directly into the camera. "I knew what you were day one, I know what you are now, and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of all these witches and warlocks and pumpkin popsomes."
08:57 <@Dolemite> Says the man that claimed that school shootings were faked
08:58 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah. When even a seasoned grifter like Alex Jones is calling you out on your bullshit, you've failed at life.
08:59 <@eryc> Coupchella starts friday
08:59 < aestetix> ..... coupchella?
09:00 <@eryc> y'all qaeda festival
09:01 <@_NSAKEY> I'm stealing that
09:19 <@opticron> not Qchella?
09:19 <@_NSAKEY> Ooooooo
09:19 <@_NSAKEY> I like that one too
12:20 <@Evilpig> "biden crime family"
12:28 <@opticron> yes, because *that's* the criminal family
12:47 <@Evilpig> listening to these people in the house debate.  am I completely wrong here but impeachment doesn't mean removal of trump it means bring him trial to answer for a possible crime
12:47 <@Dolemite> Correct
12:47 <@Dolemite> It removes him from the Office of President in terms of a trial, because you would never want to remove the position of President.
12:48 <@Evilpig> so these dipshits saying we shouldn't be impeaching without a trial are just fucking retarded
12:48 <@Dolemite> Qtarded
12:48 <@Dolemite> They are speaking to their base
12:59 < aestetix> Evilpig: I don't actually see what impeaching would do
12:59 < aestetix> There is no way the senate will convict. And biden will be sworn in before the senate can begin
12:59 < aestetix> this is all just political grandstanding
13:00 <@eryc> the senate might convict
13:00 < aestetix> eryc: by which point trump would already be out of office anyways
13:00 <@eryc> several senators already said they'll vote to convict
13:00 < aestetix> eryc: enough for a 2/3 majority?
13:00 <@eryc> there is a proforma session friday
13:00 <@eryc> possibly yea
13:00 < aestetix> eryc: that would mean 25 republican senators would vote to convict
13:01 < aestetix> which I doubt
13:03 <@eryc> 17
13:03 < aestetix> oh damn
13:08 < aestetix> hahah I just saw a good joke
13:08 < aestetix> why don't republicans want to impeach trump?
13:08 < aestetix> because they believe in carrying a baby to full term
13:15 <@Evilpig> aestetix: the impeachment if successful would prevent trump from re-entering public office
13:16 <@Evilpig> getting him out of the way now is a whatever
13:16 <@Evilpig> preventing him from causing future harm is the end goal.  cutting off his post-office benefits would just make me feel happy inside
13:21 < aestetix> Evilpig: what are the chances he'll ever re-enter public office again?
13:22 < aestetix> it will take a generation to forget about trump, he'll be long gone by then
13:24 <@eryc> idk he got a lot of votes
13:24 <@eryc> he will try to run in 2024
13:24 <@eryc> ideally he lost a lot of votes for his coup attempt
13:24 <@Evilpig> it won't take a generation.  he has a very motivated base
13:25 <@eryc> but you would have thought he'd get less votes as it was
13:25 <@Evilpig> the coup didn't lose him any votes, imo.  my super trumper family members doubled down after that
13:25 <@eryc> i think it lost some votes just not from his fanatics
13:25 <@eryc> "the silent majority" may have been affected
14:17 <@Dolemite> I have seen a small percentage in my circle that voted for him twice but have now denounced him
14:17 <@Dolemite> And I do mean SMALL
14:54 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: You're forgetting about the 14th amendment, section 3.
14:55 <@_NSAKEY> And also, setting precedent that this sort of thing isn't ok.
15:00 <@eryc> 4 republicans voted yes so far
15:00 <@eryc> 119 left
15:01 <@_NSAKEY> One of the best parts of the republican wailing was all the talk about not having hearings. I'm over here like "So they could... call themselves... as witnesses?"
15:04 < aestetix> 196 not voting, wow
15:04 < aestetix> or is that not voted yet
15:04 < aestetix> must be not yet voted
15:10 <@_NSAKEY> they've got like 64 or so proxy votes.
15:10 <@_NSAKEY> People quarantining or sick with coronavirus, because 1/6 was a superspreader event.
15:10 <@_NSAKEY> The republicans refused masks when they were locked down like it was an active shooter drill.
15:11 <@_NSAKEY> That's why C-SPAN shows that the time to vote is up, and you have all these people referencing House Res. 8.
15:11 <@_NSAKEY> It was similar last night with the resolution to tell Pence they support him invoking the 25th, but it took longer for all the proxy votes to get in
15:25 <@Mirage> I would have thought more republicans would have voted for impeachment, but then again unlike in the senate, I don't think they don't need to in order for the resolution to pass.
15:31 <@eryc> yea they're protecting themselves from violence
15:42 <@eryc> https://imgur.com/a/wItb7o4
15:42 < PigBot> Imgur: The magic of the Internet (at imgur.com) https://tinyurl.com/y2lf5w8h
16:13 < xray> eryc: wow, that is so messed up.
16:43 <@eryc> https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/13/national-guardsmen-capitol-threats-459002
16:43 < PigBot> National Guardsmen briefed on IED threat to Capitol - POLITICO (at www.politico.com) https://tinyurl.com/y536a3y8
16:43 <@eryc> https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1349449983158845443
16:43 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) https://tinyurl.com/y3wq35r4
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16:59 <@eryc> 1https://youtu.be/JROt6OFzaNQ
16:59 < PigBot> Why Is the Alt-Right So Angry? | The Daily Show - YouTube (at youtu.be) https://tinyurl.com/y5ot43cn
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18:26 <@_NSAKEY> eryc: One of the nazis shown in stock footage looks a lot like this clown https://abovethelaw.com/2019/01/prominent-lawyer-jumps-bail-and-becomes-a-fugitive-may-not-be-a-lawyer-much-longer/
18:26 < PigBot> Prominent Lawyer Jumps Bail And Becomes A Fugitive… May Not Be A Lawyer Much Longer | Above the Law (at abovethelaw.com)
18:26 <@_NSAKEY> more recent article about him https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-proud-boys-lawyer-jason-lee-van-dyke-allegedly-plotted-assassination-of-rival-court-docs-say
18:26 < PigBot> Former ‘Proud Boys’ Lawyer Jason Lee Van Dyke Allegedly Plotted Assassination of Rival, Court Docs Say  (at www.thedailybeast.com) https://tinyurl.com/y4q5hy69
18:27 <@_NSAKEY> lol wow https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/brand-management/proud-boystm-far-right-groups-trademark-could-face-cancellation-legal-experts-claim
18:27 < PigBot> Proud Boys™ – far-right group's trademark could face cancellation, legal experts claim | World Trademark Review (at www.worldtrademarkreview.com)
20:00 <@eryc> https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1349522157618008064
20:00 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) https://tinyurl.com/y5rq4tkl
20:01 <@eryc> https://www.vice.com/en/article/3an7pn/pirate-bay-founder-thinks-parlers-inability-to-stay-online-is-embarrassing
20:01 < PigBot> Pirate Bay Founder Thinks Parler’s Inability to Stay Online Is ‘Embarrassing’ (at www.vice.com) https://tinyurl.com/y6q5mao7
20:02 <@eryc> https://twitter.com/sarahzhang/status/1349433968203083780
20:02 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) https://tinyurl.com/y29xybnm
22:04 <@Dagmar> hehehe
22:52 <@Mirage> https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-fails-people-had-one-job/
22:52 < PigBot> 50 Times People Had One Job And Failed In A Hilarious Way (New Pics) | Bored Panda (at www.boredpanda.com) https://tinyurl.com/y2motgmh
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