--- Log opened Mon Aug 24 00:00:22 2020
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04:38 <@Mirage> Yeah, Jim Carrey doesn't like Trump much at all.  Some of his drawings posted on twitter are funny, and accurate.  https://twitter.com/JimCarrey
04:38 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5jhy4w2
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05:26 <@Mirage> Started watching this last night and finished it this morning.  Starts off slow, but I really liked it.  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4477292/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
05:26 < PigBot> Cosmos (2019) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) http://tinyurl.com/y2zdcapw
05:40 <@Mirage> amusing.. https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/23/danbury-connecticut-john-oliver-last-week-tonight-sewage-plant-name/
05:40 < PigBot> Danbury, CT Fires Back at John Oliver, Names Sewage Plant After Him (at www.tmz.com) http://tinyurl.com/y4a32fzs
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05:50 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
05:52 <@lastchild> Bah humbug! I hate that I cant sleep past 0500 on my day off
05:58 <@Dolemite> Story of my life
05:58 <@Dolemite> Though I've found that I can successfully go back for a nap after a couple of hours
05:59 <@Dolemite> My bladder is what has decided to hate me in recent years.    I pee right before going to bed, and BAM, 6 hours later it's like, "Wake up, mother fucker!"
06:00 <@lastchild> upside is I have gotten a lot of my media copied onto the new drives to create a balance
06:01 <@lastchild> yeah i get that too and it's more difficult to fall back asleep after that task
06:01 <@Dolemite> If it would wake me up after 4 hours, it would be easy to go back to sleep
06:02 <@Dolemite> But nope, it has worked out the time that just screws overy my ability to go right back to sleep
06:03 <@Dolemite> On another note, printed off some figurines for the kiddos this weekend.    Daughter has already painted her and son's is still a work in progress.
06:03 <@Dolemite> So that has gotten the kids to take an interest in how 3d printing works
06:04 <@lastchild> I had that problem yesterday and found myself nodding most of they day cause you know how much excitement there is in the noc on a move-in weekend
06:05 <@lastchild> I'd love to get a 3d but reasons (wife)
06:05 <@Dolemite> Yeah and with social distancing you can't just walk across the hall to chit chat
06:05 <@Dolemite> lastchild: Show her some youtube videos on 3d printing cookie cutters, perhaps?
06:06 <@Dolemite> The one I got - the Creality Ender 3 - is apparently the bee's knees among the professional bakers crowd, mainly for making custom shape cookie cutters.
06:07 <@Dolemite> It's right at that sweet spot of inexpensive+reliable
06:07 <@Dolemite> And Thingiverse has quite a few upgrades for it that you can print
06:07 <@lastchild> yeah well the guy that was in the tech hub makes Tit-us look social and i was working with Walker sooo thank Kahless for Plex
06:08 <@Dolemite> I need to watch last night's Yellowstone
06:08 <@Dolemite> Have you been watching that?
06:09 <@lastchild> no It's on the ;ist to put in the pipe, but I've been upgrading all my SD movies to HD or better
06:10 <@lastchild> queue Piggy into fussing bout my leeching
06:10 <@Dolemite> dooooooooooood
06:11 <@lastchild> i know i know
06:11 <@Dolemite> Kevin Fucking Costner
06:11 <@Dolemite> In a TV series
06:11 <@Dolemite> And honestly, it's like he has been working to play this role his whole life
06:12 <@lastchild> I considered him meh after waterworld so... but i've heard good things
06:12 <@lastchild> did you catch any of DCFandome this weekend?
06:12 <@Dolemite> Nope
06:13 <@lastchild> WW84 is gonna be epic, AND Capaldi will be in the ne Suicide Squad
06:14 <@lastchild> new*
06:14 <@lastchild> lots of col stuff coming up for DC
06:14 <@lastchild> grrr cool*
06:14 <@Dolemite> I was either binge watching The New Legend of Monkey, playing games - including the Fuck Apple Tournament on Fortnite, or dealing with my learning experiences on 3d printing and determining the best orientation to print so that you have the least amount of supports to remove.
06:15 <@Dolemite> I have a good sized pile of failed prints or broken pieces.
06:15 <@Mirage> Dolemite: my reason for being up so early is a common one...cats being assholes.
06:15 <@Dolemite> Cats are ALWAYS assholes, though
06:15 <@lastchild> too bad you can't re-use the medium
06:15 <@Dolemite> lastchild: That's why I'm glad it's so cheap
06:16 <@lastchild> I blame the egyptians for asshole cats
06:16 <@Mirage> no, no, no...everything is the left-wing democrats fault, haven't you heard?
06:17  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:17 <@Dolemite> Dummycrats made cats act like assholes!
06:17 <@lastchild> my main reason(to start out) for getting a 3d is making wall hangers for my 8-bit systems
06:17 < aestetix> Mirage: I keep trying to get some far-left people I know in the bay area to take a trip to the south
06:18 < aestetix> There really should be a red/blue state exchange program for students
06:18 <@Mirage> Heh, Jeep e-bike.. https://www.engadget.com/google-has-started-shipping-its-monster-allterrain-ebike-071105094.html
06:18 < PigBot> Jeep's monster all-terrain e-bike will start shipping in September | Engadget (at www.engadget.com) http://tinyurl.com/yypktkop
06:19 <@lastchild> Mirage: hard pass on anything branded Jeep
06:19 <@Mirage> Claims 30-60 mile range depending on terrain.  That's fairly impresive.
06:19 <@Mirage> Of course it also costs as much as a used car
06:19 <@lastchild> exception is AMC era
06:19 <@Mirage> Well, let's qualify that... a used car I would buy
06:20 < aestetix> Either that exchange idea would result in both sides understnding the other a bit more.... or death
06:21 <@Dolemite> I'd rather get a kit to convert a real mountain bike into an ebike.
06:21 <@Dolemite> And save a few grand in the process
06:21 < aestetix> what is an e-bike
06:21 <@Dolemite> electric bike
06:21 <@Mirage> aestetix: They would either argue incessently or just sit in opposite corners ignoring one another
06:21 < aestetix> ..... but bikes are powered by your feet
06:22 < aestetix> or do you mean a motorcycle
06:22 <@Mirage> mopeds aren't...
06:22 <@Dolemite> aestetix: No, I mean a bicycle with electric assist
06:22 < aestetix> electric assist?
06:22 <@Dolemite> They're becoming quite popular for commuting.
06:22 < aestetix> I've never heard of that
06:22 < aestetix> For higher gears?
06:23 <@Dolemite> Yeah, like if you need to go up a hill you can flip a button and the direct drive gears kick in.
06:23 <@Dolemite> Or if you're a lazy fuck like me, you could just have it push you all the time
06:23 < aestetix> Why not just flip into the lowest gear and pedal a bunch
06:23 <@Dolemite> But your mileage veries based on how much assist you use
06:23 <@lastchild> https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/23/kellyanne-conway-trump-adviser-leave-white-house-e/
06:23 < PigBot> Kellyanne Conway, Trump adviser, to leave White House at end of month - Washington Times (at www.washingtontimes.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6ybohd8
06:23 <@Dolemite> aestetix: It has extended the range for a lot of bike commuters
06:23 <@lastchild> fiile under "will we notice"
06:24 < aestetix> Dolemite: well I mean if it gets people to stop using cars, I'm all for it
06:24 <@Mirage> lastchild: seen it and ignored it.
06:24 <@Dolemite> aestetix: It has had a pretty good impact on urban car ownership
06:24 <@Dolemite> Imagine having one in hilly San Francisco.
06:25 < aestetix> hehe
06:25 <@lastchild> Mirage: maybe she'll re-unite will Butthead for an encore show. Beavis and Butthead Fucked America"
06:25 < aestetix> there are parts of san francisco where the hills are so steep the sidewalk turns into steps
06:25 <@Dolemite> NYC is flat, but still, I'm sure there are quite a few there
06:25 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Yep, I've wandered into those areas before
06:25 < aestetix> And if you're going up one of those hills on a city bus, you can just feel the gravity
06:26 <@Dolemite> Hell I needed a safety harness just to walk on the sidewalk
06:27 < aestetix> oh wow
06:27 < aestetix> https://www.insider.com/tiktok-trend-shows-people-pretending-to-be-holocaust-victims-heaven-2020-8
06:27 < PigBot> TikTok creators playing dead Holocaust victims accused of 'trauma porn' - Insider (at www.insider.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5gx9ph8
06:27 < aestetix> this is fucked up
06:28 <@Dolemite> They should just rename it TikToxic
07:00 <@Mirage> I just love how this: https://tennesseestar.com/2020/08/15/rutherford-county-schools-tell-parents-not-to-monitor-their-childs-virtual-classrooms/
07:00 < PigBot> Rutherford County Schools Tell Parents Not to Monitor Their Child’s Virtual Classrooms - Tennessee Star (at tennesseestar.com) http://tinyurl.com/y2dsmovo
07:01 <@Mirage> Turns into this w/ when the propaganda/fear machine gets it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQX0EtQADeU
07:01  * Mirage smacks pigbot
07:01 <@Mirage> ^ "Parents Asked To Ignore Kids Online Classes As Far left Indoctrinates Kids"
07:02 < PigBot> Parents Asked To Ignore Kids Online Classes As Far left Indoctrinates Kids - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/yyn6lhpj
07:02 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Rutherford County schools being turned into indoctrinated lefties...    uh huh
07:02 <@Mirage> So my question to the parents in here...how many schools do you know of that allow parents to attend a child's a class whenever they feel like it?
07:03 <@Mirage> I'm pretty sure the answer to that is pretty much none, and if they do allow it, then it has to be approved/scheduled...not just whenever they feel like it.
07:05 <@Dolemite> In order to find enough teachers for virtual learning, Knox County had to outsource...   so the outsourcing company is called Florida Virtual Schools, and they have this crazy waiver that the school board had to agree to in the contract, saying that they wouldn't sue for negligence - including INTENTIONAL negligence.   The State of TN doesn't allow such waivers to be upheld, so they signed it...   but
07:05 <@Dolemite> some of the wording in these virtual school contracts is just crazy
07:06 <@Mirage> I'm sure that the main concerns are parents or someone else at home undermining the teacher and disrupting the class.
07:09 <@Dolemite> So according to TimCast dude, Social Justice is a fringe white supremacist policy
07:09 <@Dolemite> This is why I can't take these vloggers seriously
07:09 <@Mirage> Yeah...he's a real nutcase
07:09 <@Dolemite> I think aestetix loves him, though
07:10 <@Mirage> But it's linked from thedonald, so it has to be true!  Anything contradictory, like the truth, is just an attempt to undermine Trump.
07:56 < aestetix> Dolemite: honestly, I think Tim has gone kind of nuts over the last two years
07:56 < aestetix> I rarely watch him anymore.
07:57 < aestetix> Every video he posts is about why the left is bad.
07:57 < aestetix> For a while I would watch like the first minute of his videos, where I would get all I needed, and then the last 9 minutes which is just him ranting, I skipped
07:58 < aestetix> But then it got so repetitive it wasn't worth watching anymore
07:58 <@Mirage> aestetix: sounds about like my normal take on the evening news
07:59 < aestetix> Well the thing is
07:59 < aestetix> Tim used to actually go to events and do reporting live
08:00 < aestetix> But all he does now is read the news and complain about it from his home
08:27 <@Dolemite> Kind of like that uncle we all hate to see at Thanksgiving
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08:33 <@dc0de> g'mernin all
08:33 <@Dolemite> mr0ning!
08:40 < dasunt> G'morning.
08:49 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Looks like I need ~80 more pickets to finish up.  The worst part of it is that the gas powered auger doesn't like the plethora of gravel/chat in the hard clay, so I've been having to mostly dig the post holes by hand.
08:51 <@Mirage> I just home that this Lowes has the pickets, otherwise it'll be another scavenger hunt trying to get supplies.  To get what I've got right now took going to 5 different Lowes/Home Depot locations.
08:51 <@Evilpig> Mirage: this is where you know you've screwed up by not having kids
08:51 <@Mirage> er, s/home/hope/
08:52 <@Dolemite> Ha!   As if I could get my kids to do any hard labor in the yard.
08:52 <@Evilpig> getting out there with the post hole diggers is clearly a job for a teenager
08:52 < dasunt> Isn't this a job for day laborers?
08:52 <@Evilpig> I clearly remember having to do that on my grandparents farm out in crittenden
08:52 <@Dolemite> My son will take an axe to some roots, but ask him to dig a hole and his body no longer has strength or coordination.
08:52 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I'd just wind up being reported for child abuse, slavery, and whatever the hell else ppl could come up with for actually making any kid I had do work
08:54 <@Mirage> I suggested to the neighbor who shares this fence that her 15 year old son could come help and she laughed
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09:25 <@Mirage> Heh.  Chatting with my stepmother, apparently dad is getting a colonoscopy this morning.  I told her, "When he gets out ask him if the doctor at least bought him some flowers or offered to buy dinner."
09:40 <@Evilpig> #1 reason why the usa is failing at education.  First grader's school is having a month long reading program where they want the kids to read at least 20 minutes a day.
09:41 <@Evilpig> if the student cannot read, they say it counts if you have them open a book and look at the pictures for 20 minutes
09:43 <@lastchild> wait what?!?
09:44 <@Evilpig> which part?  looking at pictures or can't fuckin' read?
09:44 <@Evilpig> all no child left behind has done has effectively dumbed down every other kid to the level of the idiots
09:44 <@lastchild> Well the Sec. of Edu. has bookshelves with no books on the as presented in the last zoom I saw of her.
09:45 <@lastchild> The picture part...assinine
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11:06 <@Mirage> Evilpig: As short as 1st grade level books are I'd think a book a day or 3 every 2 days.
11:10 <@Mirage> When I was in 2nd grade I changed schools 4 times.  The first 2 transfers honored the number of books I'd read from the previous school's records, but the last one didn't.  I'm pretty sure the number was around or over 300 before that last transfer, which was after spring break in March.  By the end of the school year there I'd still managed to read enough books to get the highest reading award.
11:11 <@Mirage> And those weren't 2nd grade level books either.   According to the SRA tests from 1st grade, at that time I was reading on a 5th grade level.
11:17 <@Mirage> Yeah, this'll last until a few days or a week after Labor Day weekend.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html
11:17 < PigBot> US coronavirus: Deaths have dropped below 1,000 a day as summer surge tails off - CNN (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/y3fbw2uj
11:18 <@Mirage> Anyone watching the RNC stuff right now?  WTF is this guy talking right now wearing?!
11:18 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-mhiUCPOk
11:18 < PigBot> Live: Republican National Convention Officially Nominates Trump | NBC News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/yxdd4qny
11:19 <@Mirage> Had to put headphones on because the wife couldn't stand listening to the stream.
11:29 <@Dolemite> Oh, I almost forgot.   Today is my first day of accruing 4 weeks of vacation per year that I rarely ever use.
11:30 <@Dolemite> Wait, the RNC is doing their convention in the middle of the day?
11:31 <@Mirage> Dolemite: yeah..I switched off it a few minutes ago while they were going through all the state party reps confirming their support of his official nomination
11:32 <@Mirage> Supposedly instead of ~2000 delegates they only have ~300 and are....wait for it....*social distancing*..
11:32 <@Dolemite> Well, in all honesty, it would be akin to watching a sermon at Jonestown
11:33 <@Mirage> If they started passing out Kool Aide I'd definitely tune back in.
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11:44 <@Mirage> Hmm.. hadn't seen this aggregator before.  https://newsvoice.com
11:44 < PigBot> Newsvoice: Unbiased News (at newsvoice.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5boslnw
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12:39 <@Evilpig> Mirage: damn!  now there's an asshole.  https://newsvoice.com/i/4950551
12:39 < PigBot> Firefighter’s wallet stolen, bank account emptied during Santa Cruz blaze battle (at newsvoice.com) http://tinyurl.com/y674g7nh
12:39 <@Evilpig> of course it'll likely end up being the dude's friend or something.  still cold
13:33 < aestetix> longtime no corydon
13:35 <@Evilpig> we broke his echo chamber
13:50 <@Mirage> Evilpig: yeah, I saw that
14:03 <@Evilpig> Dolemite, Dagmar, Mirage: Today was the today.
14:03 <@Evilpig> Gourija Menon was just promoted to director
14:03 <@Mirage> Gourija was the better of the developers.  She wasn't a total idiot
14:04 <@Evilpig> as a manager she's a failure
14:04 <@Evilpig> no sense of anything going on, projects constantly late
14:04 <@Mirage> I can see that...she was always timid as a mouse
14:04 <@Evilpig> I hit her up last week to change the profile on a vip to drop some old ciphers and she wouldn't let me change it because they had a project due at the end of the month so they couldn't spare 30 sec to verify that it didn't break 
14:05 <@Evilpig> I said a few weeks ago when they announced the new inclusive workforce review board that she was going to get promoted to fill the numbers for minority and women in management.
14:05 <@Evilpig> 100% correct
14:05 <@Mirage> She never pulled that shit with me because most of the time it was the other way around..them wanting me to drop what I was doing to help them right quick
14:07 <@Mirage> Evilpig: of course...why hire the best person for the job, EOE and all that, when you can hire the minority or female to make your political numbers look better
14:14 <@Dolemite> I don't think I ever met Gourija
14:15 <@Dolemite> Well, there went about 5 hours of my life.   The migrations I did a little over a week ago had one last total hackjob of a script written by someone long gone.   The purpose?   To emulate the old majordomo commands within mailman.
14:16 <@Dolemite> But since rhel8 actually has postfix properly run scripts as nobody instead of postfix, they were failing.
14:16 <@Dolemite> In the end I just had to allow any login on the box (which, honestly, is just the admins) to sudo to that exact script without password.   Hated to do that, but sticky bit apparently doesn't work correctly from user nobody.
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17:53 <@eryc> newsvoice is overrun with statists
17:54 <@eryc> its really sad to see people on reddit support hitting someone with a brick
17:55 <@eryc> literally every opinion on the internet is worthless
17:56 <@eryc> i think we need to turn off everyone's internet for 6 months of healing
17:57 <@eryc> viva enduro
18:07 <@Evilpig> turn off their internet, leave mine.  I need my tv fix. ;)
18:08 <@Evilpig> post something to social media that isn't a pet picture or a stupid music video, 12 hours no internet for you.
18:19 <@eryc> if there was a superpac that offlined people whould that be protected under the first amendment
18:20 <@eryc> has anyone seen how quick some robots disengage
18:22 <@eryc> i can take any of these Gen Z kids and ask them to make the world better and they have nothing
18:23 <@eryc> not only nothing, they are ashamed and have nothing
18:25 <@eryc> the stream of /dev/urandom has not produced better people
18:29 <@Dagmar> Hey I like seeing his little dog
18:29 <@Dagmar> It's cute
18:30 <@Dagmar> Pretty sure it could use some brushy-brushy time
18:30 <@Dagmar> :)
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