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06:02 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:06  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:38 <@Dolemite> I gotta say, this whole kerfuffle between Epic Games/Fortnite and Apple is long overdue.   Also, their video definitely has some balls to it.
06:38 <@Dolemite> Are you familiar with it, aestetix?
06:40 < aestetix> I just saw something about it
06:40 < aestetix> I have not seen the video
06:40 < aestetix> link?
06:41 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Mexf-lT-8&feature=emb_logo
06:41 < PigBot> Free Fortnite - Official "1984" Cinematic Short - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/yyyvcshm
06:41 < aestetix> oh wow
06:42 <@Dolemite> Pretty much shot for shot of the same video that launched the "Apple Revolution"
06:42 < aestetix> right
06:42 < aestetix> that is obvious in the first second
06:42 <@Dolemite> Although I had to explain it to my kid and his friends that we play with
06:43 < aestetix> yeah, apple was the underdog for decades
06:45 <@Dolemite> But yeah, their walled garden for apps is ridiculous.  30% cut is more like mob extortion.
06:48 < aestetix> what do you expect from the company that has a $1000 monitor stand, and dongles for everything
06:49 <@Dolemite> Oh, I expect no less, which is why I said it was long overdue
06:50 <@Dolemite> Of course, they've also added Google to the battle, now, but Android has the ability to connect to alternate app stores already
06:50 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y04zz5g1_08
06:50 < PigBot> It's A Trap!!! A Lawyer Explains Epic's Crazy Apple/Fortnite Lawsuit (VL286) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5wpfw4v
07:09 <@Dolemite> So lawyer dude is right in that the law is on Apple's side
07:10 <@Dolemite> I'm just looking at the positive aspect of the whole thing educating consumers on just how unfair these walled garden ecosystems are
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08:10 <@_NSAKEY> Dolemite: Google did the same thing.
08:11 <@Dolemite> yes, although that case would have less merit, since Google does allow for sideloading apps through another store
08:11 <@Dolemite> but they are equally extortionate within their official app store
08:15 <@Dagmar> Unfair?
08:15 <@Dagmar> They're competing.  Price changes are happening, albeit slowly
08:16 <@Dagmar> No one expects Gamestop to sell the games they carry without taking a cut themselves
08:20 <@Dagmar> Or literally _any_ retail outlet for that matter.
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10:02 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fXuwLS4k-o
10:02 < PigBot> FUNNY DETENTION SLIPS FROM REAL KIDS (2020) | 40 SCHOOL FAILS | Alonzo Lerone - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6jd5tnh
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10:18 <@Mirage> OMG, his shirt is hilarious in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7RrIJC6Vc
10:18 < PigBot> DUMBEST THINGS WE DID AS KIDS PT 3 | Alonzo Lerone - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/yxsqoc3j
10:22 <@Evilpig> i'd wear that shirt
10:39 <@Dolemite> lol
10:40 <@Dagmar> Someone needs to make one that's a three-way with Pooh
10:54 <@Mirage> What's weird to me is that, counter to expectations, the water in a 3-tier flower pot fountain that I threw together and have out on the back porch stays ~80 degrees even when it's 100+ outside.
10:56 <@Mirage> The only explaination I have is that, as I learned in earth science waaaaay back when, "Evaporation is a cooling process", though it doesn't evaporate down and need to be topped off nearly as often as I'd have expected w/ such a low water capacity.
11:20 <@Dagmar> The clay of the pots is a very dense sink for the heat
11:23 <@Dagmar> So... it's partially shaded, and spends probably half it's day just soaking up heat into the pot which was allowed to cool overnight
11:23 <@Dagmar> Heat sinks are cool like that
11:51 <@Mirage> It's not like it's sealed...the water is mostly open to the air.  The pump isn't one of those typical small fountain ones either, it's a spare for my smaller saltwater tank that runs 50-70gph...the capacity for this fountain can't be more than 3-4 gallons.
11:55 <@Evilpig> I said I was gonna set up some drip irrigation this summer for the shit on the balcony but I just couldn't be bothered.  ash ended up planting some shit now I have to water it all daily as she's lost interest
12:21 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Unless the water can actually gain enough energy to evaporate, it's not going anywhere by virtue of anything but Brownian motion
12:22 <@Dagmar> Water being _circulated_ is going to be rather tricky to get heated up that much
12:30 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you shouldn't talk about brownian anything.  They're still camping out down at the capital building demanding something or other
12:30 <@Mirage> lol
12:30 <@Dagmar> They're being kinda dumb, on both sides
12:30 <@Dagmar> Making it a felony is equally stupid
12:31 <@Dagmar> But hey, this is Nashville
12:31 <@Dagmar> Stupid is apparently a cash crop or something
12:32 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I don't know as I would classify 3-4 gallons being pumped from a lower tank to an upper tier and falling down via gravity as brownian motion.   I think of that more in terms of the sealed container with a turbine in it being placed in the sun and then the turbine starts spinning.
12:32 <@Dagmar> Is it spraying the fucking water in the air?
12:32 <@Dagmar> Your'e continuously mixing the water
12:33 <@Dagmar> It's causing temperature stability
12:33 <@Dagmar> Instead of the sun only needing to heat the water on the surface until it tries to escape, as that water warms it mixes with the rest of water and cools right back down
12:34 <@Dagmar> If you turned off the pump, it would start evaporating like you expect
12:39 <@Evilpig> network security is looking to DoS some shit internally. Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6246R CPU @ 3.40GHz (x64) 3400.000 MHz
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12:59 <@Mirage> Heh, just point a GSA at the target and don't implement any limits.
13:08 <@Dagmar> I don't know why they'd need special hardware to do that
13:08 <@Dagmar> They've already shown that it takes them most of a day to figure it out when the nameserver does it
13:08 <@Dagmar> *ahem*
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14:28 <@Mirage> Dolemite: get your plague results yet?
14:37 <@Evilpig> he's been quarantined for our protection
18:12 <@Dagmar> We already established he has enough time to drywall over the daughter's door
18:13 <@Dagmar> Today's short-term picks... ALGO, LINK, OMG
18:14 <@Dagmar> That's in reverse order, by the way
18:15 <@Dagmar> I expect that at just barely $2 that OMG will go up by at least 25% in the next week
18:15 <@Dagmar> ...which won't be real hard.
18:16 <@Dagmar> It's not as heavily "asian" as ALGO and LINK being that it's largely Taiwanese, but it's so small only about $170k going into that will raise it by 25%
19:30 <@Mirage> https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/politics/california-federal-court-second-amendment-high-capacity-magazines/index.html
19:30 < PigBot> Federal court strikes down California's ban on high-capacity magazines - CNNPolitics (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/y2pn2rmb
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23:53 <@Dagmar> Finally.
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