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05:51 <@Mirage> Evilpig: This should bring back some memories.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z04lXKvqAtg
05:51 < PigBot> ARE ROACHES REALLY THAT BAD?? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5ht9bw9
06:09 <@Dolemite> dammit dammit dammit.   Stupid low battery beep on one of the 5,298 fire alarms my wife has made me put up in the house.
06:09 <@Dolemite> oh, an
06:09 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:36  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:40 <@Dolemite> 11 minutes to launch of Perseverance
06:41 <@Dolemite> Was wondering if Isaias was going to mess with it
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06:47 <@Dolemite> Hrmm, from the TV video the tropical storm apparently has sucked all the clouds toward it, because nothing but blue skies at Kennedy
06:49 <@Evilpig> Mirage: blech
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07:28 < DrArkaneX> everyone watch the mars 2020 launch?
07:28 <@Dolemite> I did
07:28 < DrArkaneX> man, it hit Mach 1 quick didn't it
07:28 <@Dolemite> 0-14,000 MPH in under 6 minutes.
07:29 <@Dolemite> But yeah, it hit Mach 1 super fast
07:29 <@Dolemite> And you could see the air ripple around it when it happened
07:29 < DrArkaneX> soon as it broke the sound barrier, around the fairing just went nuts
07:30 < DrArkaneX> rover is like 2 metric tons..  i think that rocket is capable of lifting 100 tons to LEO, this was on a mars trip so.. it busted out of there quick
07:31 < DrArkaneX> i think it's carrying an extra payload that we don't know about and that's classified
07:31 <@Dolemite> Man, I miss hanging out at my grandparents place.   Well, I miss my grandparents, too.   Especially Grandpa Jackson.   They lived in Titusville and I'd go spend a few weeks in the summer with them.   He took me to Jetty Park for a launch, once...   and for some others I could feel the ground rumble standing out in their back yard watching the shuttle take off.
07:32 < DrArkaneX> nice, i still wanna see a spacex launch and maybe a landing
07:32 <@Dolemite> Jetty Park is pretty good spot for watching
07:32 < DrArkaneX> yea, my mom used to go there when she lived in florida
07:33 <@Dolemite> I did some contract work at Port of Canaveral back in the 1990s, which is right next to Jetty Park.   You could see the crawler taking the shuttle to the pad from there.   Well, you couldn't see the crawler, but you could see the shuttle sticking up.
07:33 < DrArkaneX> i went from gentoo to arch on my system when i upgraded it and now i'm back to gentoo.. i really missed gentoo
07:33 <@Dolemite> Lots of space photo people will camp in the campground there at the park
07:34 < DrArkaneX> big difference from 4 core 4 threads to 6 cores 12 threads... :D
07:35 < DrArkaneX> compiling firefox on 4 cores 1 thread, 2 hours.. 6 cores 12 threads, 27 minutes.. lol
07:35 <@Dolemite> Heh, compiling.   I left those days long ago.
07:36 < DrArkaneX> windows guy now huh?  :d
07:36 <@Dolemite> Nope, just package guy.
07:37 < DrArkaneX> lazy beardless admin... :D
07:37 <@lastchild> Ther goes Dolemite, bragging about his package
07:37 < DrArkaneX> ahhahaa
07:38 < DrArkaneX> and management of said package
07:38 <@lastchild> indeed
07:38 < DrArkaneX> puts the d in dpkg
07:39 <@lastchild> if you use apt, it's like it's someone else's delivery
07:39 <@lastchild> and I'm out of puns
07:40 < DrArkaneX> Dole is 'apt' to use package management, to save time for his micro brewery experiments
07:41 < DrArkaneX> Dolemite: You're just a source distro peasant...
07:44 < DrArkaneX> i like arch, it's like gentoo without the compilation, sorta..  I was just having issues with a few things and it was just too much
07:44 <@Dolemite> Well I did many a "build world" under FreeBSD, years ago
07:45 <@Dolemite> But the hardware is so fast these days that you really don't need optimized versions of EVERYTHING
07:45 < DrArkaneX> oh yea, def.  FreeBSD has a place in my heart..
07:46 < DrArkaneX> "I don't care if my kernel is 15mb and i have about 2 gb of modules, i've got plenty of space"
07:46 < DrArkaneX> yer getting old Dole..
07:48 < DrArkaneX> im not happy about turning 50 this sept...  :D  i'm fighting it..
07:48 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm right behind you in November
07:48 <@Dolemite> My wife turned the dial this June
07:48 < DrArkaneX> nioce...
07:49 < DrArkaneX> i messed up my fuel rail on my car yesterday so i gotta get a new one..
07:50 < DrArkaneX> i'm not trusting it.  i don't want that thing catching fire running down the road.. :)
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08:16 <@Evilpig> do not argue with conspiracy theorists
08:16 <@Evilpig> do not argue with conspiracy theorists
08:16 <@Evilpig> do not argue with conspiracy theorists
08:17 <@Evilpig> these people and the supposed doctors of america or whatever. good lord
08:18 <@Mirage> Dolemite: One of the cool things when I was station in Orlando back in the early 90's was that when it was REALLY clear you could see the the vapor trail from shuttle launches.
08:21 <@Mirage> Evilpig: yeah..
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08:22 <@Mirage> sshhhh...he's back
08:28 < dc0de> totally...
08:28 < dc0de> like I couldn't find logs of this chat elsewhere... hehe
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08:35 <@Mirage> I encountered a rarity a couple days ago, at least around here...a conscientious craigslist seller.   He'd listed a jack he bought from Harbor Freight that I figured I could use.  When I got to his place to check it out and possibly get it he informed me that he'd decided to pull it out of the box and test it since he hadn't used it in a while and discovered that it wasn't working properly and therefore counldn't/wouldn't sell it to someone.
08:36 < DrArkaneX> nice..
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08:36 < DrArkaneX> well, he COULD sell it to you for a cheaper price knowing it didn't work.. :)
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08:36 <@Mirage> It was one of the "farm jacks" that you see mounted on the hood of a lot of jeeps
08:37 < DrArkaneX> like an arm jack?
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08:38 <@Mirage> DrArkaneX: Actually he said that if I really wanted it and was willing to try to fix it that I could just have it..but he also had the sales receipt and thought that he might be able to return it and get his money back since it wasn't really that old and was clearly broken.
08:38 < DrArkaneX> https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/265x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/0/6/06530_W3.jpg
08:38 < PigBot> None (at shop.harborfreight.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5uwehnn
08:38 < DrArkaneX> i need to get a couple of those.. those come in handy
08:38 <@Mirage> It was this one.. https://www.harborfreight.com/42-inch-3-1-2-half-ton-farm-jack-6530.html
08:38 < PigBot> 42 in. Off-Road Farm Jack (at www.harborfreight.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9g55xhf
08:39 < DrArkaneX> $60 bucks, not a bad price
08:39 <@Mirage> If it works.
08:39 < DrArkaneX> right, only way those things don't work is if they're left out in the rain and rust gets in the mechanism
08:40 <@Mirage> He said he'd only used his a couple of times to pull some shrub stumps out of his flower beds.
08:40 <@opticron> even then they still work
08:40 <@opticron> just need some lube
08:40 < DrArkaneX> spray the hell out of it with pb blaster and get ta jackin
08:40 <@opticron> I revived one in about 10 minutes with some wd-40
08:40 <@opticron> yep
08:40 < DrArkaneX> this chat is sounding a bit crazy.. :D
08:41 <@opticron> maybe knock it with a hammer a couple times
08:41 <@Mirage> This one was pristine and still in the box, but would bind up when trying to jack it, then after a few cranks would pop loudly and just drop.   Mind you this is with no load on it.
08:41 <@opticron> ...
08:41 <@opticron> yeah, just needs some lube
08:42 < DrArkaneX> well, the farm jack's are supposed to have a load on them, without a load, they could pop out
08:42 <@opticron> if one of the pins gets stuck out, it'll do that
08:42 < DrArkaneX> the farm jack's i've used without a load were always squirrely
08:43 < DrArkaneX> i used two of them to adjust a 2 ton tiny home
08:44 < DrArkaneX> i'd just put some wheel grease on the pin and mechanism and roll with it
08:48 <@Evilpig> Mirage: was that one of the recalled jacks from harbor freight by chance?
08:51 < DrArkaneX> not seeing any recalls on any harbor freight jacks, just jack stands
08:53 <@Evilpig> maybe that was what I'm remembering
08:54 <@Evilpig> https://www.motortrend.com/news/harbor-freight-jack-stand-recall-safety-tips/
08:54 <@Evilpig> it was.  you're correct
08:55 < DrArkaneX> https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls?combine=harbor+freight
08:55 <@Evilpig> weird.  pigbot is all MIA but here
08:56 < DrArkaneX> there are just somethings i won't buy at harbor freight.. lol
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08:56 < DrArkaneX> wonder if the .gov wigged it out.. :D
08:57 <@Evilpig> it shouldn't have.  it was still logging the hits but it wasn't trying to look them up for some reason
08:58 <@Evilpig> let's see.  https://www.motortrend.com/news/harbor-freight-jack-stand-recall-safety-tips/
08:58 < PigBot> Harbor Freight Jack Stand Recall and Safe Jacking Techniques (at www.motortrend.com) http://tinyurl.com/yypn4nx4
08:58 <@Evilpig> seems happy now
09:23 <@Mirage> Harbor Freight is good for things that are nigh impossible to fuck up making or for cheap tools you'll only need to use a couple times.
09:24 <@Mirage> Tarps, ropes, chains, casters, rollers, air lines, welding supplies, etc..all fine. Most hand tools and power tools...buyer beware
09:27 <@opticron> especially battery operated tools
09:27 <@opticron> from HF, they're disposable
09:27 <@opticron> and one time use
09:27 <@Evilpig> lol
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10:28 <@lastchild> Their Pelican knock off gun cases are great and the dry boxes are decent for th price.  Depends on the application regarding the hand tools.
10:30 <@Mirage> lol..was just checking my sendmail logs and spotted this rejected email FROM address:  "UnlockExplosivePenisGrowth@snoringsolution.buzz"
10:31 <@lastchild> because snoring and penis growth are related. lol
10:31 < DrArkaneX> does your penis snore?  Unlock its explosive potential
10:38 <@Evilpig> Mirage: riddle me this.  rsyslog on server a and server b.  server a and b are in different data centers and shouldn't know about each other.  if I restart rsyslog on server b, server a stops recording events.  if I then restart rsyslog on server a, server b stops recording events.
10:39 <@Evilpig> the only thing they should have in common are mount points and user configs because they are in a failover load balancer config
10:39 <@Mirage> Are you sure that someone doesn't have each configured to log to the other?  That's sure what it sounds like.
10:40 <@Evilpig> I just figured it out
10:40 <@Evilpig> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
10:40 < DrArkaneX> https://www.blogscanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/dvd_rewinder_gr.jpg
10:40 < PigBot> None (at www.blogscanada.ca)
10:40 <@Mirage> dvd rewinder huh?
10:40 <@Evilpig> these are set for sftp.  the sftp directive is establishing a log socket at /sftp/user/dev/log
10:41 <@Evilpig>  /sftp is shared between the two
10:41 <@Mirage> DrArkaneX: what I need is an 8-track rewinder
10:42 < DrArkaneX> :D
10:43 < DrArkaneX> ah crap, static fire of SN-5 aborted and are now detanking  :(
10:46 < DrArkaneX> and they brieflyu lost contact with Perseverence, they got a lock on it again
10:47 <@Mirage> which feed are you watching?
10:47 < DrArkaneX> i'm watching everyday astronaut
10:47 < DrArkaneX> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-rVsUWJtmU
10:47 < PigBot> Let's watch SpaceX static fire Starship SN-5! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y3f8uhv8
10:49 <@Mirage> lol...status on the left "Everything Norminal?" "[Check Pants]"
10:50 < DrArkaneX> :D
10:50 < DrArkaneX> Tim has a bit of fun with it...  :)
10:50 <@Mirage> Heh, and I just noticed the "Pointy end up, flamey end down"
10:51 < DrArkaneX> yea..
10:52 < DrArkaneX> SN5 isn't venting so not just yet, they are hoping to do a static fire soon, seems they had to abort due to a boat in the water
10:57 <@Mirage> Lol...ppl bitching about censorship on facebook.  If there wasn't any it'd wind up being a mashup of MySpace and /b in under a week
10:57 < DrArkaneX> lol, true, but FB and Twitter are just getting crazy with it
10:58 <@Mirage> Arguable there is a lot of crazy going around
10:58 < DrArkaneX> everyone says, GO TO PARLER, FREE SPEECH THERE.. so i do a little research and parler banned about 8500 accounts.. lol
10:59 < DrArkaneX> all the social media places will censor speech, just depends..
11:01 < DrArkaneX> i'm in a telegram group and one dude comes in and posts a few racists things and then asks if that's ok, I said, As long as every post is not racist i don't care, he then proceeds to spam the channel with racist shit, so i start deleting them, then he whines about his free speech, so i ban him out of the group.. lol
11:01 < DrArkaneX> i told him as far as racism goes, keep it blazing saddles style... not "i'm in the KKK and i fuck my cousin" style
11:04 <@Mirage> People don't seem to grasp that promoting [some] conspiracy theories, propaganda, fake/misrepresented news on a social media platform is the online equivalent to falsely yelling "Fire!" in a crowded area.
11:05 <@Mirage> Though I'm more and more inclined to say fuck it and let natural selection take over on mediating it
11:06 < DrArkaneX> Well, that's true, however, my mom used to fall for such shit, and I told her to run it by me before she posts anything or shares..
11:07 < DrArkaneX> I think people should be allowed to let the world know what kind of person they are.
11:08 < DrArkaneX> otherwise, the real seedy racist bigots go into hiding.. I liked it better decades ago when you didn't have to guess if someone was a bigot or not, now it's just really hard to tell
11:12 <@Mirage> Of course there are always exceptions to that which largely have to do with upbringing and the times/vernacular changing.  My grandpa isn't racist, but yet he still tends to refer to hispanics and blacks by terms not acceptable by today's standards.
11:14 <@Mirage> My grandpa refers to any cheap tool/parts store like Harbor Freight and Northern Tool as the "Chinaman shop" because the vast majority of what they carry is made in china
11:14 < DrArkaneX> right, i think what it boils down to is intent.  I doubt your grandpa intends any harm
11:14 <@Mirage> Exactly.
11:14 < DrArkaneX> i mean, that's not the best terminology to use nor is it tacticful but is he wrong? :D
11:15 < DrArkaneX> reminds me of the big lebowski..  lol
11:15 < DrArkaneX> you let the chinaman pee on your fucking rug dude
11:17 <@Mirage> N. Tulsa and low income areas of other towns I knew used to be referred to as "nigger town"...not because there were a lot of blacks there, but because it was primarily trashy poor people (black, white, indian, hispanic) living there
11:17 < DrArkaneX> right.. if people are going to be racist, they need to be equal opportunity racists...  :D
11:18 <@Mirage> Like pig, who hates everyone equally
11:19 < DrArkaneX> that's why i say a blazing saddles type of play on stereotypes.  I lot of people can't tell the difference between racism and stereotypes and they treat them equally, however, I think what racism boils down to is mainly intent.  What did you intend to happen after so and so called someone a "racially charged" name
11:20 < DrArkaneX> like "White people eat mayonaise" is a common stereotype, i don't like mayo, i like miracle whip.. :D
11:20 <@Evilpig> DrArkaneX: disgusting fuck
11:20  * Evilpig gags
11:20 < DrArkaneX> hahaha
11:20 <@Dolemite> Nasty shit
11:21 <@Evilpig> I hate people that like miracle whip more than others.  it's a genuine valid hatred of those with tangy blech tastebuds
11:21 < DrArkaneX> Mmmmm, fucking love the stuff, hell when i was a jr, i'd eat just the miracle whip and bread..
11:21 <@Evilpig> there is literally nothing worse in the world then reaching for a delicious deviled egg and coming up with a mouthful of tang
11:22 < DrArkaneX> i like a little twang in my food...
11:22 < DrArkaneX> mayo is just too damn bland
11:24 < DrArkaneX> @Dolemite: don't hate
11:24 <@Mirage> My preference depends on what it's in.  Just like corned beef and/or saurkraut.  CB by itself, nasty...SK by itself, nasty..put them together in a ruben, yum!
11:24 < DrArkaneX> I 100% agree
11:24 < DrArkaneX> godammit, now i want a reuben
11:24 <@Mirage> lol
11:25 <@Evilpig> I'm up for that
11:25 < DrArkaneX> with miracle whip Evilpig?
11:25 <@Evilpig> you're a disgusting troll. 
11:25  * Evilpig pukes
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11:26 < DrArkaneX> :D
11:27 <@Mirage> Anyone make/made their own pickled okra and have a fav recipe?  I've got 4-5 i'm already leaning towards trying, but definitely open to suggestions.
11:28 < DrArkaneX> i'm no good at pickling
11:28 <@Evilpig> I've got a good one for jalepenos but not okra
11:28 <@Evilpig> and a good one for bread and butter pickles
11:28 < DrArkaneX> just canned some green beans and squash right out of my garden the other day but the squash didn't seal right..
11:29 < DrArkaneX> what I want to make is some good chow chow
11:29 <@Mirage> We've got a bumper crop of okra and cayenne, so I'm planning on pickling some of the okra and using the cayenne instead of red pepper.
11:30 < DrArkaneX> the amish around me know how to make chow chow..  so fricken good
11:30 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I already make bread & butter jalepeno pickles that we eat the hell out of, so I'm good on that front.
11:32 <@Mirage> The "fun" part of testing out these different recipes is that none of them are for the same amount and I only intend on making one jar of each to see which we like best.  The measuring is gonna be interesting
11:33 <@Evilpig> Mirage: the last batch of jalepenos we made I added those weird little peruvian peppers I grew last year and it upped the heat level on them a good bit
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11:44 <@Mirage> I'm only finding shit related to "I have implemented SPF/DKIM/DMARC, why is my email still not delivered?"...what I want is "Why the fuck does my spf/dkim/dmarc fail for inbound mail but the shit still gets delivered anyway!"
11:44 <@Mirage> At least DSPAM still catches 99%+ of the ones that go through, but still...
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12:47 <@Mirage> lol.. https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/tls/d/mckinney-earth-auger/7168634748.html
12:48 < PigBot> Earth auger - tools - by owner - sale (at dallas.craigslist.org) http://tinyurl.com/y4gkzpo5
12:48 <@Mirage> The description is classic..
12:52 <@Evilpig> lol
12:52 <@Evilpig> if you don't know what this is, you need it
12:58 <@Mirage> Been looking for one to redo the shitty fence we have here at the house, so probably gonna go grab it.
13:02 < DrArkaneX> those are nice until you hit a root or something static...
13:11 <@opticron> damn it, read the backlog and now I want a reuben, too
13:12 <@opticron> and while I won't eat sauerkraut by itself, I will totally sit down with a slab of corned beef and go to town
13:13 <@opticron> sans the giant globs of fat
13:15 <@Evilpig> opticron: get a little fat with eat bite.  nice....
13:17 < DrArkaneX> :D
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14:16 <@Mirage> Went and got that auger.  Told the guy I relaly liked the post and he said that he started off being serious with it and then decided "fuck it, lets have some fun"
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14:38 <@eryc> post was removed
14:39 <@Mirage> figures.
14:40 <@Mirage> Of course since I went and bought it, that's not completely unexpected.
14:40 <@eryc> yea.. happen to have a cached copy or retell the gist?
14:40 <@Mirage> BTW, anyone wanna come to TX and help me replace and extend out my fence?  I've got an auger now for the holes.
14:41 <@Mirage> Gist was that it's supposed to be a 1 man, but might need 2 ro use it, though since gyms are slow getting opened back up it'd be a great way to bulk up and impress your chick.
14:42 <@Mirage> It was for an auger similar to this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sportsman-Earth-Series-43cc-6-in-Gas-Powered-Auger-802405/301687344
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14:45 <@eryc> how much did you pay for one?
14:45 <@Mirage> This one's got an 8x36" auger on it for doing the 4x4" posts,  Since I'm gonna be doing the steel posts I might order a 4x32" to use instead.
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16:13 <@Dagmar> Darned power outages
16:17 <@Mirage> I don't see it being worth $25, but it is pretty cool.  https://awesomeskull.com/collections/sfm/products/anonymous-sport-mask-filter-activated-carbon-pm-2-5-fm-hm26-n95-3m-sfm2020
16:17 < PigBot>  Anonymous Sport Mask Filter Activated Carbon PM 2.5 FM HM26 (N95 3M) S – Awesome Skull  (at awesomeskull.com) http://tinyurl.com/y3px3x2f
16:17 <@Dagmar> Cute, but vented masks are not helpful
16:18 <@Dagmar> They generally let the filthy exhalations right out
16:22 <@Dagmar> I want one of the ones that's got yer own face printed on it
16:22 <@Dagmar> I see people taking selfies, but never see anyone giving a damn link
16:26 <@Mirage> I saw someone posting about clear ones so that deaf ppl who depend on lip reading could still be your mouth when you talked...of course there really wasn't any filter to them, so it was a completely pointless gesture
16:26 <@Dagmar> Not so
16:27 <@Dagmar> If you get a really good seal on them, they stop people from posting dumb shit to the internet after just a few minutes
16:47 <@Dagmar> Listening to Trump's press conference today...
16:47 <@Dagmar> He's a fuckin' idiot
16:47 <@Dagmar> He's literalyl just rambling incoherently
16:48 <@Dagmar> ...in between flagrant lies.
17:02 <@Mirage> lol...I've seen the fake polls and i've seen the real polls.
17:02 <@Dagmar> Well, the fake ones are the ones that show him losing to Biden
17:02 <@Mirage> that reminds me of the "internal polls" they joked about in My Cartoon President
17:03 <@Dagmar> He's actually stumping for "absentee ballots" and against "mail-in voting" in practically the same breath
17:03 <@Dagmar> I just wanna know when we're going to eat him
17:04 <@Dagmar> The lies about us leading in testing are particularly annoying
17:04 <@Dagmar> We are so far from "leading" in testing it's not even funny
17:04 <@Mirage> I liked the video that he posted on twitter where the news station mailed "ballots" to their polling fake office because it blatant shows how inept and untrustworthy the USPS is anymore.
17:05 <@Mirage> s/untrustworthy/unreliable/
17:05 <@Mirage> Fuck it...both work really..
17:07 <@Mirage> I hope that he loses in Nov and throws a huge temper tantrum that gets broadcast by every news agency on the planet.
17:07 <@Mirage> I still can't wrap my head around how ANYONE can still support him
17:07 <@Mirage> It's China's fault!
17:08 <@Mirage> If the top on my desk were wood instead of glass I would probably be well on the way to giving myself braindamage right now.
17:09 <@Dagmar> Yeah the racist asshole was calling it "the China virus" again when talking about Cain dying
17:11 <@Evilpig> Mirage: mass delusion.  it's the only answer
17:11 <@Mirage> Can PotUS "send in the Nat'l Guard"?  I didn't think so...I thought that was on the state gov.
17:11 <@Evilpig> there is that portion of the population that believes everythign he's said and done are fake and made up by "the media"
17:11 <@Evilpig> even though he controls his twitter, and said those things, that wasn't what he meant.  it's like an abused wife making excuses for her husband's beating
17:13 <@Mirage> Yeah, I was having a really fun discussion with my mom about how the biggest problem with Trump is himself and his inability to stick to the script/speech that was written for him and his tendency to tweet whatever comes to mind.
17:14 <@Mirage> She of course didn't agree with me...but then she also didn't see the distinction with the people in MO being charged for pointing their weapons at protesters in that branishing the weapon is a problem but simply having them held in a non-threating way would have been 100% fine.
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