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06:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:23 <@Dolemite> docker creates its own private networks for inter-process and inter-container communications
06:24 <@Dolemite> So you can't tame it in terms of iptables
06:29 <@Dolemite> So I noticed a change in the political ads, yesterday...    instead of the local candidates saying, "Elect me because I will suck Trump's cock the hardest," they are now saying, "Liberals kill babies and I promise to protect them."   May be that they finally realize he's not universally viewed as the savior of 'murica.
06:33  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:34 < aestetix> Dolemite: wasn't Trump's main selling point that he wasn't yet another slimy politician?
06:34 < aestetix> And I guess that has worn off
06:40 <@Dolemite> He wanted to "Drain the swamp"
06:40 <@Dolemite> Well maybe that happened, but unfortunately all that was left was the drain slime
06:41 <@Dolemite> I just fear the absolute right wing nut case that we're going to end up with in Lamar Alexander's old Senate seat
06:41 <@Dolemite> They are going to make Marsha Blackburn seem like a moderate
06:41 <@Dolemite> Because I have yet to even hear the name of a Democrat running for the seat
06:52 <@Dolemite> Ok, after looking up the candidates on wikipedia, I can fairly confidently say that we'll end up with another Republican in the seat
06:54 <@Mirage> On the news last night when Trump was talking about how great the relationship was with Mexico what immediately came to mind was the wall and the phrase "Good fences make good neighbors"
06:55 <@Dolemite> And the fact that Mexico has closed their borders with Arizona right now due to the Coronavirus spike?
06:55 <@Mirage> I would have pissed myself from laughing so hard if he'd actually come out and said that
06:55 <@Dolemite> The irony being that the spike is in Arizona, not in Mexico
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07:22 <@Mirage> Wow..all the crazies are really coming out of the woodwork and joining facebook to post and promote their baseless idiotic conspiracy theories
07:28 <@opticron> yeah....it's bad on nextdoor, too
07:30 <@Dolemite> Mirage:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvwm8KA0d_I&feature=emb_logo
07:30 < PigBot> YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9uhm5ol
07:32 <@Mirage> nice
07:32 <@Dolemite> Notice how none of these modern musicians can pull off their songs at home...   I guess they don't have enough computing power for all of the post processing.   LOL
07:33 < aestetix> Dolemite: is that sort of like how the late night show hosts are a lot less funny without their laugh track?
07:33 <@Dolemite> Dunno, I don't really watch them either way
07:33 <@Mirage> One of the guys I went to HS with posted this, which made me laugh, "This is ridiculous! It's July 7th and people are still setting off fireworks.  One almost caught our Christmas decorations on fire."
07:33 <@opticron> lol
07:34 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I've seen that meme going around
07:35 < aestetix> Facebook sounds like it has turned into the 2020 version of chain emails from grandparents
07:36 <@Mirage> Turned into that about the same time it was opened up to more than just college students
07:36 < aestetix> then I am definitely glad I don't use it
07:47 <@Mirage> Initially I only signed up for it because my HS class had formed a group there for reunion planning/communications.  Now I hop on when family or one of my friends text me and tell me to look at something they posted...usually it's pics or videos of kids playing sports, fishing, etc
07:49 <@Mirage> One of the workers at the day care my brother and his wife send their two kids to came up positive, so the kids and my brother (who normally drops them off) had to quarantine for 10-14 days.  Brother decided to spend that time up at their lake house, so the kids were getting to do a lot of fishing off the small dock they have.
08:13 < aestetix> Mirage: what pisses me off about that stuff
08:13 < aestetix> it's like they all forgot how to use email
08:14 < aestetix> there are plenty of non-facebook ways to get in touch with people
08:25 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: I've seen some of the same people go from thinking AOL was the internet, to the Internet Explorer icon + Google being the internet, to Facebook being the internet.
08:25 <@_NSAKEY> These are all older people.
08:26 <@Dolemite> Yeah, well, I hate how the younger generation all carry cell phones, but refuse to ever talk on the cell phone.   Text only.
08:26 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, that one's a bit silly to me too. They also can't troubleshoot their way out of a wet paper sack.
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08:32 <@Mirage> independent thought is hard
08:45 <@opticron> I worked for a company that produces phone equipment, I never want to talk on the phone again
08:45 <@opticron> I used up my lifetime phone hours
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08:49 <@Mirage> how do you "use up" something tyhat's lifetime?  Die and get revived?
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08:55 <@brimstone> that's how you refill something that's used up
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09:21 <@Mirage> I'd really be curious to see real cost numbers of India resources fixing things or performing tasks vs US resources.   Case in point, these stupid health checks that I've been tasked with performing for all the vRealize and K8 stack stuff in Comcast.  It takes 2-3 India resources ~2-2.5 hrs to complete...it takes me ~35-45 minutes
09:22 <@Evilpig> gotta also include the cost of blame
09:22 <@Evilpig> how much will it cost them if you screw something up, vs if the remote dipshits fuck up
09:23 <@Dolemite> It's not like they are incapable of learning to do the same things the same way.   Their cost model includes a factor for never having the same person doing the same task twice, so there is a learning curve built in.
09:24 <@Dolemite> Dammit, one of my favorite shirts is finally beyond salvage.   Why can't they make shirts to last more than 15 years, anymore?   LOL
09:24 <@Mirage> Apparently you can't really just fire someone in India and someone can't just quit their job.  From what I've heard 3 month notice is required to "quit".
09:25 <@Dolemite> Actually, the problem is that most of the Big & Tall options these days include designs or labels that I refuse to pay premium dollars for
09:25 <@Dolemite> I miss the old George Foreman clothing line.   It was comfortable and simple in terms of color schemes.
09:26 <@Mirage> Dolemite: yeah..wife has been turning my old t-shirts into rags.  A good number of them are from the 90's.
09:27 <@Dolemite> HRmm...   looks like George's clothing line is still available, just not at Casual MaleXL.   Works for me.
09:29 <@Mirage> What I've found personally is that a products normally sold in stores that shift to online only sales tend to have their quality slip...of course the quality slipping and a high number of returns to the store could have been the reason for the line being dropped in the firt place.
09:30 <@Evilpig> Mirage: are they actually worn out or is she just finally getting around to changing you to fit what she wants?
09:30 <@Mirage> Quite fit for chuch...very holy!
09:30 <@Mirage> er, church
09:32 <@Mirage> Or, as I try to explain to her..perfect for TX summers because they're air conditioned
09:49 <@Dolemite> So what's Dagmar referring to with the 1 PM statement?
09:49 <@Dolemite> Is that Metro Nashville school board?
09:51 <@Evilpig> yup
09:51 <@Evilpig> https://www.wkrn.com/news/metro-schools-teachers-plan-for-district-to-announce-reopening-plan-on-thursday/
09:51 < PigBot> Metro Schools teachers plan for district to announce reopening plan on Thursday | WKRN News 2 (at www.wkrn.com) http://tinyurl.com/yd3l4wnw
09:52 <@Dolemite> Gotcha.   Knox County doesn't present theirs until July 15, pretty much way too late to change course for this school year.
09:52 <@Dolemite> We seem to keep getting worse and worse superintendents.   It's a literal race to the bottom.
09:56 <@Evilpig> I think I need to get another micro-pc so we can put that on liam's tv and he can do school in his room this year.  may move sabrina's into her room too
09:56 <@Mirage> heh...awesome resolution for an issue: "We turned it off and on again."
09:57 <@_NSAKEY> Mirage: We had an older guy who, towards the end of his time, did 10 or 12 reboot tickets in one day toward the end of the year. All of them got "Ho ho ho I rebooted the server" as the resolution comment.
09:57 <@_NSAKEY> He's since gone on to spread his brand of humor at another place.
10:09 <@Evilpig> I wonder if they have a picture of me on a dart board at red hat
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10:10 <@Mirage> Probably on the target/deodorizers in the urinals
10:10 <@Evilpig> had to file a new bug report and there were no follow up quesions just "we're attempting to recreate"  but they did confirm they see the issue in the logs and other documentation I sent
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10:24 < eryc> i figured out my docker issue, docker run had given me a clue that ipv4 forwarding was disabled.. enabled and my port works
10:24 < eryc> Evilpig: whats the new bug?
10:24 <@Evilpig> some type of memory consumption
10:25 <@Evilpig> takes about 48 hours but it will fully exhaust all the memory on the system
10:25 < eryc> is this ansible tower?
10:25 <@Evilpig> yeah
10:25 < eryc> with the new redis release?
10:25 <@Evilpig> yup
10:25 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xgo07gfspvisf1o/Screenshot%202020-07-09%2007.27.55.png?dl=0
10:25 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screenshot 2020-07-09 07.27.55.png - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybll7yx3
10:25 < eryc> nice.. guess i'll wait on that upgrade
10:26 <@Evilpig> the memory isn't tied up in redis though
10:26 <@Evilpig> python3 /var/lib/awx/venv/awx/bin/daphne -u /var/run/tower/daphne.sock awx.asgi
10:26 <@Evilpig> this is the culprit
10:27 < eryc> hm.. https://github.com/django/daphne
10:27 < PigBot> GitHub - django/daphne: Django Channels HTTP/WebSocket server (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybylpj9a
10:27 < eryc> you guys will like this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/hmylhp/the_sysadmins_litany_of_double_entendres/
10:27 < PigBot> The Sysadmin's Litany of Double Entendres : sysadmin (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/yc3mdfyu
10:28 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  interesting
10:29 < eryc> so i would think you could somehow capture a core file of daphne and see what is using memory
10:29 < eryc> using pdb or something
10:31 <@Evilpig> it's likely they'll come back with that.  I have the python debugging tools installed from previous problems
10:43 < aestetix> corydon still not back
10:43 < aestetix> he must hate all you straight white males
10:44 <@Evilpig> he hates that we don't share sympathy for his self-generated problems
10:48 < aestetix> you know
10:48 < aestetix> at this point I think the woke left might be *worse* than the religious right
10:48 < aestetix> since the religious right didn't have twitter
10:52 <@Evilpig> they're all awful
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11:15 <@Mirage> holy shit.  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/09/supreme-court-says-eastern-half-of-oklahoma-is-native-american-land.html
11:16 < PigBot> Supreme Court says eastern half of Oklahoma is Native American land (at www.cnbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7awa8bz
11:26 <@dc0de> So now we can let people rape four year olds in eastern OK.
11:26 <@dc0de> The case sprang from the conviction of Creek member Jimmy McGirt, who was convicted by an Oklahoma court of raping a four-year-old child on land whose ownership was in dispute in the case.
11:27 <@Mirage> ok, tighlman.
11:29 <@Mirage> Beyond what sparked it, think about the potential implications of EVERYTHING in that area.  Land ownership, law enforcement, taxes, hunting regulations, oil rights, etc, etc
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11:50 <@Evilpig> Mirage: that just reads like all kinds of fucked up
11:51 <@Mirage> which part?
11:51 <@Evilpig> so in that half of tulsa if you commit a major crime that the state would charge you're now subject to tribal council?
11:51 <@Mirage> potentially, yes.
11:52 <@Evilpig> by reclassifying that land how will anyone know what is american governed and what is tribal?
11:52 <@Mirage> at minimum all Creek indians who's families are on the rolls will no longer have to pay taxes, be subject to state laws/taxes/regulations, etc, etc
11:53 <@Mirage> They would all fall under tribal gov't and federal
11:54 <@Mirage> If they wanted to, based on the decision, they could potentially declare that all that property is creek land and the current owners are no longer the owners....unless of course they are a member of the creek tribe
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11:56 <@Mirage> Of course on the flip side, if they decide to go all crazy with it, all the highways/roads/schools/hospitals/etc would no longer be supported by state taxes and would fall to them to support
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12:14 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Another issue that could creep in - if you go to the casino in Cherokee, NC, and you have a heart attack, you can't go to the hospital in Cherokee unless you are a Cherokee resident or tribal member.   You have to be transported half an hour away to Maggie Valley.
12:14 <@Mirage> Hence "etc, etc"
12:14 <@Dolemite> Pamela knows someone from back home in Jasper, TN, that visited...   and her husband died as a result of it.
12:15 <@Dolemite> yep
12:15 <@Dolemite> It's already been played out in court that employment discrimination and harassment laws don't apply in Native American casinos, too
12:15 < eryc> visited what
12:15 <@Dolemite> eryc: Cherokee casino
12:16 <@Dolemite> Harrah's Cherokee Casino
12:16  * eryc scribbles some notes
12:17 <@Mirage> Depending on how they run with it, the implications and impact could be massive, or could largely be a non-issue.
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12:49 <@Mirage> finally found a good overlay map.  the road my grandparents live on is the dividing line...they are on the north side in cherokee nation and on the south side is creek nation.
13:23 <@Evilpig> MNPS will be virtual schooling only until labor day
13:23 <@Evilpig> then they will re-evaluate
13:32 <@Mirage> A few of the schools around here have been sending out "election" forms to choose if they intend to send their kids to class or do online.  Others are talking about hybrid in-class and online for everyone
13:32 <@Evilpig> they did that here too
13:32 <@Evilpig> but since the case numbers are climbing so rapidly the city stepped in and somehow reason won out
13:33 <@Evilpig> one of their reasons was they said they cannot reasonably do any type of social distancing with the buses
13:33 <@Dolemite> Yeah, it's going to be a shit show up here
13:34 <@Dolemite> Farragut schools already have kids having to meet in mobile homes because they're overcrowded
13:34 <@Evilpig> 8 classes is too much for a high schooler to manage?  what?!
13:34 <@Evilpig> they just said the high school uses a block schedule with 4 classes on a day, and 4 classes on b day but they don't want them to see all 8 classes in a virtual setting because it will be too much
13:35 <@Evilpig> 8x 45 minute classes is 6 hours.  that's a full school day, isn't it?  
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13:49 <@Mirage> Dolemite: "portable buildings" not mobile homes....or at least that's what they were referred to in my day.
13:49 <@Mirage> 94 outside and the heat index is 109.  fuuuuuuccccckkk
13:50 <@Mirage> take about 2 steps out the door and you start sweating
13:52 <@Dolemite> Mirage: They are fucking mobile homes
13:52 <@Dolemite> Or, at best, trailers.
13:52 <@Dolemite> They came in on wheels and they can easily go back out on wheels
13:54 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: back when the flood hit nashville those were boats.  lol
13:57 <@Dolemite> Yep, one nearly hit Pamela on I-24.   She went through that intersection about 5 minutes before the trailer boats breeched the median walls.
13:59 <@dc0de>  22763172
14:02 <@Mirage> Dolemite: looking at getting TX fishing license to be able to fish down here some since I haven't gone up to OK since all the shut-downs started.  Unlike on that lake/river we went out on w/ your father-in-law's boat, the rules on the Red River are that you can fish anywhere from a boat so long as you have a license from OK or TX.  Fishing from the bank you have to have the license for whichever state you're in.  They even sell a specif license just for Lak
14:24 <@Mirage> https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXMCKIN358
14:24 < PigBot> Personal Weather Station Dashboard | Weather Underground (at www.wunderground.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9gskaev
14:58 <@Evilpig> what weather station have you got again?  I know you've said once or twice before
15:00 <@Mirage> EcoWitt HP3501, but I swapped out the display for the HP2551-C because it's bigger
15:01 <@Mirage> http://www.ecowitt.com/weather_station/97.html
15:01 < PigBot> HP3501 Professional TFT WIFI Weather Station_ECOWITT (at www.ecowitt.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7kffu27
15:01 <@Mirage> http://www.ecowitt.com/Others/101.html
15:01 < PigBot> HP2551-C HP2551 Weather Station Display Console - Accessory Only_ECOWITT (at www.ecowitt.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycwmgbel
15:01 <@Mirage> Also added a couple extra temp/humidity sensors..one in the garage and one in the attic.
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15:49 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS2xdk9-9uc
15:49 < PigBot> YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7bryrf8
15:50 <@Mirage> Grandpa was having the same hard to start problem with his almost exactly like this.  His solution was to just buy the starter kit for it and have me put it on for him.  You can blatantly see at 41:16 where the knock-out already is to just mount a starter on it.
16:34 < eryc> Evilpig: i have a red hat redhat if you want it
16:35 < eryc> i'm keeping the nice jacket tho
16:36 < eryc> i asked them for a fedora but i guess it's some cult thing
16:36 < eryc> where's sdodson
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