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00:06 <@Dagmar> Perhaps you might consider that _historians differ_ on that subject
00:08 <@Dagmar> Lincoln _himself_ argued that the Federal governent didn't have the right to make that decision for the states
02:17 < aestetix> Dagmar: sounds like one of those questions like "what caused the great depression"
02:17 < aestetix> Nobody can agree on it
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05:39 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
05:40 <@Dolemite> wow, this rsync job has been running for over 24 hours at this point.    Never underestimate how much time it will take for millions of tiny files to copy.
06:01  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:02 <@Dolemite> I'm having to migrate IMAP off of an RHEL6 box since it's EOL.   It has group mailboxes going back to at least 2007.
06:02 <@Dolemite> And, of course, Cyrus IMAP stores one file per message.   No efficiencies of large data transfers, for sure.
06:03 <@Dolemite> I'm just so excited about how much time it will take to rsync the Mailman archives!
06:36 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: might have been more effient to scp then follow up with rsync to verify permissions, hashes, etc
06:37 <@Evilpig> or could have done an inline tar stream
06:37 <@Dolemite> It's not even across boxes
06:37 <@Dolemite> It's a local rsync to an NFS mounted share
06:38 <@Evilpig> rsync still uses alot of cpu for that
06:38 <@Dolemite> Well I'm sure as hell not starting over...
06:39 <@Dolemite> After this is done I'll have to wait a week and run an rsync update to see how fast it will run through everything to calc checksums and copy the very few updated files...   because I'll need metrics for submitting the change request as to how long I'll need to have the server offline
06:39 <@Evilpig> hopefully that won't be as bad
06:40 <@Dolemite> So at least with me migrating all of the data over to NFS then future rebuilds won't have to put up with this shit
06:40 <@Evilpig> I guess I need to get some shoes on and run out and grab some breakfast.  camping out at mom's the next few days and don't have my usual stuff around
06:40 <@Dolemite> I have to actually shower today.   Dentist appointment this afternoon.
06:41 <@Evilpig> unless you get like us and have some network issue crop up and screw with your nfs connections. ;)
06:41 <@Evilpig> If the box is virtual, instead of migrating to an nfs share use a virtual disk for t that you can attach to a new box
06:41 <@Evilpig> that's how I handle rtorrent
06:45 <@Dolemite> They want me to move it to containers, but I didn't get much notice on doing it - these boxes belong to the Email admins, but they don't know Linux, so at the last hour they were added to my stack of technical debt to deal with.   We're required to have everything off of RHEL6 by August unless a risk acceptance form is approved by the CIO.
06:45 <@Dolemite> Also the VM disks are all flash and the NFS is spinning, so much much cheaper.
06:45 <@Dolemite> A lot of this is what I call the WORN file system.   Write Once Read Never.
06:46 <@Dolemite> But it's archived info for legal purposes and such
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06:54 < aestetix> can anyone tell me why netflix autoplays the next episode even after I turned the setting off?
06:59 <@Evilpig> heh, I heard that
06:59 <@Evilpig> because they hate you?
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07:00 <@Evilpig> was just in the car grabbing a biscuit and they were talking about "who is america?" the sacha baren cohen show and I had forgotten just how funny that dude can be
07:36 <@eryc> did you see the leaked video of him at a rally last weekend
07:47 <@eryc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2qtjgo463Y
07:47 < PigBot> YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6wkmdy2
08:20 <@Evilpig> that's what they were talking about
08:20 <@Evilpig> and laughing about he came back disguised as the camera man while someone else was asking about what he just did
08:24 <@Evilpig> I need to see if I can find that video, it was making me chuckle in the car
08:30 <@Mirage> Anyone wanna have some fun?  https://action.donaldjtrump.com/official-trump-approval-poll/?
08:30 < PigBot> Official Trump Approval Poll | Make America Great Again (at action.donaldjtrump.com) http://tinyurl.com/y98n3boz
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08:41 <@Evilpig> I wonder if they're flagging responses from tor to remove
08:42 <@Mirage> They're probably flagging ans filtering out anything other than approval
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09:31 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: If you haven't seen it yet, the Jimmy O. Yang comedy special on Amazon Prime is worth watching
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12:44 <@Mirage> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/beavis-butt-head-returning-two-new-seasons-spinoffs-at-comedy-central-1301344
12:44 < PigBot> 'Beavis and Butt-Head' Returning With Two New Seasons (and Spinoffs) at Comedy Central | Hollywood Reporter (at www.hollywoodreporter.com) http://tinyurl.com/yanscsl6
12:46 < K`Tetch_> huh, huhuh, huhuhuhuh, that rules
12:52 <@Mirage> Ugh..I forgot to edit my pizza order to specify "wedge" vs "square" pieces for the thin crust xtravaganza.   Why Domino's defaults to cutting thin crush into squares is beyond me..wife and I both hate it.
13:14 <@Evilpig> you don't like pieces without crust?
13:17 <@Evilpig> K`Tetch_: that's awesome!
13:18 <@Evilpig> I'll enjoy me some new beavis.  will they still watch music videos but now on a phone or something on youtube?
13:19 <@Mirage> Who knows.  Based on the "updated for Gen Z..." comment, it's probably going to suck or at least be a dim shadow of what we all remember.
13:35 < aestetix> Mirage: nice
13:36 < aestetix> although tbqh, not sure how well beavis and butthead will work now
13:53 <@Mirage> Yeah, hence my being wary of the "updated for Gen Z..." comment
13:54 <@Mirage> A PC hipster version of Beavis and Butthead would not be enjoyable
13:58 < aestetix> I watched the season they put out in 2011
13:58 < aestetix> it was ok, but dated
15:45 < xray> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7166213/
15:45 < PigBot> Low-power Density Radiations Emitted from Common Wi-Fi Routers Influence Sperm Concentration and Sperm Histomorphometric Parameters: A New Horizon on Male Infertility Treatment (at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) http://tinyurl.com/yclkrt4f
15:46 < xray> TLDR;  Findings revealed that radiation hormesis induced by low power density Wi-Fi radiation have biological beneficial effects on mouse sperm concentration and sperm histomorphometric parameters.
16:17 <@Shadow404> glad i dont have to worry about that..not having kids
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