--- Log opened Fri Jun 26 00:00:37 2020 00:38 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:59 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@047-039-211-239.res.spectrum.com] has joined #se2600 01:00 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@047-039-211-239.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:00 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 01:02 -!- K`Tetch [~no@047-039-211-239.res.spectrum.com] has joined #se2600 01:02 -!- K`Tetch [~no@047-039-211-239.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:02 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 01:04 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:09 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:31 -!- K`Tetch [~no@047-039-211-239.res.spectrum.com] has joined #se2600 05:31 -!- K`Tetch [~no@047-039-211-239.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Changing host] 05:31 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 05:53 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p54ac5ba1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 05:57 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 05:58 <@Dolemite> Mirage: couldn't be Ann unless there was some hidden critical infrastructure in the crash zone. 06:11 <@Dolemite> Hey, we're in the middle of a global pandemic. Let's submit a request to dismantle Obamacare, again! 08:04 <@Mirage> At this point I think his main goal is probably to dismantle it simply to be able to roll out TrumpCare which will save everyone from the horrid kung flu and immortalize him for having saved the country 08:15 <@Dolemite> Well he's pretty fucked on that last part 08:37 <@Mirage> In reality, yes...but just how in touch with reality is he? 08:48 <@Mirage> In an "Emergency Change" to take down some infra to apply VMware patches.. Best way to describe how well this is going involves monkeys and footballs. 08:50 <@Mirage> Of course earlier this week it was stated that this new environment wouldn't be released for General Access until all these patches had been applied...but then the bean counters stepped in and pushed for GA anyway because the way the contract is written we don't start getting paid until it goes GA 08:50 <@Evilpig> accountants always make projects more successful 09:02 <@Mirage> OMG..ppl need to worry more about being responsible (social distance, stay home, wear masks) than bitching about everything and wanting to sue or protest against it. 09:04 <@Mirage> Courts should just throw all the frivolous lawsuits out, then fine whoever initiated the suit for wasting their time. 09:04 <@Mirage> Along with a court ordered mandate to do whatever it is that they were suing about. =) 09:05 <@Corydon76> Frivolous means something different. But they're already out the filing fees, so there's that. 09:07 <@Corydon76> Mirage: the more amusing part will be when the bailiff forces them to wear a mask to the hearing. 09:08 <@Mirage> If the suit was about masks, yeah. 09:34 < aestetix> Dolemite: ping 09:41 <@Dolemite> pong 09:42 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Horny monkeys at that? 09:44 <@Mirage> Dolemite: yes, quite randy 09:51 < aestetix> ok so maybe you all would know 09:51 < aestetix> are there any good comedy shows? 09:51 < aestetix> all the ones I have tried sucked 09:51 < aestetix> veep was pretty good, everything else was awful 09:51 < aestetix> tried the good place, tried brooklyn nine nine 09:51 <@Mirage> depends on your definition of a "good comedy show" 09:52 < aestetix> good comedy like..... adult humor, on the edge of being offensive but doing it really well and smart 09:57 <@eryc> the office and silicon valley 09:57 < aestetix> silicon valley was good, although it tapered off at the end 09:57 < aestetix> I watched one episode of the office and hated it 09:57 < aestetix> IIRC the office is by the same guy who did brooklyn nine nine 09:58 <@opticron> the first season of the office is suuuuper cringey 09:58 <@eryc> here https://medium.com/applied-data-science/the-google-vs-trick-618c8fd5359f 09:58 < PigBot> The Google ‘vs’ Trick - Applied Data Science - Medium (at medium.com) http://tinyurl.com/yc8rx7ax 09:58 <@opticron> I'm going through it right now 09:58 <@opticron> for the first time 09:58 <@eryc> and yea the office gets better 09:59 <@opticron> season 2 is already muuuuuch better than season 1 09:59 <@opticron> season 1 had me wanting to strangle some people 09:59 <@eryc> they gave michael's character a makeover 09:59 <@opticron> yeah 09:59 <@eryc> changed the whole show 09:59 < aestetix> basically brooklyn nine nine seems to be written for angry kids who don't understand how humor works 09:59 < aestetix> SJWs love that show 09:59 < aestetix> the good place is very similar. 10:00 < aestetix> politically correct bland "humor" 10:00 <@dc0de> https://twitter.com/jkbckr/status/1276196920717987840/photo/1 10:00 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycsea9da 10:09 <@Dolemite> aestetix: There's always Pig's favorite comedy, 90-day Fiancee 10:14 < aestetix> haha 10:14 < aestetix> honestly I'm trying to find something in the level of seinfeld 10:14 < aestetix> the closest is veep 10:14 < aestetix> all the best stuff coming out is dark and depressing 10:16 < aestetix> interesting 10:16 < aestetix> https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/carolinehaskins1/protests-tech-company-spying 10:16 < PigBot> A Tech Company Spied On Police Brutality Protesters (at www.buzzfeednews.com) http://tinyurl.com/yck4n5u2 10:35 <@Mirage> Just watch reruns of 2 Broke Girls and call it good 10:36 <@Evilpig> that buzzfeed article says "by monitoring protesters, Mobilewalla could undermine freedom of assembly" does that mean that these people wouldn't protest if they weren't anonymous? 10:43 <@Mirage> They should all be wearing masks, so what does it matter. lol 10:51 <@Corydon76> Mirage: it says that they're using cellphone data, not facial recognition. 10:52 <@Corydon76> I'd also point out that law enforcement will use the precedent of ANY encroachment on people you don't like and will tolerate to ensure that they can do the same to you. 11:00 <@Mirage> Corydon76: didn't read it, because I think that anyone w/ any sense would either avoid exercising their right to assemble with a pandemic going on and if they did would do so responsibly by wearing masks and spreading out. Granted if you get that many ppl together social distancing really doesn't matter because everyone is going to get exposed anyway simply based on the volume of ppl in the area 11:01 <@Mirage> Shit's gonna be hitting the fan even worse in TX now.. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/texas-rolls-back-its-reopening-a-day-after-pausing-plans-as-coronavirus-cases-rise.html 11:01 <@Corydon76> Mirage: the latest update on mask wearing is that they provide far more benefit than initially thought. I think the problem is that scientists are cautious about making statements that aren't fully borne out by the evidence. 11:01 < PigBot> Coronavirus: Texas rolls back its reopening plan as cases rise (at www.cnbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9wa67bl 11:02 <@Mirage> Corydon76: if masks didn't work, health care workers wouldn't wear them normally 11:03 <@Corydon76> That's honestly surprising. I would have thought they'd delay until after July 4th, so they could revel in the tourist dollars and then deal with the aftermath. 11:03 <@Corydon76> Mirage: I agree. 11:03 <@dc0de> like everyone else is doing Corydon76? 11:03 <@dc0de> I'm tired of this "we need the economy restarted" crap. 11:03 <@dc0de> the economy was false to begin with. 11:03 <@Mirage> What tourist dollars? 11:04 <@dc0de> But hey, don't look there... 11:04 <@Corydon76> dc0de: I suspect that was behind Nashville moving to Phase 3 even though the data didn't support the decision. 11:04 <@dc0de> Corydon76: I agree... I'm watching infection rate rise across the country... because of reopening. 11:04 <@dc0de> but hey, $$$$ talks... 11:05 <@Corydon76> Indeed. I'm waiting to see when the next Vitamin D study is released. 11:05 <@dc0de> I just hope that I get a job before my financial runway ends... 11:05 <@dc0de> I'm interested in that too, since I take Vit D, every morning... 11:06 <@Corydon76> The best data we have is that most people are seriously deficient, the young less so, but if you get your levels up, COVID-19 is a much smaller risk. 11:06 <@Mirage> I get my Vit D by going outside to smoke. =P 11:06 <@dc0de> Vit D does many things, but improving your resistance is one of them. 11:07 <@Corydon76> Mirage: that may or may not be enough. At any rate, smoking is itself a risk factor for COVID-19. 11:07 <@Corydon76> I'm surprised you aren't at least temporarily going the patch or vape route, to cut down on lung damage due to smoke particulates 11:09 <@Mirage> Not if I'm at home and don't engage with anyone else. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I leave the house in a 2-3 week period normally...and since all the crap started I always wear a mask to grocery store, home depot, gas station, and beer store...which pretty much constitutes 99% of my leaving the house 11:10 <@Mirage> Corydon76: After smoking for 25 years, I don't think that switching to the patch for a month or so will make much difference. 11:12 <@Corydon76> Mirage: there's lots of evidence on that, but I think you already know that. 11:12 <@Corydon76> In any case, I agree that you've mitigated your risk, at least from COVID-19. 11:13 <@Corydon76> dc0de: I'm on about 7500 IU a day. 11:13 <@Corydon76> And the other two people in my house are both taking 5000 IU a day. 11:13 <@Evilpig> i'm about to go engage in some covid-19 risky behavior and goto walmart for another pair of goggles for when I take sabrina and ashiah to the pool this afternoon 11:13 <@dc0de> Corydon76: I take 5000 IU a day... 11:14 <@dc0de> Evilpig: Fair winds and following seas! 11:14 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Be sure to change into your fancy pajamas, first 11:15 <@Corydon76> I suspect that a lack of Vitamin D all those years meant that I was especially susceptible to sunburn. 11:15 <@Corydon76> Haven't had one since I started supplementing. 11:33 <@Evilpig> One day they'll find a cure for red haired dna and I too will be able to enjoy time outside without becoming a lobster 11:33 <@Evilpig> until then, i'll just slather on the sunblock and limit my exposure 11:40 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: It's the burden you must bear for stealing all of those souls 11:41 <@Corydon76> Evilpig: you're not inclined to try supplementation? 13:07 <@Mirage> Apparently the wife asking me if charges/debits on our bank account is OK, but me asking her is grounds for separate accounts. 13:08 <@Mirage> Keeping in mind that there was no fighting/arguing/bitching about charges...just asking if they were valid 13:17 < xray> The bill would eliminate state laws that prevent the growth of municipal broadband. 13:17 < xray> $100 billion “universal fiber” plan proposed by Democrats in Congress 13:17 < xray> Ambitious legislation would deploy 100Mbps symmetrical broadband throughout US. 13:17 < xray> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/100-billion-universal-fiber-plan-proposed-by-democrats-in-congress/ 13:17 < PigBot> $100 billion “universal fiber” plan proposed by Democrats in Congress | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7z2gwd8 13:28 <@Evilpig> One key aspect of the bill is that it requires federally funded ISPs to provide low latency and speeds of at least 100Mbps for both downloads and uploads. 13:28 <@Evilpig> in other words, this will never pass because comcrap will never allow/agree to 100Mbup 13:29 <@Evilpig> they are firmly entrenched in that channel mess they've got so they could say they were offering gigabit without actually offering it 13:29 <@Mirage> I think that's fairly true of all cable companies. They just love async 13:31 <@Mirage> shit, my Spectrum small business gigabit is only like 30-40 up. I liked my Frontier FioS much better because though it was only 50, it was sync 14:54 <@Dagmar> Oh no, they'll provide synchronous to 2-3 locations in a county and then claim they're providing synchronous service to the entire county. 14:56 <@Dagmar> ...since that's how they're supplying "broadband" to a lot of areas, I expect they'll recycle that trick. 15:01 <@opticron> I could swear I read that the FCC was finally getting wise to that 15:01 <@opticron> not that they'll do anything about it 15:05 <@Corydon76> They could, in many places, if they stopped measuring at the county level and started measuring at the zipcode+4 level. That's fine-grained enough that if one side of the street has service and the other doesn't, then they lose out on one of those. 15:07 <@Corydon76> I wonder how quickly the cable lobbyists would be to wise up to that. 15:08 <@Corydon76> There are 3,141 counties in the US and almost a billion possible ZIP+4 combinations. 15:13 <@Mirage> the india guys just kill me sometimes. "Service is down, VM is up, no IP, can't ping" 15:13 <@Mirage> Um..duh? 15:38 <@Mirage> #5 is great. https://www.thefactsite.com/animals-drunk-in-the-wild/ 15:38 < PigBot> 5 Animals That Get Drunk in the Wild | The Fact Site (at www.thefactsite.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6vkdfkn 15:49 <@Mirage> #16 is greate.. https://www.thefactsite.com/100-random-food-facts/ 15:49 < PigBot> 100 Fun Food Facts You Wont Believe Are True | The Fact Site (at www.thefactsite.com) http://tinyurl.com/yyguv8on 15:49 <@Mirage> Russia took a long time to classify beer as being alcoholic: Until 2013, beer and other alcohol under 10% ABV was classified as a soft drink! 15:51 <@Mirage> This is interesting: Expiration dates on bottled water have nothing to do with the water - Water can.t expire . but the bottle it.s in can. Plastic bottles will eventually start leaking chemicals into the water. 15:52 <@opticron> yep, especially under any kind of thermal cycling 17:01 <@Evilpig> oh ffs it's spilled over into the housing market. https://www.wsmv.com/news/us_world_news/texas-realtor-group-says-it-will-no-longer-use-the-word-master-to-describe-bedrooms/article_09babab6-624c-5717-b2bb-5a3c25509087.html 17:01 < PigBot> Texas realtor group says it will no longer use the word "master" to describe bedrooms and bathrooms in its listings | US World News | wsmv.com (at www.wsmv.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9a9fk8p 17:10 <@Dagmar> Virtue signaling 21:07 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p54ac5ba1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:08 < K`Tetch> 11:14:24 aestetix honestly I'm trying to find something in the level of seinfeld <-- what, overhyped shit? 23:08 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 23:09 < K`Tetch> 11:36:51 @Evilpig that buzzfeed article says "by monitoring protesters, Mobilewalla could undermine freedom of assembly" does that mean that these people wouldn't protest if they weren't anonymous? <-- afraid of retribution but.. the police maybe 23:09 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 23:12 < K`Tetch> 14:17:50 xray https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/100-billion-universal-fiber-plan-proposed-by-democrats-in-congress/ <--- yeah, because that worked well last time... 23:12 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 23:13 < K`Tetch> (for those that don't know, over $200B has been paid to ISps to roll out what should ahve been 45/45 by 2006 23:13 < K`Tetch> i have 120/12 23:13 < K`Tetch> oh, and charter is now lobbying the FCC to eliminate the 'no data caps' requirement that was placed on them as a merger condition 23:22 <@Dagmar> I am Jack's total lack of surprise 23:30 < K`Tetch> and of course, t-mobile is now lobbying for its sprint merger conditions to be dropped 23:31 <@Dagmar> Well, of course 23:31 <@Dagmar> That's what made the AI so angry 23:31 <@Dagmar> @#$@#4 23:32 < K`Tetch> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200624/10522944772/t-mobile-is-already-trying-to-wiggle-out-sprint-merger-conditions.shtml 23:32 < PigBot> T-Mobile Is Already Trying To Wiggle Out Of Its Sprint Merger Conditions | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7snek4w 23:32 < K`Tetch> on the up side - https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200619/18181844746/appeals-court-strips-immunity-abusive-cops-who-assaulted-compliant-black-man-city-that-allowed-this-to-happen.shtml 23:32 < PigBot> Appeals Court Strips Immunity From Abusive Cops Who Assaulted A Compliant Black Man... And The City That Allowed This To Happen | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) http://tinyurl.com/yd4zyjmj 23:32 <@Dagmar> They made an AI, left it alone with video games, it got mad about what horrible things devs had done and began torturing every human on the base with them 23:32 <@Dagmar> @#$%#$% 23:33 <@Dagmar> The immunity needs to be taken away at the _Federal_ level or this will not change anything 23:33 < K`Tetch> yes, i know 23:33 <@Dagmar> Police unions will lobby and reverse everything that comes from these protests 23:37 < K`Tetch> thats why i put out a guide of changes that could and should be made more than 7 years ago 23:37 < K`Tetch> and yes, i guess i need to update it 23:38 < K`Tetch> and i'm still trying to transcribe last weeks protest speeches, but there's so many 'preachers' constantly going on about god, its hard to keep from smashing the screen or keybaord. 400 words in 120 seconds, half of them saying how god controls everything as part of his plan - so why are you here? 23:40 < K`Tetch> (its at https://falkvinge.net/2013/01/08/how-the-police-and-politicians-can-regain-the-public-trust/ if you've never seen it) 23:40 < PigBot> How the Police (and Politicians) Can Regain the Public Trust - Falkvinge on Liberty (at falkvinge.net) http://tinyurl.com/ybfoahtl 23:46 <@Dagmar> Mainly these days I'm interested in cooking recipes for politicians --- Log closed Sat Jun 27 00:00:39 2020