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00:05 < K`Tetch> i've had a copy of boltons bok since saturday, Dagmar
00:06 < K`Tetch> i even cowrote a piece about it last night - https://torrentfreak.com/leak-of-john-boltons-controversial-book-triggers-unstoppable-piracy-frenzy-200622/
00:06 < PigBot> Leak of John Bolton's Controversial Book Triggers 'Unstoppable' Piracy Frenzy * TorrentFreak (at torrentfreak.com) http://tinyurl.com/y87acqwy
00:06 < K`Tetch> amusingly, they took down SSoSecret's tweets with the direct link and the magnet URI, but my direct response, linking to the torrent on TPB, is still up
00:07 < K`Tetch> https://twitter.com/ktetch/status/1274494421317320705
00:07 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycjpq3jo
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06:16 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:22  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
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06:31 <@Dolemite> I totally get the George Floyd issue.   I totally don't get the Rayshard Brooks one.   Former didn't resist and got shot.   Latter tried to tase the officer and got shot.
06:31 <@Dolemite> That's pretty freakin' cut and dry.
06:33 <@Dolemite> The world be cray cray and this train is going off the rails
06:39 < aestetix_> Dolemite: I heard an interview with a police officere. Apparently tazers only have one shot in them. So even though he had a tazer, it had already been fired, so was useless
06:40 < aestetix_> That said, the officer was not from that district. So maybe there are different kinds of tazers with different rules
06:41 <@Dolemite> But the fact that Brooks tried to fire the tazer showed that he was willing to do anything to get away
06:42 <@Dolemite> The pedestal that the "movement" is putting him on right now is hurting their case more than helping
06:42 <@Dolemite> Then this whole CHAZ thing
06:42 < aestetix_> And of course, the bystander that set the Wendy's on fire turned out to be his girlfriend
06:43 <@Dolemite> Damn, I hadn't heard that part
06:43 <@Dolemite> That makes it even worse
06:51 <@Dolemite> https://ahtaitay.blogspot.com/2020/06/fing-insertion-is-systematic-and-this.html
06:51 < PigBot> F***ing Insertion is Systematic, And This Is How It Works. (at ahtaitay.blogspot.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7e5tsxd
06:51 <@Dolemite> The things they should have taught us in High School English class
07:04 < aestetix_> I do wonder what happens with the future of CHAZ
07:05 <@opticron> yeah, that situation is super weird
07:06 <@opticron> they have that list of insane demands, but no leverage afaict?
07:06 < aestetix_> Their leverage is twitter shaming
07:06 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.   Last night's episode of The Titan Games had a trans (f2m) competitor.   Haven't seen the end, yet.   If he wins, man it's going to make some transphobic heads explode - if they even kept watching after the introduction.
07:09 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE7P1cSJjRA
07:09 < PigBot> YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9n9b3x9
07:09 < aestetix_> it looks like occupy
07:10 < aestetix_> how long has CHAZ been a thing?
07:10 < aestetix_> Has it been two weeks yet?
07:11 <@opticron> at least?
07:12 < aestetix_> well I specifically ask because two weeks is the COVID-19 incubation period
07:12 < aestetix_> ok, established june 8
07:13 < aestetix_> so there is a chance that a lot of new cases of COVID might start developing :/
07:13 <@opticron> yeah, just over 2 weeks
07:13 <@opticron> and SPD has apparently announced that they're going to take it back today or so
07:14 < aestetix_> that's gonna be popular
07:15 <@Dolemite> I think it has been 2 weekends
07:15 <@Dolemite> but not quite 2 weeks
07:16 < aestetix_> oh man
07:16 < aestetix_> AOC has raised $10 million against her opponents $2 million
07:17 < aestetix_> Didn't she say something about getting money out of politics?
07:17 <@opticron> politicians say a lot of things
07:17 <@Dolemite> There's ideology and there's reality
07:17 <@opticron> but removing all the money isn't practical no matter what your goals are
07:18 <@opticron> at least not how things currently operate
07:18 <@Dolemite> It's kind of like you can be for term limits in Congress, but until you've been in Congress for several terms, you don't have the connections and political capital to make it actually happen.
07:19 <@Dolemite> And until you can actually get rules passed to get money out of politics, it's impossible to remain in office without playing the money game
07:21 < aestetix_> I'm just hoping to see a civil war in her followers
07:22 < aestetix_> between people who think she sold out and those who are just her instagram groupies
07:24 <@Corydon76> You mean like the civil war between Trump supporters who were in it because they wanted to see shit get torn down, and conservatives who actually want things to get done?
07:24 < aestetix_> Corydon76: yep
07:25 <@Corydon76> Weird how the Trump supporters who wanted him to burn it all down universally were opposed to the BLM protests, where, in some cases, things actually got burned down.
07:27 < aestetix_> Interesting. "Black Lives Matter" seems to be morphing into "Black Trans Lives Matter"
07:27 < aestetix_> which, while I agree with both statements.... seems oddly reductive
07:30 <@Corydon76> Black trans people are often also reviled or ignored by the black community.  It's a way to ensure that everybody recognizes that they have unjustified prejudices.
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07:32 <@Corydon76> It's not by accident, either.  In the 50s and 60s, blacks and gay people were often associated together by the straight white majority as a way of keeping both down.  MLK told Bayard Rustin that he couldn't be visually represented for what he was, a black gay man, during the March, because it would hold back the cause of black civil rights.
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07:33 < aestetix_> Corydon76: yeah, but will that turn into a "dog whistle"
07:33 < aestetix_> Like, I also agree with "all lives matter", but if you say that to a leftist, they will accuse you of being a white supremacist
07:33 <@Corydon76> Failing that, in the 1970s, Nixon associated blacks with heroin use.  And in the 80s, gay people were associated with pedophiles by the "Moral Majority"
07:33 < aestetix_> Also, you're talking about gay, not trans.
07:34 < aestetix_> Although now I wonder if we will see "Black Gay Lives Matter" signs
07:34 < aestetix_> (which I also support!)
07:34 <@Corydon76> If you adopt a phrase popularized by racists, "White Lives Matter", don't be surprised if someone associates you with that movement.
07:34 <@Corydon76> Or, sorry, "All Lives Matter"
07:35 <@Corydon76> We all know that's what they meant.
07:35 < aestetix_> Well there is a real problem here.
07:35 < aestetix_> Especially when a phrase only takes on that definition in places like Twitter
07:35 < aestetix_> And folks like me who do not use "social" media don't keep up. So we say "of course all lives matter" and then get called a white supremacist, which makes no sense
07:36 <@Corydon76> It's also weird how All Lives Matter people don't seem to have a problem with the police killing people.
07:36 < aestetix_> and you wonder why we stay the fuck out of debates
07:36 <@Dolemite> Reading a thread right now where a friend of mine got sent to Facebook Jail for posting an article about land that was legally stolen from black communities
07:36 <@Dolemite> Seriously.   That's some fucked up shit.
07:37 <@Corydon76> If All Lives Matter, that means every person who kills another will face SOME charges and be held to account, right?
07:37 < aestetix_> Because I will make a point to someone, and they will reply that I need to get educated so I don't say "bigoted" stuff, and their "education" is to read a bunch of drama threads on twitter
07:37 < aestetix_> Corydon76: absolutely.
07:38 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: It's still a pipe dream.  Heard this morning that only 2% of police who kill face any charges at all, and only 2% are convicted.
07:41 < aestetix_> Dolemite: that's not the half of it
07:41 < aestetix_> For a project, a friend of mine upload a video of 2 seconds of silence to his instagram account
07:41 < aestetix_> And the video got marked as inappropriate by their algorithm and deleted
07:41 < aestetix_> He was just testing something out, and it got flagged
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07:56 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: is the titan games worth watching?  I saw it pop up on a few trackers and I was semi-interested but game shows. meh.
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08:08 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: It's like the old American Gladiator, but The Rock hosts it and some of the challenges are just insane.   It's enjoyable.
08:21 <@Mirage> Oxymorons are fun.. "A huge new prehistoric circle has been discovered near Stonehenge"
08:33 <@Evilpig> https://youtu.be/B3hxCDqtSrQ?t=142
08:33 < PigBot> Guy smokes his brother while trying to kill cop (at youtu.be) http://tinyurl.com/yd5koo46
08:35 <@Evilpig> that's not new, btw. just wow
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10:27 <@Dolemite> Ah, man, fr0ggy died a few days, ago
10:28 <@Dolemite> He used to come to the earlier PN's and was one of Maverick's room mates
10:28 <@Corydon76> Ah, damn
10:28 < aestetix_> which fr0ggy?
10:29 < aestetix_> oh nevermind
10:29 < aestetix_> I was thinking notacon froggy
10:29 < aestetix_> Dolemite: covid?
10:30 <@Dolemite> Not sure.   He's been homeless the past few years, so it could be one of many different reasons.   The family said they knew there would be plenty of questions but to please respect their privacy.
10:30 <@Dolemite> So I wouldn't rule out suicide
10:32 <@Dolemite> He'd gotten married, had a daughter, and when his wife left him he lost it.   Had to spend some time in a mental health facility.   He got out, was able to spend time with his daughter, then lost his job and subsequently lost access to his daughter (not sure if it was lack of child support or what, but that's simply what I know from his FB posts).
10:33 <@Dolemite> After another round in a mental hospital he ended up homeless and had been trying to get employment but just kept coming up empty on that front.
10:34 <@Dolemite> Pretty much that's what is already on Facebook
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13:16 <@Mirage> Dolemite: he was the one that gave me my initial primer on IPFW on FreeBSD
13:17 <@Mirage> waaaaay back when
13:20 < aestetix_> Hmm. Grant, Lincoln, Keys.... I wonder if the next statue will be toppled on the grounds that the guy was friends with a racist
13:21 <@Mirage> I'm betting on them trying to dismantle all the memorials...starting with the Washington Memorial
13:39 <@Dolemite> Mirage:   Are you SURE?
13:39 <@Dolemite> I don't think he was a Linux person
13:40 <@Mirage> I thought
13:40 <@Mirage> Maybe I've been giving the wrong person credit all these years
13:56 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: ipfw is not a Linux command.  It's BSD.
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15:25 <@eryc> fr0ggy was a super nice kid
15:25 <@eryc> i remember he hooked everyone up with pirate directv smartcards
15:26 <@eryc> someone else told me the news but it took me a while to remember the name, that's unfortunate reading the above statements
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20:08 <@Evilpig> neat.  http://newsletter.wilpig.com/
20:08 < PigBot> Tautulli Newsletter - Recently Added to plex.wilpig.org! (2020-06-23) (at newsletter.wilpig.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybd29eno
20:10 <@Evilpig> as neat as that is, definitely not going to leave that enabled.
23:50 < K`Tetch> 08:56:06 «@Evilpig» Dolemite: is the titan games worth watching? I saw it pop up on a few trackers and I was semi-interested but game shows. meh. <--- its amusing enough. first season was gladiators without any gladiators, and more on strength. this one they have some 'gladiators' (titans) but its all done in a really nice way
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23:50 < K`Tetch> no bro-smack talk, lots of positive messages, the Rock being cool with the contestants, no talking down. etc.
23:51 < K`Tetch> its a decent 'background noise show'
23:51 < K`Tetch> its on hulu
23:53 < K`Tetch> netflix also has [ultimate] beastmaster, which is kinda the same, but each episode has 2 people from 6 countries compete more like ninja warrior. and the 6 commentary booths (one per country) are all next to each other, so its not unknown for them to switch booths and commentators to make fun o each other
23:56 < K`Tetch> then there's your silly shows, like holey Moley, and The Floor is Lava
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