--- Log opened Mon Apr 20 00:00:10 2020 06:58 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:38 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26731171904ED302DE9A522C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 10:16 <@Dolemite> Ok, I guess I'm getting bored enough that I'm now actively antagonizing the Fake Science 5G Kills people in the local town Facebook group, knowning that I'll end up in Facebook Jail. 10:32 <@Mirage> Channeling your inner Dagmar? 10:32 <@aestetix> Dolemite: why not start a @realdolemite twitter account 10:36 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Not quite. I simply posted a gif of Alex Jones wearing tin foil as a reply. 10:36 <@Dolemite> So she then replied back to me asking why I was being so disrespectful. I said I was simply responding to her fake science link with my own link to fake science. 10:37 < jb7od> anybody see the flame war where the pedal tavern guy made an appeal for all of us to "do the research" ourselves-- classic material. 10:37 < jb7od> other things I never thought I'd see in print: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8214749/David-Hockney-claims-smoking-cigarettes-PROTECT-against-coronavirus.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR0fqOy3SfRA2SOX_uyJG7Tmikc6bYBoHK00S41tbPYtsKAaWJxinFoV8Tk 10:37 < PigBot> David Hockney claims smoking cigarettes could PROTECT against coronavirus | Daily Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/y9g8lmwh 11:12 <@Corydon76> Read the full article. Even the Daily Fail pooh-poohs the idea. 11:13 <@Corydon76> It's most likely a statistical artifact of China having had really bad air quality until recently. 11:50 <@aestetix> nice 11:51 <@aestetix> as someone who really, really hates the government telling me whether I can smoke, this is a good development 11:53 <@Corydon76> The government doesn't tell you whether you can smoke. It does, however, inform you of the health implications, allows health insurance companies to charge you more, and also bans smoking from certain public areas where the drift would impede on the rights of nonsmokers. 11:54 <@aestetix> Pretty sure most big cities in the US banned indoor smoking 11:55 <@Corydon76> Nashville hasn't. I don't think Atlanta did, either. 11:55 <@aestetix> oh nice 11:55 <@aestetix> San Francisco did back in like 2000 11:56 <@Corydon76> Now, the state capitol in Nashville banned smoking within the rotunda. But that's limiting smoking where the drift can both harm others, as well as harm the interior of a historic landmark. 11:56 <@aestetix> But that's different from say passing a law smoking inside of a sports bar or something 11:57 <@aestetix> When I left, they had moved on to other things, such as banning sitting on the sidewalk 11:57 <@Corydon76> Funnily enough, most of the bars in Tennessee are now non-smoking, due to market pressure 11:58 <@aestetix> If each business decides to be non-smoking on its own, that's different 11:58 <@Corydon76> I know that's true from a freedom perspective. But I also think it's funny how often smokers couched it in terms of 'smokers rights'... and now they can't smoke inside anymore. 11:59 <@aestetix> Corydon76: do you think it should be illegal to sit on the sidewalk? 11:59 <@Corydon76> I think that sidewalks are public rights of way, and I do see impeding the public right of way as a problem. 12:00 <@aestetix> Well sure 12:00 <@aestetix> Let's assume you're not impeding anyone 12:00 <@Corydon76> That's how the law is phrased. 12:00 <@aestetix> Of course at this point san francisco is getting close to being communist 12:01 <@Corydon76> In that case, you don't have an issue with the law; you have an issue with how it's enforced. 12:01 <@Corydon76> That really comes down to the problems of gentrification. 12:01 <@aestetix> heh yeah 12:01 <@Corydon76> And 'who' the laws are enforced against 12:01 <@aestetix> I know some people who are protesting in the rent strike 12:01 <@aestetix> And they are tech workers who make a lot of money 12:02 <@aestetix> When I suggest they should take their rent money and donate it to a homeless shelter, they get mad at me 12:02 <@Corydon76> If you can demonstrate that the laws are enforced unevenly, you can obtain an injunction preventing them from enforcing that law. 12:04 <@Corydon76> I haven't seen any rent strikes that are worth the paper they're printed on. They all come down to people not wanting to pay their rent on time. 12:17 <@Corydon76> We had one of those issues in Nashville recently with people losing their jobs due to the coronavirus. Did people start with the idea of negotiation with landlords? NOPE! First thing, "we should have a rent strike!" 12:18 <@Corydon76> Strikes are supposed to be a last resort, AFTER you've done your damndest to avoid it. Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate, and keep the communication lines open, because you're going to need them if you do strike in order to come to some sort of agreement to end the strike. 12:19 <@Corydon76> It should NEVER be, "Hey, let's strike" as the first thing. 12:31 <@brimstone> atlanta banned indoor smoking last year: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2019-07-02/atlanta-oks-ban-on-smoking-inside-bars-restaurant-airport 12:31 < PigBot> 403 12:31 <@brimstone> including the airport 12:33 <@aestetix> yep, I consider that state oppression 12:34 <@aestetix> and if they are so concerned about "health" maybe they can ban mcdonalds next 12:37 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: https://www.tn.gov/health/health-program-areas/fhw/tobacco/smokefree-tennessee/smokefree-tennessee-faq.html 12:37 < PigBot> FAQ (at www.tn.gov) http://tinyurl.com/ybscwvkn 12:49 <@aestetix> _NSAKEY: yep, I consider that state oppression 13:27 <@_NSAKEY> A lot of bars had patio sections for smokers immediately after that passed, but that's slowly waned over time as the existing smoking population has died off and not been replaced by new smokers. 13:59 <@Corydon76> https://nypost.com/2020/04/19/testicles-may-make-men-more-vulnerable-to-coronavirus-study/ 13:59 < PigBot> Testicles may make men more vulnerable to coronavirus: study (at nypost.com) http://tinyurl.com/y743xr3h 14:00 * e-- brandishes scissors 14:29 <@dc0de> So those without testicles are fairing better? 14:29 * dc0de doesn't see how. 14:30 <@Corydon76> In India... 14:30 <@Corydon76> Other researchers have speculated that men in India smoke more. 14:30 <@dc0de> Do they have more unics per capita or something? 14:32 <@e--> i'm sure they do 14:50 <@Dolemite> Obesity has also been linked to severe cases of Covid-19. I'm fucked if I get it. 14:57 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@p200300D267311755E0B671DA8ECF8224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 14:59 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26731171904ED302DE9A522C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:05 <@Mirage> lol..the daughter of the chick who's running this meeting i'm in is apparently practicing violin. Every so often you can hear a dog howling along with her. 15:06 <@Mirage> Just about to piss myself because it's so funny 15:50 -!- rpifan_ is now known as rpifan 16:41 <@Mirage> The list of things some study has linked with covid-19 is about like the list of things the surgeon general warns about or California claims causes cancer. 16:42 <@Mirage> This thing is too new for anything definitive. What makes it all the more interesting to me is that it seems to jump species waaay more than most "normal" viruses 16:59 -!- robogoat [~robogoat@69.61.8.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:59 <@Evilpig> Mirage: lol I've yet to have anything that good on my various meetings. 18:48 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D267311755E0B671DA8ECF8224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:08 < K`Tetch> 11:16:02 «@Dolemite» Ok, I guess I'm getting bored enough that I'm now actively antagonizing the Fake Science 5G Kills people in the local town Facebook group, <-- my old business aprtner (usedto do the robot wars shows, and had a gun company with) is all on that 5g covid thing 21:09 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 21:10 < K`Tetch> ... and he works for British telecom --- Log closed Tue Apr 21 00:00:11 2020