--- Log opened Thu Apr 09 00:00:53 2020
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03:10 < K`Tetch> psssft, all yall wearing masks for sanding and stuff. next you'll be telling me you wear goggles too!
03:11 < K`Tetch> if i'm spending time int he machine shop, i want to damned well feel it, right down to the aluminium swarf in my underwear (because theres ALWAYs some that ends up there)
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07:49 < dasunt>  I hate buying a keyboard without testing it in the store, but with the rona, I just had to order a bluetooth one off of amazon.
08:05 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:07 <@dc0de> dasunt: which model did you buy?
08:07  * dc0de hugs Dolemite, and pushes aestetix out of the way.
08:08 <@Dolemite> Woo woo!   They're fighting over me, now!
08:18 < dasunt>  dc0de: Just a $20 one off Amazon.
08:19 < dasunt> If it sucks, I'll return it.
08:21 < dasunt> I need a better monitor now.
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08:25 < xray> dasunt: I use a 55 inch 4K TV as a monitor. It is the same as having 4 x 27 inch 1080P monitors with just one monitor port used.
08:26 <@Dolemite> Man, the animation for The Simpsons is getting hyper realistic, these days.
08:26 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfR3esYfx6s&feature=emb_logo
08:26 < PigBot> The Simpsons Social Distancing Intro (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/um6udk5
08:39 < dasunt> Kind of thinkng of using a 31.5" 1440p monitor for home.
08:40 < dasunt> I think that should be enough to do a horizontal split for two windows, but not overwhelm my working area.
08:41 < xray> I have the TV on a rolling stand that sits behind my desk with the feet underneath.
08:54 < dasunt> I have a very small house, so I'll probably wall mount the monitor in a corner.
08:57 < dasunt> I'll probably use something like this for a desk:  https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/bjursta-wall-mounted-drop-leaf-table-brown-black-80217524/
08:57 < PigBot> BJURSTA Wall-mounted drop-leaf table - brown-black - IKEA (at www.ikea.com) http://tinyurl.com/qpjfrp5
10:01 <@dc0de> This is what I bought... https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/idasen-desk-sit-stand-black-dark-gray-s79280998/
10:01 < PigBot> IDÅSEN Desk sit/stand - black, dark gray - IKEA (at www.ikea.com) http://tinyurl.com/sh99bok
10:02 <@dc0de> best spend ever...
10:02 <@dc0de> Worth every penny
10:02 <@dc0de> Solid, stable, reliable... <---- and that's coming from dc0de... who destroys everyting he touches...
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10:13 < dasunt> I do not have the space for that desk.
10:20 <@dc0de> dasunt: they make smaller ones...
10:20 <@dc0de> if you get the legs for that desk, you can put a smaller top on it...
10:20 <@dc0de> or purchase a smaller sit/stand.
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10:40 < dasunt> I need something that I can store away.
10:41 < dasunt> My house is very small.
10:41 < dasunt> Think IKEA-example apartment size.
10:51 < rpifan> lol
10:51 < rpifan> i live in 8sq meter
10:55 < dasunt>  I'm at 37 square meters.
10:57  * dasunt does the math, discovers that rpifan lives in a 8x10 cell.  Spacious!
10:57 < rpifan> nice
10:57 < rpifan> well its what i rent into the room
10:57 < rpifan> but the apartment is hared
10:57 < rpifan> so i have a bathroom and kithcne
10:59 < dasunt> My wife and I have an entire house.
11:00 < rpifan> nice
11:00 < rpifan> an entire 37 meter hose?
11:00 < rpifan> house
11:00 < dasunt> Yep.
11:00 < dasunt> Huh, according to Wikipedia, prison cells are 12 sq m.
11:00 < dasunt> Have you considered committing crimes in Switzerland to get a free housing upgrade?
11:01 < rpifan> lol
11:01 < rpifan> ive considered commiting crimes in germany
11:01 < rpifan> so i can stay here
11:01 < dasunt> German cells look nice:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_cell#/media/File:Haftraum.JPG
11:01 < PigBot> Prison cell - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/hpjfelx
11:03 <@opticron> dasunt, is that a town house or something?
11:04 < dasunt> opticron: Stand alone house.
11:04 < dasunt> LOL, from the Wikipedia article on prison cells "A limited number of United States prisons offer upgrades. Costing around $100 a night, these cells are considered cleaner and quieter, and some of them offer extra facilities."
11:04 < dasunt> Some prisoners are more equal than others, it seems.
11:09 <@opticron> that's fucky
11:09 <@opticron> and I hate it
11:27 <@Evilpig> dasunt: haha
11:36 < dasunt> Every business who has their employees working from home and doing conference calls should have an anonymous voting system on who needs a headset upgrade.
11:38 <@Evilpig> I was robot man yesterday according to my coworkers
11:38 <@Evilpig> stupid skype
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12:13 <@opticron> dasunt, I'd like to extend that to "teleconferencing upgrade"
12:13 <@opticron> to encompass shitty home internet or network
12:13 <@opticron> my technical lead has a crappy home network setup
12:14 <@opticron> and so he's going over shoddy wireless with some horrible repeater in the way
12:14 <@opticron> and is throwing jitter and dropped packets all over the place
12:16 <@dc0de> anyone bored? watch me work.
12:16 <@dc0de> https://meet.jit.si/hangoutwithsomeinterestingpeople
12:16 < PigBot> Jitsi Meet (at meet.jit.si) http://tinyurl.com/vn9n9al
12:25 <@e--> do you rename your jitsi id every other day
12:25 <@e--> is this like seo for chat
12:41 <@dc0de> e--: mostly, yes... because I can...
12:42 <@dc0de> if you just keep hxxps://meet.jit.si/ as your base, you can add anything you want to the end and instantly start a meeting.
12:42 <@dc0de> hxxps://meet.jit.si/se2600 for example.
12:43 <@dc0de> which I just joined.
12:43 <@dc0de> and if you want to add a Password, so that only people here can use it... you can... just share the PW here...
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12:45 <@dc0de> You are invited to join a meeting.
12:45 <@dc0de> Join the meeting:
12:45 <@dc0de> https://meet.jit.si/se2600
12:45 <@dc0de> To join by phone instead, tap this: +1.512.402.2718,,2248261547#
12:45 <@dc0de> Looking for a different dial-in number?
12:45 < PigBot> Jitsi Meet (at meet.jit.si) http://tinyurl.com/tlb5mkz
12:45 <@dc0de> See meeting dial-in numbers: https://meet.jit.si/static/dialInInfo.html?room=se2600
12:45 <@dc0de> If also dialing-in through a room phone, join without connecting to audio: https://meet.jit.si/se2600#config.startSilent=true
12:45 < PigBot> Jitsi Meet (at meet.jit.si) http://tinyurl.com/slpxxtn
12:45 < PigBot> Jitsi Meet (at meet.jit.si) http://tinyurl.com/tlb5mkz
12:45 <@dc0de> see, easy peasy...
12:45 <@dc0de> now if I leave the meeting, it dissolves, and someone else can spin it up again, and again and again...
12:46 <@dc0de> without a password
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13:28 < rpifan> thats quite nice dasunt
13:28 < rpifan> i was in jail twice
14:34 <@Dolemite> Everybody have a good Easter weekend, not that you can go anywhere.
14:35 <@dc0de> oh, it's easter?
14:37 < rpifan> yes everythign in germany is now double shut down
14:37 <@e--> yea you can take out your butt plugs on sunday
14:38 <@e--> i'm just assuming you all have your baby jesus butt plugs
14:38 < rpifan> does anyone know if aestetix actually exists
14:46 <@dc0de> aestetix is an autonomous system.  Has been for as long as I've know aestetix.
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15:48 <@_NSAKEY> e--: And replace them with this? https://www.amazon.com/The-Dongald/dp/B01N4MSCQY
15:48 < PigBot> Robot Check (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/t2v5hdt
15:50 <@e--> without clicking that i will say yes
15:50 <@_NSAKEY> It's the world's best bottle opener.
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16:02 < dasunt> I'll have to say that VSCode is annoying as fuck after coding in vim for years.
16:03 <@_NSAKEY> As someone who prefers sed to vim and especially vi, I also hate VSCode (Or VSCodium, if you want to roll with a pure open source version).
16:03 <@_NSAKEY> "Modern" text editors all seem to suffer from the same type of UX brain damage.
16:03 < dasunt> It's just fucking annoying.
16:04 < dasunt> And unfortunately with VDIs, I can't even entertain the thought of throwing the whole damn computer out of the window.
16:05 < dasunt> Do modern coders program like this?
16:07 <@e--> here's a few shortcuts to learn in vscode
16:07 <@e--> select a block of code, hit tab and shift-tab
16:07 <@e--> select a block, hit ctrl+/ a few times
16:08 <@e--> put the cursor on a line, press shift-alt-up or down
16:08 <@e--> thats all i know so far
16:08 <@e--> also set your shell to git bash and copy activate to the Scripts folder
16:08 <@e--> then you can use vi inside vs code
16:09 < dasunt> I'm going have to figure out the approval process for software at the new job.
16:09 <@e--> if you install Git for Windows you get bash, ssh, vim
16:10 <@_NSAKEY> There's also Cygwin, which might be on your new company's pre-approved list. That's how I got out of using putty at my current gig.
16:10 < dasunt> Hmmmmm.
16:10 <@e--> now just be happy you're not suffering coding React and be quiet
16:11 <@e--> dont use cygwin, git for windows has all the essentials
16:11 < dasunt> 15 minutes in, and I want Vodka.
16:11 <@_NSAKEY> If it didn't have a multi-month approval process, I'd be down.
16:11 <@_NSAKEY> But it does, so I went with the easy choice.
16:12 <@_NSAKEY> I've never used Git for Windows, but I don't doubt that it's superior.
16:14 <@_NSAKEY> !
16:14 <@_NSAKEY> I decided to check, and it looks like I can install it, because someone with more time jumped througth the flaming loops. Maybe this will remove some pain in my life.
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17:01  * dasunt watches a tutorial on vscode just to see if there's some sanity to be found.
17:02 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: git for windows isn't bad
17:02 <@Evilpig> I had to write install guides for linux,mac,windows for folks to use our gitlab environment
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