--- Log opened Wed Mar 11 00:00:05 2020 03:50 -!- eryc [emiller@unaffiliated/internetjanitor] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:52 -!- eryc [emiller@unaffiliated/internetjanitor] has joined #se2600 03:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o eryc] by ChanServ 06:36 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 06:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 06:48 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:58 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 06:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 07:02 <@dc0de> last call on Whoremail... 08:15 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:49 -!- cordless [cordless@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-roerzfhdflfdyogw] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:59 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:00 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 09:00 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 09:00 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 09:25 -!- cordless [cordless@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-uizvkhskacrcxtmt] has joined #se2600 10:19 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 10:19 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 10:19 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 10:23 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:40 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26705AD199B88977FDE82FF66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 11:06 <@Dolemite> Man it sure is quiet in here, today. Did you all catch COVID-19? 11:17 <@dc0de> yes 11:17 * dc0de coughs all over the room 11:17 <@dc0de> what doesn't kill you, make it stronger! 11:19 <@Corydon76> It's meeting day, because I thought I would be traveling tomorrow. So, in a way, yes, it's COVID-19's fault. 11:21 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 11:21 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 11:21 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 11:22 -!- dc0de1 [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 11:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de1] by ChanServ 11:24 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:39 -!- dc0de1 [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:40 < xray> I'm in the COVID-19 high risk category. According to the CDC I should not go out unless absolutely necessary. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/high-risk-complications.html 11:40 < PigBot> People at Risk for Serious Illness from COVID-19 (at www.cdc.gov) http://tinyurl.com/vvcx9et 11:40 < xray> Which means no DC404 and BSides Atl. Nuts 11:41 < rpifan> well 11:41 < rpifan> i have hiv 11:41 < rpifan> and cancer 11:41 < rpifan> but that seems to not be high risk 11:41 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 11:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 11:42 < xray> rpifan: Sorry to hear that. I'm old, asthma, additional immune system issues, and cancer. 11:43 < rpifan> its ok 11:43 < rpifan> doesnt bother me very much 11:43 < rpifan> but its weird that im not high risk 11:43 < xray> I thought HIV meant you immune system issues. 11:43 < xray> you have 11:44 <@Corydon76> rpifan: depends upon which drugs you're on for HIV. 11:44 < xray> Ah 11:44 <@Corydon76> If you're on a protease inhibitor, you're probably in the best shape of all of us. 11:45 <@Corydon76> Preliminary reports are that protease inhibitors are effective against COVID-19, specifically in lowering viral load 11:45 < xray> Well that is an unexpected bonus. 11:46 <@Corydon76> It's not yet clear whether some of the other HIV drugs are effective against COVID-19, like reverse transcriptase inhibitors 11:46 < rpifan> im on biktarvy 11:46 < xray> I have bad back issues that make it hard for me to walk/stand so going out is an issue anyway. 11:47 < xray> So I telecommute full time. 11:48 <@Corydon76> rpifan: you're probably safe. That drug cocktail includes an integrase inhibitor. 11:48 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@p54AC555C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 11:48 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26705AD199B88977FDE82FF66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:49 <@Corydon76> xray: I thought it was interesting that HIV was no a comorbidity factor for COVID-19, and then I learned that HIV drugs were among those which are being studied in current patients. 11:50 <@Corydon76> Might be those with HIV in China just happened to be fine, even though they had been exposed to the virus, and doctors decided to test their existing drugs on COVID-19 patients 11:52 < rpifan_> who knows 11:52 -!- rpifan_ is now known as rpifan 11:52 < rpifan> its a mix of stuff 11:52 <@Corydon76> Understanding why it works and understanding how it works are two different things. 11:53 <@Corydon76> I'm curious about the second. The first is sufficient, though. 11:55 < xray> There are some interesting off label uses for drugs. For instance, Lidoderm patches help relieve deep tissue joint and muscle pain. The patches contain Lidocaine which is a topical anesthetic and should not work in this case, but it does. Doctors don 11:56 < xray> don't know why or how it works but they prescribe it for this issue anyway. 11:56 <@Corydon76> Given a large enough population, there will likely always be people whose drugs for existing treatments are inhibitory against a novel disease, and finding those cases may be key to arresting an epidemic. 11:57 < xray> Lidoderm is part of my pain protocol. 11:57 <@Corydon76> Assuming there's an existing drug effective against the new disease, that is 11:57 < xray> Corydon76: Communication the findings in all the chaos is a problem. 11:58 <@Corydon76> China has appeared to have figured it out, though 11:59 <@Corydon76> That should scare us the worst about them. Not the Communism, but the chances that they'll become hypercompetent in all fields. 11:59 < xray> Their political bull is different than our political bull. 12:00 <@Corydon76> Also the chances that the government's tendency towards authoritarianism is properly tempered against that hypercompetency. 12:00 <@Corydon76> Their authoritarianism is what scares me the least, because it tends to put the brakes on innovation. 12:01 < rpifan> i tried the chili pepper patch 12:01 < rpifan> for my pain 12:01 < rpifan> i didnt find it too helpful 12:01 <@Corydon76> Consequently, the current administration's slide towards idolatry of Our Dear Leader is also what scares me the most. 12:01 < rpifan> i have found the electroshock stuff good for my neck pain tho 12:08 -!- dc0de1 [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 12:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de1] by ChanServ 12:12 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:12 < xray> You have a TENS unit. 12:13 < xray> I find ice therapy helps 12:13 < xray> I have a cryotherapy unit. 12:24 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 12:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 12:25 -!- dc0de1 [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:34 -!- dc0de1 [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 12:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de1] by ChanServ 12:35 <@dc0de1> bouncy bouncy 12:38 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:40 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@62.55.240.54] has joined #se2600 12:43 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p54AC555C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:47 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@62.55.240.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:56 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 12:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 12:59 -!- dc0de1 [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59 -!- dc0de1 [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 13:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de1] by ChanServ 13:03 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:04 -!- dc0de1 is now known as dc0de 13:18 <@Evilpig> Mirage!!! you lucky devil! https://tinyurl.com/ra5bo98 13:18 < PigBot> None (at tinyurl.com) https://tinyurl.com/ra5bo98 13:27 <@Evilpig> Effective immediately, in response to the Corona Virus, all non-essential (your job does not require you to be on-site) VUMC IT staff must work from home until further notice. Health IT is implementing a similar policy. 13:27 <@Evilpig> More details coming soon; please let me know if you have any questions. 13:33 < xray> Well that is interesting' 13:34 < xray> The notice about working from home 13:49 <@Evilpig> I was already working from home, heh 13:55 <@Mirage> Evilpig: WFH local != WFH remote 13:56 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Ah..link wasn't related. (Work laptop blocks all the URL shorteners, so had to check from another machine) 13:57 <@Mirage> The font on that poster is kinda of terrible 14:07 <@Mirage> Anyone in here used Flonase and had problems with it? 14:07 <@Evilpig> Mirage: that shit used to give me bad nose bleeds 14:08 <@Mirage> Gives me headache, sore/constricted throat, tight chest.. 14:08 <@Mirage> Wondering if I should try a different nasal spray or if they will likely all be like that for me. 14:09 <@Evilpig> definitely try another 14:09 <@Evilpig> if I get that crap sprayed to where it drips into my throat it will make it sore too 14:09 <@Mirage> Are you using a different spay now? Which? 14:12 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 14:12 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 14:12 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 14:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:19 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 14:19 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 14:19 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 14:22 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:28 <@Evilpig> some generic for flonase I think 14:28 <@Mirage> OTC or Prescription? 14:28 <@Evilpig> otc 14:28 <@Evilpig> fluticasone propionate 14:29 <@Mirage> OK. I think I'm going to try Nasacort and see how it works out. Completely different active ingredient. 14:30 <@Evilpig> I've also resorted to just using it when I can't breathe at all instead of daily like I was prescribed 14:30 <@Evilpig> that seems to have cut down on the irritation factor 14:32 <@eryc> I suggest Afrin 14:36 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 14:36 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 14:36 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 14:39 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:40 <@Mirage> eryc: Based on what I've read, I don't think Afrin is the right choice for the application. 14:40 <@Mirage> Thanks for the suggestion, though 14:40 <@eryc> k, i've used it and it works well 14:40 <@eryc> what's the application? 14:43 <@Mirage> Not just fighting congestion. OTC/Prescription allergy pills don't work worth a shit on me anymore, so the only option is either try to find a nasal spray that works as a replacement, or continue having to take a combination of Allegra/Claratin/Zyrtec and bolster it with Benadryl when things get really bad. I don't have season allergies, mine are year-round 14:45 <@Mirage> My "normal" allergy symptoms are about the same as my wife's "please kill me now" symptoms 15:58 <@Corydon76> Mirage: sounds like you might need to go on some sort of nasal corticosteroid. 15:59 <@dc0de> I have used flonase for the last decade, and now have switched to nasacort. 15:59 <@Corydon76> Same basic idea as what asthmatics use: steroidal drugs help reduce inflammation. 16:32 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 16:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 16:44 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxequggfbvyiuyaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxhueuugtignhjok] has joined #se2600 17:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o EnabrinTain] by ChanServ 18:44 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 18:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 19:17 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 19:17 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 19:17 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 19:20 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:45 < dasunt> Jobs that say "run far away" between the lines: 22:45 < dasunt> https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1770202888/?alertAction=markasviewed&savedSearchAuthToken=1%26AQHXQ8xxozjTuQAAAXDLrFkiOniQoVkztqiwBFUN2iG406UaxkZZHK4LH4VRRkCzukG0v-2C6Tj4PdtZDO26H7zCbkDpPh9eiK1PrwX-bT7O6ml1bTT41suJge5UbKTFGV-4a6bVyeYMJtgJb4_lhTKfhUbCsOLzAAYjMZsrJ4cJO9wpcEiovQOu1lk27fR4dFdJ3QY27bBTUZ9fCYEh_dqTSsjkZptYon1QFoWwGdETwsxlzxkgz_QWeKx-1m35HKmNaApHbHq4vAKMMTaZZRrjc637sEq7lwYeOM2fHuVzsRFEoF5CWOY%2 22:45 < PigBot> 400 22:45 < dasunt> 6AU_gJ6qVy8lRWvzYPBssJk7T4dRz&savedSearchId=629138134&refId=7990ae39-60b8-49d5-9582-c2c0a11a5ee2&trk=eml-job-alert-member-details&midToken=AQFW0f1GtiTijA&trkEmail=eml-email_job_alert_single_02-null-8-null-null-530f0r%7Ek7nvvuwr%7Eqy-null-jobs%7Eview 22:45 < dasunt> Ugh. 22:46 < dasunt> Less spammy: https://bit.ly/2vXoOCI 22:46 < PigBot> LinkedIn Login, Sign in | LinkedIn (at bit.ly) 22:47 < dasunt> $30k/year for "system administrator" --- Log closed Thu Mar 12 00:00:06 2020