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06:07 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:08 <@Dolemite> dasunt: buy low, sell high
06:08 <@Dolemite> There's your webinar
06:17 <@Dolemite> UGH.   Web people.   Them: "Where do I go to make a backup (using a plugin within Wordpress) of my site if it isn't in production, yet?"  Me:  "Whatever your dev site URL is."
06:33 <@Evilpig>  /admin/
06:34 <@Evilpig> oh wait my bad /wp-admin/
06:35 <@Dolemite> THANKS
06:38 <@Evilpig> wow, so the only reason this mcdonalds monopoly thing got found out was because this woman didn't want to pay the taxes on some cash she got bilked out of
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09:08 <@Dagmar> People don't like mysqldump anymore I guess
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09:15 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: If that's in reference to my statement earlier - Wordpress isn't 100% contained in MySQL.
09:16 <@Corydon76> dasunt: The irony about the Vanguard webinar is that they advertised before the stock market started tanking.
09:17 <@Corydon76> I went to the first one scheduled, which occurred at the end of a very bad week, but was scheduled a week before the market started tanking.
09:17 <@Dolemite> I bought into some historically strong dividend stocks while they are at a bargain.
09:18 <@Dolemite> It's more exciting than blackjack
09:18 <@Corydon76> I'm buying every 2 weeks, as per my 401k.
09:18 <@Dagmar> Does it take a rocket scientist to realize that maybe the files in the webroot might need backing up?
09:18 <@Dagmar> I mean come on
09:19 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: only the asset files would need backing up, if you're using off-the-shelf Worthlesspress.
09:19 <@Dagmar> No shit
09:19 <@Dolemite> But I also don't give the Web dingalings access to the filesystem
09:20 <@Dagmar> In which case all they really need is mysqldump and access to someone smart enough to remember what they click-installed
09:20 <@Dolemite> They can only access it through a GitLab reository, and then for only the things they are supposed to touch (themes and plugins).
09:21 <@Dagmar> Hopefully they'll be sentient enough to understand the files they put in there might need to be backed up
09:21 <@Dolemite> So when they want to migrate the site to an off-site service, they have to use their plugin.
09:22 <@Dolemite> IDGAF at this point since they decided to migrate Wordpress to an off-site cloud service because they actually believed that said service would not only keep their sites updated, but make sure that plugins don't break their sites, for only $15/month.
09:22 <@Dagmar> lol
09:23 <@Corydon76> rofl.  Maybe... if they were an Indian center from 20 years ago.
09:23 <@Dolemite> Devs even believe that the service will perform regression testing on all of their sites
09:23 <@Corydon76> lol
09:24 <@Dolemite> So I'm keeping my Jenkins jobs in place, just disabling them, until such time as everything migrates back
09:24 <@Corydon76> India is cheap... but they're not THAT cheap
09:24 <@Dolemite> and the gitlab runners
09:27 <@Dolemite> The Wordpress "devs" are some of the worst prima donas I've ever dealt with
09:28 <@Dolemite> They constantly tried to throw me under the bus for not doing their job for them.
09:30 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: on another topic, are you following the news about Vanderbilt?
09:31 <@Corydon76> 1 day after the students returned from spring break, 2 students have tested positive for coronavirus, and the announcement out of the administration looks like the perfect case of "we don't know what the fuck to do"
09:33 <@Corydon76> They've ostensibly canceled in-person classes and registered student group activities, but there's nothing about whether the dining hall is still serving food.  If they are, it's a bigger risk than classrooms.  If it isn't, then on-campus students are SOL for food.
09:34 <@Dagmar> Things have been moving pretty damn quickly
09:35 <@Corydon76> It honestly looks like, "Oops, we forgot about a pretty big detail."
09:35 <@Dagmar> WEll, you saw the White House press briefing
09:35 <@Dagmar> Everything's been contained and there's nothing to worry about
09:35 <@Dolemite> I saw your FB post about the cafeterias
09:37 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: one of the people at my office remarked about the Trump's payroll tax cut.  A lot of good that's going to do for people who are paid hourly and need to stay home if they're sick.
09:37 <@Dagmar> Someone thought Trump _wasn't_ a fucking moron?
09:37 <@Corydon76> Doesn't matter if the government is taking a lesser percentage of $0.
09:38 <@Corydon76> UBI might fix it, but I don't think there's a chance in hell of the Senate supporting that.
10:16 <@Mirage> This doesn't surprise me one bit.. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-us-cases-journalists-covid-19-white-house-a9389566.html
10:16 < PigBot> Coronavirus: ‘Terrified’ Trump fears journalists will deliberately get disease to pass it on to him, report claims | The Independent (at www.independent.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/wnsjkgk
10:17 <@Mirage> Not that he ever acts paranoid or makes any statements about everyone being out to get him...  lol
10:19 <@Dolemite> Well he's supposedly a germaphobe to begin with, so now he's just ratcheted up to 11.   However he'll never miss an opportunity to take a dig at the press.
10:22 <@Mirage> Ugh, chick representing the apartment complex that's being built on the secondary street my house is on just came by to inform us via a flyer that they are buying (or more likely have bought) the 13-acre horse pasture directly at the end of my street and intend on building more apartments on it as well.
10:23 <@Mirage> So much for a nice quiet neighborhood.
10:24 <@Mirage> The open area they are building in now (4.5 acres) and the horse pasture were our buffers between the other apartments already to the south of us.
10:24 <@Dagmar> GO bury some ancient indian artifacts in the middle of the field
10:28 <@Corydon76> Mirage: the developer who lives in my parents neighborhood intentionally bought forest in his neighborhood to prevent it from being developed.  It's the only certain way to ensure that undeveloped land stays that way.
10:28 <@Evilpig> got my replacement drive.  let the week long rebuild begin!
10:28 <@Evilpig>       [>....................]  recovery =  0.0% (1856996/7809204544) finish=7584.2min speed=17156K/sec
10:30 <@Mirage> When all the work initially got started we all thought it was city parks doing it because they are doing $35m worth of work across the street along the east side of the creek that runs through the park.  Before they started that project all the trails and such were only on the west side in that area of the park.
10:31 <@Mirage> As far as an apartment goes, it's a great location because it's right across the street from the city park..just sucks that it's 1 block from my house as well.
10:31 <@Dagmar> You can block a creek to repeatedly flood an area
10:31 <@Dagmar> No one's building behind our house, unless their design plan involves stilts or bringing in 38 tons of filler
10:31 <@Mirage> The flooding happens further down in the "valley"...we're on the northern upslope.
10:32 <@Dagmar> Maybe so, maybe not
10:32 <@Dagmar> You remmeber how Antioch was in the 90's
10:32 <@Mirage> Dolemite thought the same thing at his old house in Smyrna.. then they came back in and built a house in between he and his (previous) neighbor
10:33 <@Dagmar> They had a serious problem with blocked storm drains, so when it rained hard, everything was routed to the drain system that ran down Nolensville Road
10:33 <@Dagmar> At least ten times I saw storm drains that were ripped right out of the street as a six foot column of water rushed straight up
10:34 <@Dagmar> Where Dru and I lived if it rained hard, there would be six inches of flowing water going past the house because there was no working drainage for the five square miles upslope
10:34 <@Dagmar> Get chew some GIS maps and plot some sehsn
10:34 <@Dagmar> er shens
10:35 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: Ah, yes, that was the place where it would flow through the backdoor, right?
10:35 <@Dagmar> Yep
10:35 <@Corydon76> Right off the hill
10:35 <@Mirage> That's how Wichita, KS was original designed.  No storm drains.  Instead each neighborhood section was graded such that all the E/W streets drained to the central N/S street, which drained to the storm creeks, then to the river.
10:35 <@Dagmar> I'd come home and start trenching around the back of the house to keep it from flooding
10:35 <@Corydon76> If the owner was smart, he would have landscaped the back to prevent that.
10:36 <@Corydon76> But oh well
10:36 <@Mirage> In a heavy rain some of those N/S streets would have 4-6 feet of water running down them
10:36 <@Dagmar> It _was_ halfway landscaped for that
10:36 <@Dagmar> Just that water only flows so fast through ground where grass has been allowed to grow up
10:36 <@Corydon76> It needed a big stone wall to stop the flow, though
10:37 <@Corydon76> Or divert, rather
10:37 <@Dagmar> It needed Metro to fix the massive upslope drainage problem
10:37 <@Dagmar> The creek all that water was headed to via nature was just across the street from us
10:37 <@Corydon76> I've learned with this house that you don't stop water... at best, you simply find another path for it to go
10:38 <@Dagmar> Noah and Cassie had no problems at all when they were there, because Metro got those other storm sewers unblocked
10:38 <@Dagmar> ...aand the storm drains on Nolensville stopped erupting from the street
10:39 <@Corydon76> Speaking of which, I need to spend some time and finish up the sump pump project.
10:40 <@Mirage> The house we had by Nolensville & Old HIckory/Bell had a creek running through the back side of the lot that the city had come in and either built stone walls around to keep from eroding or put in the rock cages.   It helped, but wasn't perfect.  The section of creek we had was 5-6 feet deep and would fill almost completely at times.
10:40 <@Corydon76> Mirage: yeah, that failed in 2010
10:41 <@Dagmar> THe buried the part directly across the street from us on Ocala
10:41 <@Corydon76> I was downstream of there in 2010, and the creek made it to within 10 feet of the house
10:41 <@Mirage> Corydon76: we bought it in 2010 or 2011
10:42 <@Corydon76> Flooded the outbuilding and damaged my lawnmower, which was a foot off the ground.
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11:56 < dasunt> The WH says that Trump has not been tested for Covid-19 because of CDC guidelines despite having brief contact with infected people.
12:01 <@rhia> Because listening to WHO guidleines is globalist elitism? Oh, right, they refused the WHO tests because . . . *shrug*
12:02 <@Dolemite> because SCIENCE IS GARBAGE
12:02 <@dc0de> rhia: because people don't need testing.
12:02 <@rhia> gotta keep those numbers low, at least on paper
12:02 <@Dolemite> All this stuff is a hoax cooked up by the Democrats to try to hurt his re-election
12:02 <@dc0de> it's gotta be some global hoax, like climate change.
12:03 <@dc0de> erryone is in on it, 'cept 'Murica
12:03 <@rhia> and, damned, those sneaky Dems got China and Italy and the rest of the whole world to go in on the hoax
12:03 <@dc0de> yupper.
12:03 <@rhia> Trump is just that damned (SELF) important
12:04 <@Dolemite> I'm waiting for Pelosi or Schmumer to be diagnosed with it and Trump to say, "Well, I kind of like people that don't get coronovirus.  A la McCain being a POW"
12:04 <@Dolemite> er, closing quote in the wrong spot
12:05 <@dc0de> tbf, i'm waiting for Pelosi to get it so that old crony get's out of the way for a more progressive Democratic party.
12:05 <@rhia> speaking of dem conspiracies, wonder what would happen if a group of them dressed in MAGA hats to get front row of his next rally - and started having coughing fits. Expect that would make entertaining reality tv
12:06 <@dc0de> I put a tshirt idea into tshirt hell, "I went to china, and all I got was this lousy tshirt, and covid-19"
12:06 <@Dolemite> dc0de: I agree that Congress needs term limits...   just not via virus
12:06 <@Dolemite> rhia: Or sneezing without covering their mouths
12:07 <@Dolemite> Meanwhile I'm over here browsing 7 night cruises for $200/person
12:07 < dasunt> LOL!
12:07 < dasunt> Cheap cruises and flights right now.
12:08 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm looking at stuff for right after school gets out, because the slowdown is impacting those, too
12:11 < dasunt> But flights are being cancelled as well.  What about cruises?
12:11 <@Dolemite> So far they are not - the cruise lines are offering on-board credit for people not to cancel
12:35 < aestetix> dc0de: the "progressive" part of the democrats are worse than the moderates
12:43 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: let me know where we're sailing to and when we're leaving
12:46 < aestetix> Are any of you working from home now?
12:46 < aestetix> due to the coronovirus?
13:05 <@rhia> Here, but we're in western WA / Seattle area and his place of work is just out of stone's throw range from the epicenter of the outbreak here. Many corp offices in the area are telling folks to work from home if possible.
13:07 <@rhia> they're trying to slow the spread to help flatten the curve
13:16 <@Evilpig> they closed the batman building here because of a confirmed case that worked in there
13:21 <@Corydon76> Peaches got word of a middle school student had tested positive, near Trinity Lane.
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13:21 <@Corydon76> It's just going to keep ballooning from here on out.
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13:51 <@rhia> Italy is suspending mortgage payments - Trump wants to bailout hotels, gee, wonder why?
13:54 <@Corydon76> Heh
13:54 <@Corydon76> Only hotels, and not airlines and car rental companies?
13:56 <@Dolemite> I'm sure his resorts are already adding a bunch of ghost bookings that will get "cancelled due to coronavirus"
13:58 <@rhia> oh, most of the tourism industry - but oddly, not the uninsured and minimum wage folks (Yuge overlap) ... just can't quite figure out why ... hmmmm
14:42 <@rhia> and the shale companies -- and a tax cut, because nothing keeps an outbreak from becoming a pandemic like a tax cut! Tax cuts are the go-to response for everything!
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14:56 <@Dolemite> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
14:56 < PigBot> Operations Dashboard for ArcGIS (at gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com) http://tinyurl.com/qo7sou3
14:57 <@Dolemite> Based on that map, I want to go to Greenland :)
14:59 < xray> aestetix: I assume you are only interested in people working from home due to COVID-19 only?
15:20 <@dc0de> Alabama is rolling on without it.
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15:37 <@Corydon76> I wouldn't count on Alabama or Mississippi.  I have little doubt that the lack of red in that area has more to do with a lack of testing and reporting than a lack of cases.
15:40 < aestetix> xray: yes
15:40 <@Corydon76> Oh, and the dots appear to be single per-state statistics, not a detail of where in the state we have cases.  The dot in Tennessee is nowhere Memphis and is far outside of Nashville
15:42 <@opticron> just FYI, testing in AL only officially started friday with a 72hr turnaround time
15:43 <@opticron> and more than likely the first tests were sent off yesterday
17:39 <@Dagmar> Audra is starting to see what I've been sayin over and over less as smart-assery and more as fatalism
17:40 <@Dagmar> "Just as long as the dead don't begin rising to attack the living"
17:40 <@Dagmar> Italy's acting paranoid.  Iran's acting crazy.
17:41 <@Dagmar> ...but as long as it doesn't mutate into a zombie uprising, we're probably going to be okay
18:03 < xray> Assuming this is true: Italy is in a world of hurt.
18:03 < xray> https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_of_a_surgeon_working_in_bergamo_in_the/
18:03 < PigBot> Testimony of a surgeon working in Bergamo, in the heart of Italy's coronavirus outbreak : medicine (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/sd7aaus
18:10 < xray> Apparently the post is authentic
18:10 < xray> https://nypost.com/2020/03/10/italian-doctor-at-heart-of-illness-shares-chilling-coronavirus-thoughts/
18:10 < PigBot> Italian doctor at heart of coronavirus shares chilling thoughts (at nypost.com) http://tinyurl.com/sf42382
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