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14:52 <@Corydon76> Anybody know if there's a specific way to fake out a phone connected to a WAP that otherwise thinks it has no Internet?
14:52 <@Corydon76> We're conceptualizing an offline kiosk at a convention, where the Wifi is so jammed that nobody can get anything through anyway
14:53 <@Corydon76> What is it trying to do during that detection routine?
14:59 <@opticron> hmmm, you might just have to dump the packets to find out
15:00 <@opticron> I'm not sure what it hits to check
15:03 <@Mirage> ditto.  never bothered to check to see what the validation is for "internet access"
15:04 <@Dagmar> "204 check"
15:18 <@Corydon76> Apparently every vendor at a trade show thinks they should be able to get high speed Internet back to their respective offices, and, as a result, nobody can get even a textual connection over a VPN to work.
15:19 <@Corydon76> It's too bad we can't do a cantenna to a fixed point and use that as our uplink.
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17:01 <@dc0de> good evening all.... back in New England... sadly..
17:01 <@dc0de> My trip was bittersweet.
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20:44 <@Dagmar> I see that thumbs of #httpd is still a useless arse
20:44 <@Dagmar> Mirage: any ideas?  https://hastebin.com/exexowozej.md
20:44 < PigBot> hastebin (at hastebin.com) http://tinyurl.com/rrnsepu
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21:22 <@Dagmar> Finally got it.  Overtired from dealing with chaos all morning
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21:28 <@Mirage> I just started looking at it.  Had to beat on mod_security for a sec because it was blocking me trying to test the rewriterule
21:29 <@Dagmar> I was just missing the leading slash on the URI
21:29 <@Dagmar> ...and since I'd been beating on other parts of hte problem all day I was too tired to see it
21:29 <@Mirage> It *looked* right, so I figured it was something stupid, but nothing was jumping out at me
21:29 <@Dagmar> The docs leave something to be desired in mentioning that any change to the URL shown to the browser results in the entire set being evaluated again
21:30 <@Dagmar> The debug output actually double-escaped the dot in the regexp
21:30 <@Dagmar> I don't know if I want to even bother making that bug reports
21:30 <@Mirage> yeah, can get some nasty loops..ran into that from time to time on v.e w/ all those rules we had on their
21:30 <@Mirage> er, there
21:31 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I was using the L flag pretty heavy-handedly to avoid that
21:32 <@Dagmar> Especially considering that whole thing is evaluating ~140 netblocks to direct the browser to one of _many_ urls
21:32 <@Dagmar> The first couple of attempts I got that bit wrong and my debug log was ludicrous
21:32 <@Dagmar> If I didn't think Apache would be able to evaluate the -ipmatch expressions faster than my perl code I'd just direct every damn thing to /
21:34 <@Dagmar> I may still wind up doing that if I can figure out how to load an envvar for hte script to see
21:34 <@Mirage> rewritemap?
21:34 <@Dagmar> Completely unsuitable for CIDR networks
21:35 <@Dagmar> I already went down that road just to see if it was possible
21:35 <@Dagmar> As it stands I can just add a massive pile of symlinks and the script will still be able to see the relevant name and know which data files to read in
21:35 <@Dagmar> ...and this beats the holy heck out of using webdav
21:36 <@Dagmar> Ben found this thing called Tiddlywiki that we could use in some of our centers, but it is *not* safe for anything like a corporate LAN
21:36 <@Mirage> most anything does in my experience.  webdav is just slow
21:36 <@Dagmar> The simplest invocation of it is via webdav
21:36 <@Dagmar> Mirage: No, webdav is an infection vector waiting to happen.  It's not just slow
21:37 <@Dagmar> At least, the way TiddlyWiki does it it is
21:37 <@Dagmar> Like, the thing literally dumps _itself_ via DOM and Javascript back to the webserver when it updates
21:37 <@Mirage> i had it working pretty well as a web frontend for SVN before we switched to gitlab, but then I had it secured all to hell too
21:37 <@Dagmar> Elegant, if you absolutely trust there will never ever be a bad actor
21:38 <@Dagmar> For things which use webdav to store data _separately_ from the HTML and Javascript it's fine
21:38 <@Dagmar> ...but that's not how TiddlyWiki works
21:41 <@Dagmar> I stuck Bootstrap into the thing, and I'll probably yank most of it's stuff right back out as soon as I find a less ugly HTML input box
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