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03:38 < aestetix> allright so
03:38 < aestetix> if the GOP doesn't allow John Bolton to testify, I'd say it's a pretty solid case against trump
03:39 < aestetix> and if he is allowed, it is probably still pretty solid
03:39 < aestetix> who would have that that john bolton would be the one to cause trump's downfall
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07:45 < xray> Apparently Social Media and Email contribute to global warming.
07:45 < xray> The environmental cost of keeping mail and files online keeps rising
07:45 < xray> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/01/26/business/tech/email-global-warming/
07:45 < PigBot> The environmental cost of keeping mail and files online keeps rising | The Japan Times (at www.japantimes.co.jp) http://tinyurl.com/thxp6hg
07:50 <@opticron> lol "Training an AI model emits about as much carbon as the lifetime emissions associated with running five cars."
07:50 <@opticron> that is absurdly vague
07:55 < aestetix> uh
07:55 < aestetix> xray: so we should demand that Facebok and Twitter be shut down to prevent global warming?
07:55 < aestetix> I can get on board with that
07:58 <@opticron> coronavirus dashboad: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
07:58 < PigBot> Operations Dashboard for ArcGIS (at gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com) http://tinyurl.com/qo7sou3
08:01 < xray> aestetix: Or global warming advocates should be the first ones to stop using social media and email.
08:02 < xray> Sorry "anthropomorphic global warming". It is not the same thing as global warming. It is the idea that the chief cause of global warming is people.
08:19 <@Dagmar> I don't fuckin' see anyone else doin' it
08:19 < aestetix> so this means greta thunberg should delete her facebook account
08:19 < aestetix> maybe everyone else will follow suit
08:19 <@Dagmar> No, it means we should start killing spammers.
08:19 <@Dagmar> They triple the cost of email.
08:20 < aestetix> what about mining bitcoin
08:22 <@Dagmar> What about deliberately stupid questions?
08:22 <@Dagmar> Don't complain your shoes don't fit right anymore after blowing off your own foot
08:22 <@Dagmar> *mischan*
09:19 <@Corydon76> Sounds like there may be an environmental benefit to "the right to be forgotten".
09:38 < xray> Corydon76: I hadn't thought of that.
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10:26 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
10:26  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
10:27 <@Dolemite> Man, I'm all for automation tools, but when your 'automated' version of upgrading a system is 40 steps long when all you need to do is keep track of your customization in gitlab and then dump that into the install folder...    you've jumped the fucking shark.
10:29 <@Dolemite> And his way of documenting things is to explain the theory behind something, then naturally the administrative tasks would become intuitive.
10:36 <@oddball> gee... that sounds like someone that we just got rid of.
10:38 <@Dolemite> Fortunately we've moved him - and his successor, who simply kept everything complicated - out.   Unfortunately the task of decomplicating this shit was given to me.   But I have poked that dragon in the eye.   It's not dead, yet, but it's wounded.
10:38 <@oddball> actual converation I had with this guy:
10:39 <@oddball> "ok, what are you checking on a regular basis in the 365 security portal?"
10:39 <@oddball> "So, first you need to read these books, and learn this, and..."
10:39 <@oddball> "fucker, just tell me what you clicked on!"
10:39 <@Dolemite> No shit
10:49 < aestetix> oddball: is he a rockstart?
10:49 < aestetix> er rockstar
10:50 <@Corydon76> Heh, we had this nice long way of applying an update from a vendor when I came on.  Today, if we were still receiving the data via CD, it would be "run this script".  It's even better today, because the data all comes in via FTP, so there are no steps anymore.  It just happens.
10:53 <@Corydon76> And before you get on me about FTP, my choice was SFTP.  Vendor wouldn't support it.  So it's locked down with IP restrictions who can even see the FTP.
10:54 <@Corydon76> Made for some fun times because their test IP wasn't the same as production IP.
11:03 <@oddball> aestetix: according to him, he is.
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11:41 < aestetix> oddball: ah, one of those
11:41 < aestetix> have fun with that
11:42 <@oddball> meh, his last day was a week ago, and we're better for it.
11:51 <@dc0de> happy tuesday?
11:53 < aestetix> so uh
11:53 < aestetix> do any of you know when the next rick and morty comes out?
11:55 <@dc0de> aestetix: not. soon. enough.
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13:11 <@Mirage> yay, MacGyger starts back up again next Fri
14:09 <@oddball> I've been told that that show is surprisingly good.
14:10 <@Dolemite> It's all about your expectations going into it.   I actually enjoy the new Magnum PI.   Not that's "as good as" or "better" than the original, but different.
14:10 <@Dolemite> If you expected a younger look-alike of Richard Dean Anderson, though...   well...
14:25 <@oddball> Well, I'd be confused if it was a Richard Dean Anderson look-a-like...
14:25 <@oddball> That would be MacGuyver.
14:26 <@Dolemite> Well that's what I meant in terms of expectations for MacGuyver
14:26 <@Dolemite> There can only be one Tom Selleck moustache in this world.
14:26 <@oddball> There is that
14:29 <@Dolemite> Magnum PI (original) was a solo show that occasionally pulled in the ensemble cast.   The new version has migrated to being an ensemble/team effort pretty much every episode.   Then there's the sexual tension between Magnum and Higgins (new show only).
14:35 <@Mirage> I haven't watched the new one..I'm assuming Higgins in the new one is not a saucy balding old englishman?
14:35 <@Dolemite> No, Higgins is played by Perdita Weeks.
14:44 <@Dolemite> Outta here!
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