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06:41 < aestetix> yeouch
06:41 < aestetix> Dr. Who Season 12 has a 7% rating on rottentomatoes
06:42 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:42  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:42  * Dolemite lets out a little fart
06:42 <@Dolemite> Ok, who's kidding who.   It was a giant fart
06:47 < aestetix> Ein großer Arschluft
07:11 < Evilpig_> aestetix: I was just reading how rotten tomatoes has reset the user reviews on that already.  it was at a 32% user rating before the reset
07:13 < aestetix> huh
07:13 < aestetix> it's like.... what was the other movie or show they did that on
07:13 <@Dolemite> I haven't been a fan of the new season, but I haven't decided if it's the new Doctor, or the writing/showrunner, since they changed so much at once.
07:13 < aestetix> there was some other video that rotten tomatoes basically locked with 8 critics reviews and 0 audience reviews
07:14 <@Dolemite> Justice League?
07:14 < aestetix> no idea
07:14 < Evilpig_> Dolemite:  the writing is definitely heavy handed but I don't much care for her either
07:14 <@Dolemite> I'm thinking it was one of the Marvel or DC movies
07:14 <@Dolemite> Oh, Captain Marvel
07:15 < aestetix> that might have been it
07:15 <@Dolemite> Which ended up being an awesome, kick ass movie
07:15 < aestetix> then why did it get bad reviews
07:15 < aestetix> or was it from people who hadn't seen the movie
07:15 <@Dolemite> Because some fanboys got their panties in a wad that Captain Marvel was made female
07:16 <@Dolemite> Captain Marvel was male in the original comics
07:16 < aestetix> oh
07:16 < aestetix> I mean if the acting is good and the writing works with a woman as well as a man, then I say why not
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07:17 <@Dolemite> Well throughout the history of the comics, Captain Marvel has been both men and women
07:17 <@Dolemite> It's a moniker, rather than a person
07:17 < aestetix> especially if there is a good reason to make it a female..... such as a cool new twist or something
07:17 < aestetix> well there you go
07:18 < aestetix> that sounds like people getting mad that a remake of a movie ruined their childhood movie, not realizing that their childhood movie was a remake of a remake
07:18 <@Dolemite> Pretty much
07:19 <@Dolemite> But the Marvel version of Captain Marvel is actually a copy of the DC Comic that had to be renamed to Shazam!
07:20 <@Dolemite> DC let their copyright/trademark on the name lapse and then Marvel swooped in and published Captain Marvel and was able to sue DC to keep them from using the name
07:23 < aestetix> that said
07:23 < aestetix> it seems like rotten tomatoes is falling into the same trap that twitter has fallen into
07:23 < aestetix> aka it's become a tool of the outrage economy
07:23 <@Dolemite> Humans ruin everything?
07:23 < Evilpig_> any point where you allow users to post anything that's going to happen
07:24 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7c28KhPEpo&feature=emb_logo
07:24 < PigBot> CLOSER By Nine Inch Nails Featuring the Muppets. (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/wzclwl6
07:24 < aestetix> I do wonder if the outrage issues would calm down a bit if twitter got rid of its algorithms
07:24 < aestetix> because..... someone says something racist.... someone else retweets it with a condemnation.... others retweet it too
07:24 < aestetix> then the twitter algorithm pushses it to the top
07:25 < aestetix> when the correct response would be to have it sink into oblivion where it belongs
07:25 <@Dolemite> Twitter has been garbage from day 1, but that's just my grumpy old man opinion.
07:26 < aestetix> is facebook any better?
07:26 <@Dolemite> I automatically turn off the listening receptors when I hear, "Twitter is blowing up with ...!"
07:26 <@Dolemite> Facebook trends more based upon what you actually click on and interact with
07:27 < aestetix> so it still creates an echo chamber, but not as bad
07:27 <@Dolemite> But better?   Not if you get your news from it.   It becomes an echo chamber.
07:27 <@Dolemite> But if I only interact with pictures of people on vacation and their kids and such, I get what I want.
07:28 < aestetix> well
07:28 <@Dolemite> I make it a point not to click on shared memes, because then all you're doing is feeding the machine.
07:28 < aestetix> since I left "social" media, my primary communication (besides irc) is email
07:28 <@Dolemite> But my behavior is atypical
07:28 < aestetix> and sometimes it takes a week for someon to reply to my mails
07:28 < aestetix> but that also means I don't have to think about whatever drama they are seeing on twitter
07:30 <@Dolemite> I hate that elected officials feel like they need to have a presence on social media
07:30 <@Dolemite> Whether it be Twitter, Facebook, etc.
07:30 <@Dolemite> All of it does nothing to benefit the constituency.   Only those who deal in outrage.
07:30 < aestetix> Twitter would be a lot better if one certain politican stopped using it ;)
07:31 <@Dolemite> Probably true.
07:31 <@Dolemite> And by probably, I mean 100000000000000%
07:33 <@Dolemite> Also I've gotten into the habit of browsing Facebook and Gmail in chrome, and everything else in Firefox.   Virtual firewall of tracking.
07:36 < Evilpig_> Dolemite: I do the same thing
07:36 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: That's because we r smartish
07:38 < Evilpig_> that is debatable
07:40 <@Dolemite> That's why I added the 'ish'
07:50 <@Dagmar> Wheee!  Larry's going after the NYT for defamation
07:50 <@Dagmar> It's about time someone fuckin' did something about the clickbait
07:50 <@Dagmar> They're going to lose so very hard
07:51 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I *did* request that they terminate his account for violation of the Terms
07:51 <@Dagmar> Specifically, not just making threats, but threats of _war crimes_
07:52 <@Dagmar> Maybe they should be asked to explain how he's somehow above those rules
07:52 <@Dagmar> ANYONE else saying they're going to blow up some buildings would be off the fuckin' platform before the end of the day
07:54 <@Dagmar> This is not just rhetoric
07:55 <@Dagmar> I don't think politicians should be allowed to use social media platforms to engage in war-mongering, just because they're policians
07:55 <@Dagmar> So far, that's the only excuse I can see for it, and it's not sufficient
07:56 <@Dagmar> If you want to throw a tantrum and threaten to blow up neighborhoods, you should have to pay for your own fuckin' site and bandwidth bill
08:32 < aestetix> is there a requirement that hot girls must wear perfume that makes them even hotter
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08:42 <@Dagmar> Not really, no
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11:59 < aestetix> ok steam question
11:59 < aestetix> if there is a game that says its windows only, is there any way to force it to play on linux?
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13:09 <@Dolemite> Not likely, since IIRC they already rely on WINE
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19:34 <@eryc> https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_hpsci_transmittal_letter_to_hjc_-_new_evidence_attachment.pdf
19:34 < PigBot> None (at intelligence.house.gov) http://tinyurl.com/wd2ukjq
20:07 <@Dagmar> What's the importance of that document?
20:54 <@Dagmar> LOL
20:54 <@Dagmar> Oracle just tried to upgrade my Java 1.8.0 to a version with the restrictive licence, apparently
20:54 <@Dagmar> DENIED.
20:55 <@Dagmar> ...and people want to say Linus is being paranoid about ZFS's licencing
20:55 <@Dagmar> Fuck _all_ those people, and fuck ZFS's licence
20:55 <@Dagmar> The days of submarine licencing are fuckin' over
21:24 <@opticron> yeah...linus' reasoning on not pulling ZFS into the kernel is sound even if it makes people sad. oracle is known to be a pile of dicks in any circumstances where possible and convenient
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