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06:17 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:22  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:02 <@Dolemite> Leafmaggedon happened this weekend
07:02 <@Dolemite> Although I still have at least one oak tree with a good number of leaves left on them
07:02 < aestetix> How was phreaknic btw
07:02 <@Dolemite> Dunno, wasn't there
07:02 <@Dolemite> s/them/it
07:04 <@Dolemite> My neighbor has 3 large oaks in his front yard that just dumped a huge layer of leaves all over the yard...   and the wind tends to blow from his house towards mine, so I've added some bushes in between our yards to try to catch them...
07:04 <@Dolemite> Talk about some passive aggressive gardening :)
07:04 <@Dolemite> One year I caught his daughters using a leaf blower to blow a bunch of their leaves into my yard
07:24 <@Dolemite> Also, my phone increasingly thinks I am talking to it when I say, "OK, Boomer".   I guess my "OK, Google" is close enough.
07:25 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: we have a bird named Boo-boo.  He's learned to say, "Hey Boo-boo", which triggers the Google Home device.
07:25 < aestetix> haha
07:26 < aestetix> Are there many kids named Alexa these days?
07:26 <@Corydon76> I had to remove a unit, because the Google Home has interpreted whatever he said next as a command to play music.
07:26 <@Evilpig> lol
07:27 <@Dolemite> Fortunately mine is only doing it when I have my phone in my shirt pocket, so the vibrations from my chest while I talk are what overloads the sensors.
07:28 <@Corydon76> aestetix: unfortunately, Google Home doesn't support changing the trigger phrase to, "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
07:28 < aestetix> oh man
07:28 < aestetix> that would be great
07:28 < aestetix> can you make it sing daisy when you turn it off?
07:29 <@Corydon76> However, there is an Easter egg for, "Hey, Google, open the pod bay doors"
07:29 <@Corydon76> The first part of the response is "I can't do that..."
07:31 <@Corydon76> If you ask your Google Home if it wants to build a snowman, it tells you that Frozen is old, now, and you should really Let It Go.
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08:05 < DrArkaneX> Morning Phreaks...
08:06 <@Dolemite> Sup, slacker
08:06 < DrArkaneX> lol
08:07 < DrArkaneX> btw, I ditched facebook, i'm ditching all social media
08:08 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I noticed you'd been dark for a while
08:09 <@Dolemite> My dolemite account is still banned on warmane, so no idea if you've been playing
08:09 < DrArkaneX> nah, I haven't been playing anything.  still working on coding bots for WotLK
08:10 <@Dolemite> I created another account and am leveling up an Alliance character, but it's tough without any bankroll.   I feel quite dirty from the whole experience.   I even did a global chat of "Looking for a sugar daddy so I can afford to train.  Will emote for gold."
08:10 <@Dolemite> No takers.
08:10 < DrArkaneX> lol..  did you roll a felamle toon?  :D
08:11 <@Dolemite> No, but it's a night elf, so androgenous.
08:12 < DrArkaneX> ok.. :)  I just got fed up so i'm going dark on social media after I saw that video anonymous produced a couple weeks ago, thinking about sticking to IRC and Old School BBSes
08:12 <@Dolemite> I'm tempted to login as my son, do some Level 80 dailies to build up a couple hundred gold, then put something cheap on the action house at Ratchet so his Horde character can pay 200G for it.
08:12 < DrArkaneX> yea, you can do that
08:13 <@Dolemite> I've put in a second appeal on that damn false positive bot ban
08:13 <@Dolemite> "If I were running a bot, do you think I'd be so poor and have shit gear?"
08:14 < DrArkaneX> i know warden on WotLK is kinda sketchy.  I did a little messing around on my server playing around with bots and it never caught them, so I don't see how you got popped
08:14 <@Dolemite> I don't even run a bot
08:14 <@Dolemite> That's the thing
08:14 < DrArkaneX> yea, i know, that's why i was running a farm bot program and it never detected it
08:15 <@Dolemite> Right before I got banned I was playing on a Sunday morning, before anybody else in the house was up...   network lag went through the roof and I started rubber banding all over the place.   I'm betting that's what triggered their detection.
08:16 < DrArkaneX> maybe.. that just doesn't make sense.   did you donate $10 to skip the queue?
08:16 <@Dolemite> Yeah, not only have I donated the $10 initially, I'd bought about $50 more in coins to get close to having enough gear to do heroics for one character
08:17 <@Dolemite> If they turn down this appeal I'll probably put something up on reddit to let others know they are being total dicks about false positives
08:17 < DrArkaneX> damn.. i'm sorry, i feel like I shouldn't have told ya about it
08:18 < DrArkaneX> oh yea, def. post something on reddit and warmane forums
08:18 <@Dolemite> Because when they reply to your ticket they don't even give you a chance to respond.   It's like an "our decision is final" closure and you can't appeal more than once in 30 days.
08:18 <@Dolemite> Well I can't post on their forums, either, except as my other account
08:18 <@Dolemite> So I don't want to connect those dots for them
08:19 < DrArkaneX> damn, that's almost as bad as blizzard..
08:19 <@Dolemite> But yeah, Smyth is the person that is being a dick about it
08:19 <@Dolemite> He/she claimed that they looked at the logs and it was very conclusive that I'm running a bot
08:20 <@Dolemite> So in this second appeal I said that I've never knowingly/intentionally run a bot, so to be safe I deleted the folder and redownloaded the client from their website.   I have no other add-ons.
08:22 <@Dolemite> Oh, can you make Parrotgames an occifer in the guild if you're not playing anymore?
08:22 <@Dolemite> I don't think he has the ability to add others
08:25 < DrArkaneX> ah, seems like on warmane, they don't have any detection, it's all from being reported
08:25 <@Dolemite> Really?   They had a changelog entry stating that they had changed their detection algorithm.
08:26 < DrArkaneX> yea, i can logon soon, i thought i made him an officer
08:26 <@Dolemite> And that entry was from about 3 weeks before I got banned
08:26 < DrArkaneX> https://wrobot.eu/forums/topic/8413-warmane-ban-wave/?do=findComment&comment=41612
08:26 <@Dolemite> DrArkaneX: You might have.   I just remember at least one of his characters couldn't add anybody.
08:27 <@Dolemite> That's old enough that I don't think it apples
08:27 <@Dolemite> applies
08:30 < DrArkaneX> well.. probably, but I don't think they have a warden type program up, I think they just collectivly look aat player reports
08:30 <@Dolemite> https://www.warmane.com/devlog
08:31 < DrArkaneX> "Lastly, we have upped our game against botting, the chances of being caught are greatly increased due to new detection methods, If you get caught with any kind of bot you will get a permanent ban."  I think this is fodder
08:32 < DrArkaneX> new detection methods, if you look at the newer posts on Wrobot, people are literally on Icecrown botting.. with Wrobot
08:33 < DrArkaneX> trust me, i know a bot when I see it and there are bots on warmane, i've never reported because I don't really care, but now that they've popped you, i might change my mind
08:34 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I've seen people obviously running bots - even after I got banned
08:35 <@Dolemite> I was in Western Plaguelands with P doing some quests on night...  Somebody had 15 warlock bots with them doing a Sherman's March through the map.
08:36 < DrArkaneX> well, multiboxing is one thing...
08:36 <@Dolemite> multiboxing with them all moving and attacking together isn't a bot?
08:37 <@Dolemite> I understand multiboxing, but last I checked, humans don't have 16 hands
08:37 < DrArkaneX> lol, sold out https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3950x/p/N82E16819113616?Item=N82E16819113616
08:38 <@Dolemite> Mmmmm.   Ryzen.
08:38 <@Dolemite> It's getting close to time for me to upgrade the desktop, again.   At least with a decent graphics card.
08:38 < DrArkaneX> there was some contention about whether multiboxing was consdered botting, but i think warmane changed their mind when they realized they can get more money for it
08:39 < DrArkaneX> wish I had the resources to make my own server
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08:40 < DrArkaneX> i have my server setup on my box here, but i'm double natted behind a proxy so that's a nogo
08:40 <@dc0de> Good Morning Dolemite... Hello All...
08:40 < DrArkaneX> mornin!
08:40 <@Dolemite> What all does it need in terms of resources?
08:41 <@Dolemite> And what inbound ports does it run?
08:41 < DrArkaneX> not too much, i think ram is the number one, because of 10 people are in 10 differnt areas, it has to load 10 different grids
08:42 < DrArkaneX> i think it's just 2 ports
08:42 < DrArkaneX> one for auth and one for world
08:42 <@Dolemite> Like how much RAM?
08:42 < DrArkaneX> 8gb minimum i would say for up to 1000 users
08:43 <@Dolemite> oh that's not much
08:43 <@dc0de> Radius?
08:43 < DrArkaneX> i mean, grid size ram usage is small but the more users, the more it stacks on and some zones are bigger than others
08:43 < DrArkaneX> dc0de: running a WoW server
08:44 <@dc0de> ahh... thnx
08:45 <@Dolemite> DrArkaneX: Yeah, but I recently picked up a 16 core / 64 GB R710 for $320 on eBay.
08:45 < DrArkaneX> I rloaded my box yesterday and haven't compiled my source yet.  friend of mine gave me his old thermaltake case and a 180gb SSD drive.. i'll have to say, ssd is pretty sweet
08:46 < DrArkaneX> was gonna see what the fetch times were on the wow server on the ssd
08:47 < DrArkaneX> from grub, to sddm login is 4 seconds
08:48 < DrArkaneX> dolemite: if ya ever wanna try it out.. i can compile it for ya and get it running..  at least have a local server to mess around on
08:49 < DrArkaneX> the biggest bitch is extracting the mmaps
08:49 <@Dolemite> Well I may setup a VM and let you run it there.
08:49 < DrArkaneX> yea, that's fine, i set one up on my friend's server, i think maybe you logged in, he lived in knoxville, but he's moved back to smyrna
08:50 <@Dolemite> Though without enough people on it to run a dungeon, not sure how much fun it would be
08:50 <@Dolemite> Jay
08:50 < DrArkaneX> yup
08:50 <@dc0de> How is Jay?
08:50 < DrArkaneX> ah, yea, that's where bots come in handy... :)
08:50 < DrArkaneX> i think he's doing fine, he's spending weekend in ktown getting his house ready to sell and his house won't be built until feb
08:51 < DrArkaneX> i logged on his bbs yesterday and his mom was mucking around... started randomly chatting with people.. lol
08:51 <@Dolemite> My parents put their house on the market last weekend.   Got two competing offers on it yesterday.
08:52 < DrArkaneX> Jay's been kinda stressed lately but i think he'll pull through
08:52 <@Dolemite> The market is decent in the Ktown area right now if priced correctly
08:52 < DrArkaneX> nice, i'm glad my mom sold her house in nashville back in 2011.. i hate that area now..
08:53 < DrArkaneX> rural farm living sucks ass, internet speed wise... that's the only downside
08:53 < DrArkaneX> the upside is.. no codes out here so do what you want
08:54 <@Dolemite> Well maybe that will change thanks to FUCK ELON MUSK AND HIS SAT INTERNET
08:54 < DrArkaneX> i'm in the process of epairing my subfloor..  don't eed no permit for dat
08:54 < DrArkaneX> LOL
08:54 <@Dolemite> Yeah, no HOA to deal with
08:55 < DrArkaneX> yea, elon's sat internet , i'm not very hopeful on it, hopefully, we will have 500gbit fiber running through here in the next year
08:55 < DrArkaneX> 500mbit
08:55 <@Dolemite> I'm in some astrophotgraphy groups and while I can't afford to capture at the level many of the folks in there do, you can see that his network is fucking up Deep Sky Object imaging
08:56 < DrArkaneX> LOL, well, the sats aren't that big, they're like 2 or 3 feet cubed
08:56 < DrArkaneX> but i guess strecthed out and enmasse, it could be a problem
08:56 < DrArkaneX> is he going for a dyson sphere?  lol
08:57 <@Dolemite> Well with DSO photography, you are focusing in on a very narrow patch of sky with extremely long exposure times
08:57 <@Dolemite> People spend thousands of dollars just on the tracking mounts.   That's before they buy cameras and lenses.
08:57 < DrArkaneX> yea.. i've messed around with that, not DSO but experimented with DSO
08:58 <@Dolemite> I have a cheap tracker and haven't had much chance to play with it.   Farragut has too much light pollution.   Need to start going out to the Cherohala Skyway on some clear nights to give it a try.
08:58 < DrArkaneX> just put my dslr camera on the ground and shutter open for 30 min on a clear dark no moon night
08:59 <@Dolemite> You'll just get star trails that way
08:59 < DrArkaneX> where i live, you can see the milky way..
08:59 <@Dolemite> Yeah, you need to do < 30s exposures, but lots of them, and then stack the images
09:00 <@Dolemite> You can make a pretty cheap barn door tracker if you want to get redneck fancy
09:00 < DrArkaneX> i live right between nashville and huntsville, on a clear moonless night, the sky is incredible
09:00 < DrArkaneX> shiiit i like redneck fancy... :D
09:00 <@Dolemite> Yeah, you get into the mountains on the TN/NC border and it's gorgeous
09:01 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hqXqqTtWzU&t=21s
09:01 <@Dolemite> Some folks then get fancier and connect an arduino or raspberry pi to regulate a DC motor to turn the crank
09:02 < DrArkaneX> aye, i ve seen that before. def. doable
09:04 < DrArkaneX> yea, in that video, he's setting his ISO to 1600.. that's a bit high
09:04 <@Dolemite> The one I have is not electronic, it's an "egg timer" style.    You crank a spring and it rotates for you.
09:05 < DrArkaneX> higher the ISO the grainier the shot is gonna be
09:05 <@Dolemite> Depends on the camera hardware
09:05 < DrArkaneX> film is too sensitive, i've xperimented with different ISOs.  100 ISO is def. tricky as hell but man the pictures turn out really good
09:06 <@Dolemite> This is the one I bought
09:06 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPDTwUgmvfE
09:06 < DrArkaneX> i get t the point where 800ISO is too much
09:07 < DrArkaneX> oh yea, i've seen those before, ballin on a budget... :D
09:07 <@Dolemite> That's me!
09:07 < DrArkaneX> now, mix that with a dobsonian telescope...  oh yea
09:08 <@Dolemite> I have a 150mm newtonian on an Alt/Az goto mount
09:08 <@Dolemite> er, sorry, 130mm
09:09 < DrArkaneX> https://www.amazon.com/Orion-8945-SkyQuest-Dobsonian-Telescope/dp/B001DDW9V6
09:09 <@Dolemite> Of course, Dobsonian refers to the mount, not to the telescope
09:09 <@Dolemite> It's still a Newtonian reflector
09:11 < DrArkaneX> makes it a bit easier for astrophotography.. rigging up some motors wouldn't be a problem
09:18 < DrArkaneX> i got a new mount for my camera, i need to find my remote for my camera.. dunno where it is
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09:30 < DrArkaneX> Dolemite: https://i.imgur.com/fPIgqF6.jpg  400ISO 4 sec exposure
09:37 < DrArkaneX> Dolemite: we're also about 1100 feet above sea level too along the southern rim, not as high as the smokies but clear nights offers pectacular views
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10:20 <@Dolemite> DrArkaneX: The darkest sky I've seen was out West near the Grand Tetons National Park.   Absolutely amazing.
10:22 < DrArkaneX> yea, same here. first drive to west coast for me, stopped somewhere in AZ along i40.. looked up and was amazing, it was about 2am right on i40
10:23 <@opticron> I was driving that route on a cloudy night through texas/OK last thanksgiving
10:23 <@opticron> going through the wind farms with no light pollution is surreal
10:23 <@Dolemite> Eastern ID/Western MT is just gorgeous in terms of dark skies
10:24 <@opticron> they each have a blinking light on them and because they're all grid-connected, the blinks are synchronized
10:24 <@opticron> kind of creepy
11:10 < xray> PIA VPN was bought out by a company that has a track record of including adware in it's products. PIA has a proven court track record of not keeping logs. It is not known what they new owner's policies will be. Just a heads up if you are using PIA VPN.
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12:39 < DrArkaneX>  I was a PIA user a few years ago, thanks for the info
12:39 < rpifan> hi
12:39 < DrArkaneX> supp
12:42 < xray> Apparently PIA's new parent company is sketchy.
12:42 < rpifan> u mean fednodes sketchy
12:43 < xray> Not sure who fednodes is?
12:43 < xray> https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivateInternetAccess/comments/dym639/pia_being_purchased_by_cyberghost/
12:44 < xray> PIA used to be a safe recommendation when people asked me about a VPN. I will have to find a replacement. Maybe ProtonVPN?
12:51 < DrArkaneX> i dunno, i saw the comment on that reddit thread from a PIA rep.. lol "We will still offer the same service and operate as a separate entity"  lol  rrrriiiggghhht
12:51 < DrArkaneX> coming from someone that wants to keep their job in a transition... lol
12:55 < DrArkaneX> https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivateInternetAccess/comments/dz2w53/our_merger_with_kape_technologies_addressing_your/
13:00 < DrArkaneX> protonvpn or mullvad
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17:40 < DrArkaneX> Damn, the addiction is real..  took me forever to click delete account on facebook and twitter but i did it
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19:57 <@brimstone> wifimask!
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