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06:32 <@opticron> good god, when they said blade runner they meant it. that thing is boxier than an 80s civic
07:05 <@Evilpig> how is that a truck without a bed?
07:23 <@opticron> it has a bed, it's just covered most of the time it looks like
07:27 <@opticron> https://www.tesla.com/xNVh4yUEc3B9/05_Desktop.jpg
07:27 < PigBot> None (at www.tesla.com)
07:28 <@opticron> https://www.tesla.com/xNVh4yUEc3B9/08_Desktop.jpg
07:28 < PigBot> None (at www.tesla.com)
08:05 < xray> Wow that is an ugly truck with zero driver visibility.
08:05 < xray> Reminds me of the episode where Home Simpson designs a car that puts the car company out of business.
08:06 <@Corydon76> Best comment ever:  "looks like a delorean and a hummer had sex"
08:08 < xray> LoL it does!
08:10 <@Corydon76> But I have to say that it's the perfect vehicle for parents whose kids need to start walking to school.
08:10 <@Corydon76> They'll volunteer!  And they'll never ask to borrow the car!
08:18 < xray> You make good points.
08:19 <@Corydon76> And save on insurance for having a vehicle no thief in his right mind would be caught dead driving.
08:20 <@Corydon76> Such great arguments, don't you think?  Elon Musk should hire me to be on his marketing team.
08:26 < aestetix> wait is that a real car
08:26 < aestetix> that has to be a joke
08:28 < aestetix> that is so ugly
08:30 <@Corydon76> I thought it had to just be an artist's rendering, but it's actually built and tested.
08:30 <@Corydon76> They're taking preorders for 2021 production.
08:31 <@Corydon76> Though if they don't get many orders, I wouldn't put it past Musk to cancel or modify the design
08:31 < aestetix> 1998 called, they want their polygons back
08:32 <@Corydon76> I won't preorder one, but when it hits GA, I might actually consider getting it.
08:33 <@Corydon76> Keep in mind that I bought a New Beetle when they were consistently getting heaps of the same criticism
08:35 < aestetix> Elon Musk absolutely sucks at being a presenter
08:46 < aestetix> hmm the glass on the door of the truck is actually a bad thing
08:46 < aestetix> since the glass shattering is a safety feature
09:08 <@oddball> It looks like it was designed by computer in the late 80's/early 90's before they could render curves
09:18 <@Corydon76> I would be interested see its performance in a wind tunnel
09:21 <@opticron> yeah, that was my first thought after seeing all the angles
09:25 <@Corydon76> Actually, if you think about it, it's a RWD with towing capacity.  What's the biggest danger in such a design?  Front end lift.  What's the design do?  Put a ton of air pressure down on the front end.
09:27 <@Corydon76> If the front end lifts, it loses steerability.  It needs the air pressure on the front end to keep the whole platform stable.
10:00 <@oddball> I mean, that was actually the reason that the F-117 was the goofy angular thing that it ended up being.
10:34 <@Corydon76> oddball: I thought the intent of those flat surfaces was to make it difficult to receive bounced radar signals off of it.
10:35 <@Corydon76> With a broad signal against a curved surface, the generating radar station will get back *some* of the bounced signals.  With a flat surface, it has to catch the aircraft when it's at a specific location, or the bounced waves will travel to another location entirely.
10:36 <@Corydon76> And that's even with the engineered materials that are designed to absorb some of the waves.
10:36 <@Corydon76> Or rather, the energy from those waves.
10:37 <@Corydon76> Basically, even if you were hitting the same spot continously in the sky, and the F-117 flies through that spot, what you'll get is an erroneous blip... and nothing before or after.
10:38 < dasunt> So it's for speeding?
10:39 <@Corydon76> But those same flat surfaces also make the aircraft really difficult to pilot, which is why you need the computer to help pilot.
10:40 <@oddball> It is, but you can get the same results with a less fugly angular design.  Unfortunately, at the time, they didn't have computers powerful enough to run the calculations for something more complicated.
10:41 <@oddball> The B-2, and I believe the F-22, are better at reducing their radar signature, and a lot of that is due to the design, but the computers at the time of the F-117's design weren't powerful enough to crunch those numbers.
10:54 <@Corydon76> dasunt: my guess is that the vehicle isn't nearly as flat as it looks.  I suspect the lack of curves has more to do with manufacturing.  The flatter the surface, the less stretching of metal that has to be done.
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14:06 < xray> House committee approves landmark bill legalizing marijuana at the federal level
14:06 < xray> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/house-committee-approves-bill-decriminalizing-marijuana-on-the-federal-level.html
14:06 < PigBot> House panel approves bill legalizing marijuana at the federal level (at www.cnbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/whe8ezf
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