--- Log opened Wed Oct 30 00:00:29 2019 05:40 <@Mirage> nice.. "Mirage - You're Invited to the Warcraft III: Reforged Beta" 05:42 -!- Imgur[m] [nebimgurma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qdhltmxldvpffady] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:04 -!- Imgur[m] [nebimgurma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-diefxvzejaurfosy] has joined #se2600 06:07 -!- Imgur[m] is now known as M_neb_imgur[m] 06:09 -!- M_neb_imgur[m] is now known as Imgur[m] 07:04 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:07 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:26 <@Evilpig> well that's nice 07:41 -!- dc0de [~jim@198.46.153.211] has joined #se2600 07:41 < dc0de> good mernin 2600 07:42 <@Corydon76> Morning, dc0de 07:42 < dc0de> What's shakin Corydon76 07:43 <@Corydon76> Starting to decide that there's a limit to how much caffeine I can imbibe 07:43 < dc0de> there is... the shakes suck. 07:43 <@Corydon76> The newest entries to the zero-calorie energy drink market have 300mg per can. 07:44 <@Corydon76> About twice as much oz-for-oz as Red Bull or Monster 07:46 <@Corydon76> They're a bit much. Rather than having a can by my workstation that I can sip and replace all day, with the new ones, I have to keep one plus a non-caffeinated drink at my workstation, so I can limit the caffeine intake 07:47 < dc0de> yikes 07:47 < dc0de> I quit caffiene for several months, and started over... 07:47 <@Corydon76> I'm currently trying to see if I can find a lower cost alternative to Monster. I like the diversity of tastes; if I have to drink the same flavor continuously, I tend to get tired of it. 07:48 < dc0de> Corydon76: I drink coffee, black. 07:49 < dc0de> about 18-28oz per day... and almost never past 12 noon. 07:49 <@Dolemite> They've remodeled our offices to turn it into cubeland - but it's not quite complete, yet... so our kitchen/break area is still out of commission, meaning no water bottle filler station. I've been drinking Diet Dr. Pepper instead of water, lately... hoping it won't be a rough transition back to water when they finish ocnstruction 07:49 <@Corydon76> There's something in coffee that vigorously disagrees with my digestive system 07:49 < aestetix> dc0de: I have also limited caffeine 07:49 < dc0de> Dolemite: please tell me it's not the low walled cube farm shit from the west coast. 07:49 < aestetix> usually to one coffee in the morning and a coke at lunch 07:49 < aestetix> and none after like 3pm 07:49 <@Dolemite> dc0de: It's the low walled cube farm shit. Today they're assembling glass walled crying booths. 07:49 < aestetix> it's scary how many health issues went away after that 07:50 <@Corydon76> dc0de: I can still toss back a can of Red Bull, go to bed, and have a restful sleep. 07:50 < dc0de> Corydon76: have you tried green tea? Caffiene in green tea lasts longer, as it is a longer chain, and covers 3 receptors to 1 in your brain. 07:50 < aestetix> Corydon76: I can't do that anymore 07:50 < dc0de> Corydon76: I used to do that... when I was on the "scene"... but it takes it toll... 07:50 < dc0de> at least on me. 07:50 <@Corydon76> Yes, I use green tea during the winter months, along with black tea, for a nice hot caffeinated beverage 07:51 <@Corydon76> triple tea bags in a single Yeti 07:51 < dc0de> yikes... 07:51 < dc0de> if I drink too much caffiene, I throw up. 07:51 < dc0de> violently. 07:51 < dc0de> it's not pretty. 07:51 <@Corydon76> caffeine, l-theanine, and mint 07:52 < aestetix> dc0de: do you mean like partying until 4am, waking up at 7am, and using red bull to stay alert during the morning talks at the con? 07:52 < dc0de> aestetix: all while drinking vodka in place of water. 07:52 < dc0de> yes. 07:53 <@Corydon76> I figure I'll spend the majority of my life, racking up an impressive retirement account, then just before I'm fixing to retire, my heart will explode from all the caffeine, and my heirs will get a nice fat nest egg. 07:53 < dc0de> Corydon76: am I in your will? Can I be? What's it gonna take? 07:53 <@Dolemite> Uncle Tiggles! 07:53 < aestetix> thankfully I never got into uppers 07:54 < aestetix> because speed and cocaine are like caffeine but way way harder to kick 07:54 <@Corydon76> Either that, or I'll live longer than my grandfather, live completely off the interest on my nest egg, and my heirs will still get a nice fat nest egg. 07:54 <@Corydon76> 92, if you're wondering. Died of a massive stroke. 07:55 < aestetix> man 07:55 < aestetix> reminds me of a friend 07:55 < aestetix> she was a very early employee at a company that went IPO 07:56 < aestetix> so she got super rich, and suddenly everyone was her friend 07:56 < aestetix> ...... and she was kind of stupid with money, and forgot to file taxes for a couple years 07:56 < aestetix> turns out that comes back to haunt you 07:57 <@Corydon76> Yeah, it's best to completely understand your own tax filings, even if it's very complicated 07:57 < dc0de> yes, taxes come back to haunt you... Ask the guy going thru his third divorce... 07:57 < aestetix> Had she asked me..... the first thing she should have done when her company went public was to go to a tax attorney 07:58 < aestetix> and by early employee I mean one of the first ten 07:58 < aestetix> dc0de: fourth time's a charm? 07:58 < dc0de> aestetix: nope. 07:59 < dc0de> 3 failures is enough for me. 07:59 < dc0de> I know when I am not for an institution. 07:59 < aestetix> any juicy stories? 07:59 < dc0de> juicy? like when you put a ring on her finger and she then loses her mind and wants to only sit on the couch and make babies and eat bon-bons? 08:00 <@Dolemite> Is that the same one that was wrapped up in MLM schemes? 08:00 < dc0de> or, like, when they say that they love you, flaws and all, then start telling you that your flaws are insane, and that you're not mentally stable. 08:00 < dc0de> Dolemite: no, that was the one in Georgia. 08:00 < aestetix> what is MLM 08:00 <@Dolemite> Multi-Level-Marketing 08:00 <@Dolemite> Pyramid schemes 08:00 < dc0de> MLM girl told me that I was insane... and had me believing it. 08:00 < aestetix> is that like the cutco knives crap? 08:01 < dc0de> look up Arbonne.com 08:01 < aestetix> dc0de: maybe the fourth time can be a guy 08:01 < aestetix> if you're loooking for sanity ;) 08:01 <@Dolemite> I know some folks that make some good money selling that stuff, but it's pretty rare 08:01 <@Corydon76> aestetix: guys aren't any better than women, let me tell you. 08:01 < dc0de> aestetix: nope, not really into that drama either. 08:02 < dc0de> Dolemite: yes, "pretty rare" == .0001% 08:02 <@Corydon76> I've been through a divorce, as well 08:02 < dc0de> Sorry to hear that Corydon76 08:02 < dc0de> Truly ((((HUGS)))) 08:02 < dc0de> I know those feels. 08:03 <@Corydon76> Not that bad. I could've stayed in separate bedrooms and had separate sex lives, and stayed married. 08:03 <@Dolemite> Well you do still live with him, right? 08:03 <@Corydon76> But he wanted to file Chapter 7 and wipe out his debts, and he couldn't do that while married to me. 08:03 < aestetix> At least a guy can't lie about bring pregnant 08:04 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I dunno. You've seen my belly. 08:04 < aestetix> haha 08:04 <@Dolemite> By the way, it's not yours. 08:04 <@Corydon76> He was halfway through a Chapter 13, but he gave up on it. 08:04 < aestetix> Dolemite: oh I'm sure it's all skydog 08:04 <@Corydon76> aestetix: some guys. I'm talking to a transguy right now, who could technically get pregnant. 08:05 <@Dolemite> No, as anybody who spent more than 10 minutes around him would know, he prefers to do it in the butt. 08:05 < aestetix> Corydon76: so wait a second.... did you just get a divorce so he could file bankrupcy? 08:05 <@Corydon76> aestetix: Yes. Cost me $1500, too 08:05 <@Dolemite> aestetix: That's kind of like the story about the couple that got divorced so they would both qualify for healthcare assistance 08:05 < aestetix> that's one of the best outcome divorce stories I've ever heard 08:06 <@Corydon76> If he ever wants to get remarried, he's going to give me that $1500, first. 08:06 <@Dolemite> And that booty 08:06 <@Corydon76> I don't think it's likely, at least not in the near future 08:07 <@Corydon76> aestetix: Yeah, and if he realized what he could have wrung out of me with a divorce, he could have made out like hotcakes 08:07 < aestetix> Corydon76: you're rich? 08:07 <@Corydon76> Instead, he got alimony that I used to write down my taxes. 08:07 < dc0de> At least he didn't dissapear when you were flying back home, and leave your son at someone elses house, on the 1st anniversary of his mother's death. 08:08 <@Corydon76> aestetix: he was technically entitled to half of my increase in wages during the time we were married. 08:08 < dc0de> Of course, #3 said, "I didn't want to do this..." yet, did it??? How the hun? 08:08 < dc0de> huh? 08:08 < dc0de> whatever, she's back in fruit loop california... good for her. 08:08 < dc0de> funny, she got a job the first week. 08:09 < aestetix> dc0de: which city is that :p 08:09 <@Dolemite> Amazing how that happens when you no longer have someone to leech off of 08:09 < dc0de> couldn't get one here sub-teaching, but got one in Oceanside CA, the first week? Huh. 08:09 < dc0de> Dolemite: Exactly. 08:09 < dc0de> I now clear 2k a month in my checking account after all bills... 08:09 < dc0de> it's fucking amazing. 08:09 < dc0de> super leech. 08:10 <@Corydon76> I'm officially divorced, and he's still leeching off me, as is his live-in boyfriend 08:10 < dc0de> Does anyone here know any automation frameworks? Which one(s) should I learn? 08:10 < aestetix> what kind of automation 08:10 <@Evilpig> ^ 08:10 <@Corydon76> dc0de: whichever one your company says they'll support 08:11 <@Dolemite> Ansible, Jenkins, and Kubernetes are all the new hotness 08:11 < aestetix> and gitlab 08:11 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but their AutoDevOps is janked 08:11 < dc0de> I am looking for a framework that will work in windows/mac/linux/cloud/virtualization/qemu/kvm/vware 08:11 < dc0de> vmware 08:11 <@Evilpig> gitlab isn't automation 08:12 <@Evilpig> it's just a git repository/ui/frontend 08:12 < aestetix> Evilpig: neither is jenkins 08:12 < aestetix> but gitlab does unit testing with runners 08:12 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: They are trying to open up a big umbrella, and they do have some automation, now 08:12 <@Evilpig> we have it, I have runners in place, but it's still just git 08:12 < aestetix> yeah, gitlab is basically trying to give atlassian a run for their money 08:12 <@Evilpig> dc0de: we're currently retooling from cfengine to ansible and it's not bad 08:13 <@Evilpig> it has some quirks 08:13 <@Evilpig> it has lots of quirks 08:13 <@Dolemite> Their AutoDevOps will manage deployments into Kubernetes, but they fucked up and require that your service account have ClusterAdmin privs. 08:13 < dc0de> hrm... 08:14 <@Corydon76> Heh, someone at Facebook just pressed the wrong button 08:15 < dc0de> ahh, Terraform... that's what I was looking for... 08:15 < dc0de> anyone here use Terraform? 08:22 <@Dolemite> Terraform is on the downslope compared to Ansible 08:22 < dc0de> So ansible has all the same providers? 08:23 <@Dolemite> Evilpig should be able to answer that, but from what I understand, yes. 08:23 < dc0de> Or are you saying that because you work at RH? 08:23 < dc0de> :P 08:23 <@Dolemite> LOL, RH can suck it 08:24 < dc0de> just making sure!!! LOL 08:24 <@Dolemite> IBM/RedHat 800 lb. Gorilla is trying to make everybody lubbers the Ansible 08:24 <@Dolemite> Which is basically just Puppet in a mask 08:24 <@Evilpig> I don't work at RH, sdodson does though 08:25 <@Evilpig> but we do use alot of RH software 08:25 < dc0de> which is way too much for the things I want to do... my OS's are already configured, I need to manage, move, swap, and power on and off my systems... not change every minor detail... 08:25 < dc0de> I need deployment options over client settings. 08:25 <@Evilpig> we use vcommander for our deployment stuff 08:26 <@Evilpig> then ansible for the configuration after the fact 08:26 < dc0de> never heard of vcommander. 08:26 <@Dolemite> Well if you're going to truly run a lab at home, you want to be able to easily blow away and rebuild an environment from scratch. That's where an Ansible would be very handy. 08:26 < dc0de> Dolemite: good to know... I'm looking at it right now. 08:26 <@Mirage> Ansible is better for 1-time install/configure, puppet or any other real configuration management framework is better for continual enforcement 08:27 < dc0de> vcommander == embotics.com? 08:27 <@Evilpig> agreed 08:27 <@Evilpig> yes that's it 08:27 < dc0de> ty Evilpig... looking 08:27 <@Evilpig> Mirage: we using ansible tower to run our ansible playbooks once an hour so it mimics cfengine/puppet/etc 08:28 <@Mirage> One of our customers kept trying to use puppet as a 1-time post-provision configuration tool and kept getting all bent out of shape when it would continue enforcing things later on when the system owner or an admin tried to change something that was managed 08:29 <@Mirage> Evilpig: yeah, you could do the same thing with any home-grown script repo and a bit of perl or bash too 08:29 <@Evilpig> the one nice thing we've got with tower is reporting. it logs all changes to splunk, then we have a report that goes out every 4 hours listing all the changes that it touched 08:32 < dc0de> Hey Mirage, what's shakin? 08:32 < dc0de> who woke you up? 08:33 < aestetix> dc0de: where do you live now 08:34 <@Mirage> I lurk...every so often I feel the urge to chime in just so ppl realize I'm here lurking 08:34 < dc0de> In the great fucking white north. 08:34 < aestetix> which north 08:34 < dc0de> aestetix: 06357. 08:34 < dc0de> Niantic, CT 08:34 <@Dolemite> dc0de: The sex is that good? 08:34 < dc0de> It's where I grew up, and my 2nd wife ran back here after our separation with my youngest son. 08:35 < dc0de> When she died last year, I chose to move here to keep the trauma at a minimum. 08:35 <@Dolemite> That's because you're one of the World's Okayest Dads 08:35 < dc0de> I work from home, and have a great job, so it's quite nice to live in the middle of "No where" with fast internet. 08:36 < dc0de> I'm looking for 10-20 acres with a river/stream and a mill house on it. 08:36 < dc0de> somewhere that it doesn't snow. 08:36 < dc0de> so if y'all know of any places... let me know... If it has a lake too, all the better... 08:36 < dc0de> Or a dam... 08:36 < aestetix> there are places like that outside berlin 08:36 < aestetix> but you should proably be able to speak german 08:36 < dc0de> and wheres' my fuckin ops? 08:37 <@Evilpig> are you authenticated? 08:37 * dc0de hears, "That's the dc0de we remember" 08:37 < dc0de> I am.. 08:37 <@Evilpig> let me see if I can remember how to flag you. heh 08:38 < dc0de> :P 08:38 < dc0de> For what it's worth, I miss all you fuckers. 08:38 < dc0de> ' 08:38 < dc0de> 'cept the ones I haven't met yet... 08:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v dc0de] by eryc 08:39 <@eryc> how about a shiny + 08:39 <@Mirage> the command i had in a txt file from waaaaay back when we first moved over here isn't working. 08:39 <+dc0de> Corydon76: You are one of the most enjoyable people to have a conversation with... and I miss having spirited disagreements. 08:39 <+dc0de> Thank you eryc... 08:39 * dc0de kisses eryc on the head. 08:40 <+dc0de> awkwardly. 08:40 -ChanServ:#se2600- Mirage (Mirage_) set flags +AOReiorstv on dc0de 08:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 08:40 <@dc0de> Whoa... so, you're all looking for kisses now? 08:40 <@dc0de> fuck. 08:40 <@Mirage> ah, it's been updated 08:40 <@dc0de> Oh, it's just Mirage looking for kisses... :) 08:42 <@Mirage> Was just trying to be helpful to pig since I knew exactly where I'd saved the *old* command. At least it gave a meaningful error when it failed that led to the right answer 08:44 <@eryc> seems like a lot of letters for auto-ops 08:45 <@Mirage> there are only 3 choices. I didn't create the "templates", I just used them 08:52 <@eryc> you guys see the new gtx super cards for $230? 08:52 <@eryc> wonder if i should get one 08:52 <@Mirage> As in NVidia? 08:53 <@eryc> https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/10/29/2131243/nvidia-launches-geforce-gtx-1660-super-for-faster-1080p-gaming 08:53 < PigBot> Nvidia Launches GeForce GTX 1660 Super For Faster 1080p Gaming - Slashdot (at hardware.slashdot.org) http://tinyurl.com/y2e85zas 08:53 <@eryc> ya 08:54 <@eryc> i want one that can do VR and that ray tracing stuff 09:01 <@Mirage> I've got a GTX 1060 6GB that i've been happy with, though I don't do the VR stuff. plays all the games I hace at ultra w/o any issues 09:03 <@Mirage> specs don't seem that different between the two 09:04 <@opticron> apparently the 1660 super is not so super and really should have been a Ti variant instead 09:04 <@opticron> while the 1650 super is particularly super compared to the normal 1650 09:05 <@opticron> eryc, don't the 16xx cards lack raytracing support? 09:06 <@eryc> i'm clueless 09:06 <@eryc> i just checked i have a GTX 780 09:07 <@eryc> i paid like $550 or so for it if i recall 09:10 <@opticron> yeah, it was a high-end card back in the day 09:11 <@eryc> it still works fine for me 09:12 <@eryc> i guess i'll keep waiting, i don't have an immediate need for anything better 09:15 <@Corydon76> dc0de: Weird, the vibe I eventually got was that I'm a stick in the mud, woefully misinformed. 09:16 <@Corydon76> Fed my anxiety, and I withdrew a lot more. 09:16 <@oddball> I'm literally having to explain to two women how to unplug cables from the back of a computer. 09:17 < aestetix> just tell them it's like pulling out 09:29 <@oddball> And now to explain how to fucking plug a cable in! 10:04 <@oddball> and finally got through that with them. 11:15 <@dc0de> Corydon76: sorry, I guess I'm hard to read? 11:17 <@eryc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE 11:17 < PigBot> New Robot Makes Soldiers Obsolete (Bosstown Dynamics) (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5mlzwg3 11:27 < xray> Corridor crew never disapoints 11:38 <@Corydon76> dc0de: not just you, in general. 13:21 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D267254117A1D1C0C9A87784DE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 13:45 <@Dolemite> Corydon76: We weren't telling you that you were a stick in the mud. We kept telling you to stop trying to put your stick in our mud. 14:02 <@Evilpig> his mud 14:02 <@Evilpig> not a case of our here 14:40 <@Corydon76> Ironically, most bottom guys clean themselves so thoroughly that "mud" is never a concern. 14:41 <@Corydon76> Not that any of you needed to know that. 14:56 <@dc0de> Thanks for the Info anyway? :/ 15:27 <@Corydon76> I wasn't going to bring it up, but since it was apparently a topic anyway... 15:35 <@eryc> hey Evilpig: whats the most data in mb/gb you send to splunk from tower in 1 day? 15:53 <@Evilpig> eryc: I haven't a clue but it's a fuckton 15:53 <@Evilpig> I know each hour we generate 400,000+ database entries which each becomes an entry in splunk 15:54 <@eryc> ok 15:55 <@eryc> i'm supposed to estimate how many gb/day 15:55 <@eryc> i can ask the redhat guy but i know the answer is going to be "it depends" 15:56 <@Corydon76> Is the idea here to estimate a data plan to minimize costs? 15:56 <@Corydon76> Might ask what the tiers are, so you can customize your estimate to the specified tiers 15:57 <@eryc> well the idea is to compare to the licensed splunk storage 15:58 <@Corydon76> To see if they can drop to the next lowest tier, or need to upgrade the tier? 15:59 <@eryc> i don't have any idea how splunk does licensing but i'm assuming they're licensed for a certain amount of gb/day 15:59 <@eryc> so they don't want to exceed that 16:02 <@Corydon76> They apparently have multiple pricing models. If you're using Predictive Pricing, it starts at 125GB/day 16:03 <@Corydon76> So I guess the question for you RedHat guy is whether he expects that you'll exceed 125GB a day. 16:04 <@Corydon76> But yeah, I'd agree that knowing where their tiers break would be fantastic. 16:09 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@p200300D26725416C349E4909B767E683.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 16:12 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D267254117A1D1C0C9A87784DE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:57 <@dc0de> splunk license... buy the enterprise, write the check for $1Million. 16:58 <@dc0de> splunk makes it's money nickle and diming your message volume... just buy the whole thing... or switch to ELK as most major fortune 50 companies have... after purchasing the enterprise license for $Millions... Splunk can't scale like ELK can. 17:00 <@dc0de> i used to be a HUGE splunk fan... but seeing it fall over at Intuit and other companies I've worked for, it's just not ready... I've watched ELK stacks ingest live 1:1 Netflow data from Border Routers at Sony/Gaikai for the PSNow gaming network... it's amazing. 17:03 <@eryc> i'm a huge grafana/kibana fan 17:03 <@eryc> i don't really care about this 17:03 <@eryc> but i'll mention it 17:04 <@eryc> i have plenty to worry about besides where tower logs go 17:04 <@eryc> i don't care how much it costs 17:13 -!- rpifan_ is now known as rpifan 17:17 -!- Mirage [mirage@raw.thehippo.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:19 -!- Mirage [mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 17:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 18:33 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26725416C349E4909B767E683.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:19 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @eryc 19:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @eryc --- Log closed Thu Oct 31 00:00:31 2019