--- Log opened Tue Oct 22 00:00:17 2019 03:34 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrytedmkeuioyxcb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:24 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:34 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:38 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26701BD7EC3F422351784C9D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 07:00 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@p200300D26717ED6652058C933F6178EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 07:01 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26701BD7EC3F422351784C9D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:41 <@eryc> That's my line 07:42 * eryc hugs aestetix 08:07 -!- ezelkow1 [ezelkow1ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dszrtatnjgzdiifn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07 -!- Imgur[m] [nebimgurma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-sctanmbjyfsgcyvm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:26 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 08:57 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@p200300D26717ED6652058C933F6178EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26717ED6652058C933F6178EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 12:01 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzknfdmifnqiowxa] has joined #se2600 12:12 <@Evilpig> hey Dagmar... had a code brown moment earlier. 12:12 <@Evilpig> https://photos.app.goo.gl/YK1he6TLRPcMasvg9 12:12 < PigBot> Shared album - Wilbur Longwisch - Google Photos (at photos.app.goo.gl) http://tinyurl.com/yxkhhlga 12:12 <@Evilpig> that is _NOT_ a reflection on the bottom of that chassis of the power cable 12:13 <@eryc> lol 12:13 <@Evilpig> also that _NOT_ reflection was _NOT_ present when we arrived. which was the trigger of the code brown 12:13 <@eryc> how does that even happen 12:13 <@Evilpig> You see... when a brother loves a sister.... 12:14 <@eryc> the cable was smoldering? 12:14 <@eryc> heh 12:15 <@Evilpig> we went down there to look at that machine because the power supply kept flapping between failed and good 12:16 <@Evilpig> before they would rma the power supply they wanted us to check cables, reseat the power supply, etc. We got down there realized what was going on, touched the cable, and BAM! I yelped 12:17 <@eryc> it was melty hot? 12:17 <@Evilpig> couldn't tell you because at that point I didn't even want to touch the rack to close the door. 12:17 <@Evilpig> I was 100% hands off because i'm not retarded 12:17 <@eryc> ah its AC you'll be fine! 12:17 <@Evilpig> it's just 220. it'll only tickle 12:18 <@Dolemite> 208 12:21 < xray> Bad doesn't begin to describe that. 12:22 <@Dolemite> That would be an immediate stop work event 12:23 <@Dolemite> Nobody allowed within a 10 foot radius without proper PPE and training/qualification 12:25 < xray> PPE? 12:25 <@Dolemite> Personal Protective Equipment 12:25 < xray> never mind 12:26 < xray> I realized what it was right after I hit send, 12:26 <@Dolemite> In this case, cotton clothing, leather gloves, and eye protection, at a minimum. 12:26 < xray> rubber mat and rubber glove inserts for the leather gloves. That is what we used in the Navy, 12:27 <@Dolemite> The need for that is usually based on the total potential energy 12:27 < xray> There was one RADAR I worked on that had 60KV DC. 12:28 <@Dolemite> That cord is likely backed up to a 30A breaker, at 208V single phase you don't need it 12:28 <@Dolemite> Yeah, DC will kill you at a much lower voltage 12:28 <@Dolemite> Especially since those applications tend to have high amperage 12:29 < xray> I've also had to work on 480VAC panels. 12:29 < xray> That was civilian though 13:43 <@Mirage> with all the batshit crazy "news" coming out lately (https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1194086/Asteroid-news-large-space-rocks-flying-Earth-NASA-asteroid-tracker-nasa-news https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1193947/aliens-alien-news-space-discovery-fermi-paradox-2019-universe-astronomy ), i thnk I might need to watch some Ancient Aliens to regain some sanity. 13:43 < PigBot> Asteroid alert: Two large space rocks are flying towards Earth tomorrow - Will they hit? | Science | News | Express.co.uk (at www.express.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/y46ssp9y 13:43 < PigBot> Aliens have already invaded earth on self-replicating space-ships, scientist claims | Science | News | Express.co.uk (at www.express.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/y5gu9bux 13:44 <@Mirage> News flash...there's shit in space that will eventually collide with something else. No shit! 13:44 <@eryc> thats why we have jupiter 13:45 <@Mirage> What can we do about it? Not a fucking thing..but you can watch Armageddon if it makes you feel any better. 13:49 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxazjrjiyxyhbias] has joined #se2600 13:56 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26717ED6652058C933F6178EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p54AC5C9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 14:24 -!- opticron [~opticron@136.53.69.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:28 -!- opticron [~opticron@136.53.69.43] has joined #se2600 14:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 15:17 <@Mirage> I just had a "fun" exchage with the lab admin for uor test lab. 15:38 <@Mirage> Admin: Did you add all the hosts entries I provided for being able to resolve everything? 15:39 <@Mirage> Me: Of course 15:39 <@Mirage> Admin: Did you validate you can ping everything? 15:39 <@Mirage> Me: Why? 15:39 <@Mirage> Admin: what gateway are you using? 15:39 <@Mirage> Me: What does it matter? 15:40 <@Mirage> Admin: You need to ping everything to make sure your gateway is correct. 15:40 <@Mirage> Me: Everything in the lab is on the same subnet. 15:40 <@Mirage> Admin: Did you use .1 or .5 for the gateway? 15:41 <@Mirage> Me: .1, but what does that matter...the default gateway isn't checked on a link-local connection. 15:41 <@Mirage> Admin: Huh? Oh, right. 15:50 < xray> If your test network isn't connected to anything external, what would you even need a gateway for? 15:56 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p54AC5C9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26717ED6652058C933F6178EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #se2600 16:03 <@Mirage> They're bright idea to isolate the lab is to set the GW to .5, which is not a router instead of .1, which is. 16:04 <@Mirage> So far as I know it's not even a firewall or load balancer either. So I have no clue what it's supposed to do other than nothing. 17:13 -!- ezelkow1 [ezelkow1ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-eobkugfdvuceuqvf] has joined #se2600 17:15 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzknfdmifnqiowxa] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:20 <@Dagmar> Wow 17:20 <@Dagmar> That's just sad 17:21 <@Dagmar> akuhcap: Or just bite the bullet and buy some Dell SFF from someone on Craigslist and shove a $20 ac card into it 17:28 -!- ezelkow1 [ezelkow1ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-eobkugfdvuceuqvf] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:37 -!- ezelkow1 [ezelkow1ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ntllzyqeoyudloom] has joined #se2600 17:55 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p200300D26717ED6652058C933F6178EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:55 -!- Imgur[m] [nebimgurma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qdhltmxldvpffady] has joined #se2600 17:59 <@Catonic> security through lack of a gateway. 17:59 <@Catonic> Evilpig: that's a recipe for an outage if ever I saw one. "Well, someone wasn't careful with the server, and now we need to power cycle a whole cabinet." 18:00 <@Catonic> raised floor data centers need drains and liquidtight flex on the electrical cables. 18:09 <@Catonic> so realtalk: is there is a good case and reason in this day and age for using L2TP or PPTP? 18:22 <@Evilpig> other than simplicity to set up 18:22 <@Evilpig> ? 18:30 <@Dagmar> Too lazy to use ssh's built-in SOCKS? 18:35 <@Catonic> besides a routing protocol that needs L2 like OSPF or ISIS. 18:42 <@Evilpig> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005445768-UniFi-USG-Configuring-L2TP-Remote-Access-VPN 18:42 < PigBot> UniFi - USG: Configuring L2TP Remote Access VPN – Ubiquiti Networks Support and Help Center (at help.ubnt.com) http://tinyurl.com/yxus9p27 18:44 <@Evilpig> the answer for why l2tp, it's built into windows and osx so low barrier to entry 19:04 <@Dagmar> ...and by making it available in Windows it gives Windows 10 Home users the ability to run OSPF 19:04 <@Dagmar> Because we _all_ want that to happen 19:05 <@Dagmar> Something less vague than "an invisible man said my device was unclaimed" 19:05 <@Dagmar> @#$ 20:50 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxazjrjiyxyhbias] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Wed Oct 23 00:00:19 2019