--- Log opened Thu Sep 19 00:00:27 2019 00:08 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Sep 19 03:53:25 2019 --- Log opened Thu Sep 19 03:59:08 2019 03:59 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@76.237.111.250] has joined #se2600 03:59 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 26 nicks [11 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 03:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 03:59 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 7 secs --- Log closed Thu Sep 19 04:06:08 2019 --- Log opened Thu Sep 19 04:06:14 2019 04:06 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@76.237.111.250] has joined #se2600 04:06 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 26 nicks [11 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 04:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 04:06 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 9 secs 05:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow404] by ChanServ 06:03 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:04 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h69-131-146-18.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Quit: brb - patch reboot] 06:06 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-247-146-235.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 06:06 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-247-146-235.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:06 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 06:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 06:45 * aestetix hugs Dol 06:45 < aestetix> awww 06:57 <@Shadow404> gahh, going back to work after 2 weeks off is gonna suxor, but hey, new job 07:11 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h69-131-146-18.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 07:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 07:31 < aestetix> there he is 07:31 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:37 <@Shadow404> i guess the recent sensitivity training has put an end to the bitches and hoes comment? 07:44 <@Dolemite> I already did that 07:45 <@Dolemite> before I did my patch reboot 07:45 <@Dolemite> But for a be0tch like you, I'll repeat it 07:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, you inattentive be0tches and h0ez! 07:48 <@Shadow404> noice 08:14 <@Dolemite> man, I love cert-manager 08:14 <@Dolemite> Otherwise, updating SSL certs for what is currently ~ 300 web sites would be a nightmare 08:15 <@Dolemite> If only I could get the same automation out of my other certs 08:17 <@Dolemite> I've got to start reading up on swapping out openLDAP TLS certs in the next week or so... 08:18 -!- Corydon76 [~quassel@96.69.98.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:25 -!- Corydon76 [~quassel@96.69.98.139] has joined #se2600 08:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76] by ChanServ 10:10 < aestetix> https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/d6etv5/hi_im_beto_orourke_a_candidate_for_president/ 10:13 < aestetix> judging by the questions, he's gonna have a rough time 10:14 < xray> Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up. 10:14 < xray> If he really want's to save lives he should confiscate everyone's cars. 10:15 < aestetix> And kitchen knives 10:16 < aestetix> unsurprisingly, he's getting a lot of questions about confiscation of guns 10:26 <@opticron> I wonder why he thought this was a good way to interact with the public 10:29 < xray> Based on the things he has said I would say he is not thinking. 10:36 < aestetix> I wonder what happens when some of the more obvious blunders make the news 10:36 < aestetix> Or the debates 10:37 < aestetix> his confiscation comment is currently at negative 614 points 10:38 < aestetix> I wonder if this is gonna be like the Morgan Freeman AMA 10:38 <@Corydon76> It was always a desperation move, intending to attract the liberal wackos, hoping they'd pump money into his campaign. I suspect he'll drop out within a few weeks. 10:38 <@Corydon76> Or, excuse me, "suspend his campaign", as the legal terminology goes. 10:39 < aestetix> Some of the comments make a great point 10:39 < aestetix> He could focus on the senate again 10:39 <@Corydon76> Though he'll be remembered for years as the guy who threw the confiscation albatross around the Democrats' necks. 10:39 < aestetix> winning a blue senate seat in texas WOULD raise eyebrows 10:40 <@Corydon76> I doubt that'll happen at this point. That albatross weighs heavy nationally, and campaign funders don't want a guy like that in the Senate. 10:40 <@Corydon76> To win, anywhere, you HAVE to appeal to both one side AND the middle. He went for the left and ditched the middle. 10:41 < aestetix> yep 10:41 <@Corydon76> This is the thing all of my liberal friends don't understand. They are not the majority. Candidates do not win on the national stage by pandering only to one extreme. 10:42 <@Corydon76> And to be clear: NOBODY is the majority. You have to build a coalition. 10:42 < aestetix> One of the things I really admired about Obama was that he said that even if a person didn't vote for him, he had to represent them 10:44 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 10:44 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 10:44 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 10:48 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:48 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 10:48 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 10:48 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 10:49 < aestetix> I wish he were smarter. Especially since Beto may actually know what PhreakNIC is. 10:50 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:50 < aestetix> How cool would it be to have a president who was actually tech saavy 10:51 <@Dolemite> Almost as cool as having one that didn't look at his job as just another get richer scheme? 10:52 < aestetix> no comment :/ 10:57 <@Dolemite> As for the gun issue, I think we should migrate towards the Red Forman (That 70s Show) philosophy, which was, "If you're not mad enough to bare knuckles fight, you're not mad." 10:58 < aestetix> I just wish Trump would get off Twitter. 10:58 < aestetix> And stop using such awful language. 11:12 <@Corydon76> The man is senile. I'm afraid that the only thing that is going to facilitate his removal from Twitter is his death. And given my confidence in the abilities of the Secret Service, a natural death. 11:12 <@Corydon76> Not even removal from office is going to get him to stop tweeting. 11:13 <@Corydon76> Wait, I think assignment to prison might do it, but only because they prohibit use of cell phones in prison. 11:20 <@eryc> he's a big enough ass i'm sure he can smuggle one in 11:35 <@Corydon76> Yeah, but it'll never remain secret for long. 12:10 < aestetix> https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/462109-schumer-i-dont-know-of-any-other-democrat-who-agrees-with-orourke-on-gun 12:11 < aestetix> O'Rourke is finished 12:33 < oddball> Really, Mr Schumer? Shall I provide you with quotes? 12:36 < oddball> Now, a lot of them won't spell it out quite like that. They're say that they're for things like "the Australian solution," and then try to deny that that's what that meant... 12:40 -!- cordless [~sariel@161.45.160.130] has joined #se2600 12:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cordless] by ChanServ 12:41 -!- cordless_ [cordless@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wxtaadteyqhjfbjd] has joined #se2600 12:42 -!- cordless [~sariel@161.45.160.130] has quit [Client Quit] 12:42 -!- cordless_ is now known as cordless 12:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cordless] by ChanServ 12:43 -!- cordless [cordless@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wxtaadteyqhjfbjd] has quit [Client Quit] 12:43 -!- cordless [cordless@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zlvymdwkixwnfrqm] has joined #se2600 12:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cordless] by ChanServ 12:57 <@opticron> beto just stopped responding on that AMA thread 12:58 <@opticron> ah, he closed it down 13:04 <@Corydon76> oddball: Not that I'm trying to convince you, but I honestly wonder how many of the Democratic politicians are interested in nothing actually happening, while paying enough lip service to whichever extreme they're pandering to on that day to ensure they don't get primaried. 13:05 <@Corydon76> And that's probably true for the Republicans, as well, now that I think of it. 13:06 <@Corydon76> That said, there are always enough loons on either side that if they came out and said that's their intention, they'd lose their broad coalition of supporters. 13:58 < aestetix> I wish they would stop pandering to the extremes 13:59 < oddball> Oh, most of the national GOP politicians aren't actually pro-gun rights. They just play it lip service to get the votes. 13:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 14:00 <@oddball> If they were, then the Hearing Protection Act would have at least made it to the Senate floor when they had control. 14:04 <@Corydon76> aestetix: In our political system, they aren't going to stop pandering. It's the only way to amass a majority of votes. 14:06 <@Corydon76> The nation is comprised rougly of 20% each of the extreme left, leans left, moderates, leans right, and extreme right. Politicians have to amass a coalition comprising at least 3 of the 5 segments to win elections. 14:06 <@Corydon76> And they need 2 of the 5 to win primaries. 14:23 <@eryc> Colt took away your AR15s 14:28 < aestetix> Corydon76: that's not true according to the hidden tribes survey 14:29 < aestetix> https://hiddentribes.us/#americas-hidden-tribes 14:29 <@eryc> did you hear me 14:29 <@eryc> Colt discontinued the AR15 today 14:30 <@eryc> why aren't you all crying 14:32 <@Corydon76> That's not what Colt said. They basically said that there's a glut on the market, so they're suspending production, until the excess inventory is sold. 14:32 <@Corydon76> https://www.kmbc.com/article/emma-strong-stitch/29112144 14:45 <@oddball> eryc: Because Colt hasn't given a shit about the civvy market in decades and has been constantly in and out of bankrupcy. 14:46 <@oddball> Colt used to be able to sell their ARs at a premium because 1. there weren't a whole lot of other folks making ARs, and 2. theirs said "Colt" on the side. 14:46 <@oddball> Now everyone and their mother makes ARs, and the current buyer doesn't give a shit about the Colt name. 14:47 <@oddball> Oh, and you can currently buy a low end AR for $400 without looking real hard. 14:58 <@Corydon76> oddball: is that the whole kit or just the lower? 14:58 <@Corydon76> Because $400 is what I paid for my Beretta. 15:09 <@oddball> whole kit 15:09 <@oddball> you can get a stripped lower for $69 15:10 <@oddball> Last gun show I was at, there was a guy with a table of 'em. 15:10 <@oddball> sorry... stripped AR lowers can be had for $50. 15:10 <@oddball> https://gun.deals/product/psa-no-beto-ar-15-stripped-lower-receiver-preorder-item-8-9-weeks-delivery-4999 15:12 <@oddball> hell, if you don't mind building it yourself (not hard), you can get the that lower and this kit for under $300: https://gun.deals/product/16-ar-15-premium-build-kit-23999-w-code-beto 23:25 < K`Tetch_> "building it yourself" - thats like "building a pc" by buying a kit 23:26 < K`Tetch_> let me know when you're going to machine your own barrel, I'll let you borrow my rifling file 23:26 < K`Tetch_> (actually, I can't, because i don't have any any more, but I used to) --- Log closed Fri Sep 20 00:00:29 2019